Hello everybody,

I have a good and a bad news. The good news: I just installed a beta version of MSN Messenger 6 and let me tell you that it's a great update! The bad news: apparently, Microsoft did some things on purpose to avoid Messenger Plus! to work, which theorically means that this summer, the release of MSN Messenger 6 will sign the death certificate of Messenger Plus!. I'm going to try to work on a sollution to go around the problem but I'm not very optimistic.

I'll keep you informed,
Patchou

Noooooooooooo!!! I wont use it then! I'm gonna keep 5.0 to keep msgplus! but why would they want to avoid msgplus to work? It rocks!

[spanish] Mira los conchesumadre... [/Spanish]

@ Microsoft !

Well, we know that U will figure it out...
I hope so...

that's too bad really.. I just finished encryption for logs (and Messenger 6 has logs but no encryption ...) ... aaaaanywayyyyy...

u'll find a way! (i hope!) Jvais être déçue si on a pa plus pour le 6.0!

That's a shame I hope ya find a way

i really hope itll work. is hands down the best add-on for messenger. m$ is a [censored].

lets be optimistic. remember when patchou said mp2 wouldnt work with windows xp? then a few weeks later he got it working great? lets see where this add-on is gonna take us esti

no upgrade for me to messenger 6 *taking my bows*

noo, i still  want to use Plus!..meh no upgrade for me then to MSN 6

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Originally posted by crazihouse
i really hope itll work. is hands down the best add-on for messenger. m$ is a [censored].

lets be optimistic. remember when patchou said mp2 wouldnt work with windows xp? then a few weeks later he got it working great? lets see where this add-on is gonna take us esti

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GO YOU !!!

I'll boycot Messenger 6 then!

  GO PATCHOU GO!!!!  
we will not give up without a fight

so then for wa them doin to us

i wid u wak girl that is bear shit them doin to us if patchou give up with out a fight i would be very much ashamed and and i would look at him differently.  

Patchou is strong!!! of course he wont give up! he knows that a lot of people would be disapointed. he'll will fight till the bitter end(that is the expression, right?) any ways, Patchou's a nice guy and he wont let us down (if he does, jvais être en sacrament après lui! j/k!)

speak english  for de last part please

nah! it's not nice! he understands it. but I was just joking!

k

well, it has nothing to do with "strong"... thank you for cheering me up but the problem is that I have absolutly no idea about how to bypass what they did... I'll call a friend tomorrow for advices but for now, my hopes are at 5%... that's really too bad.

well for all of your users 5% is really bad if you had said 75% now that would be good but dont give up hope we are counting on you a whole lot.  and no matter what we are backin u 100%

Keep it will work out as the LORD said where their is a will their is a way. away patchou

I think Messenger Plus! will continue to survive. Don't forget that Messenger Plus! allows users to have predefined away messages, color fonts, sound commands etc. when MSN Messenger 6.0 does not provide that. Patchou, you will always have our support

Yeah man, do it, we know you can.

Dude, your the best programer i know.. You'll do it, even if its 5% dont be negitive! Try your best, if you cant do it, don't worry..

ooooh no!!!!!! I dont believe it.. I think i may use 2 accounts, 1 on msn 5 with plus, and another on msn 6 without plus., so i can use both of it.. but thats messy.. i thought u were in touch with microsoft! yell at them please!!!!   Come on, YOU CAN DO IT. You program the best addon for msn EVER. you can DO ANYTHING

fucken microsoft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (sorry but they are really gay)

Patchou we're with you all the way

how did u get the beta?

did microsoft deliberatly stop YOU from making a compatible version

so what exactly is the problem?

Dan

what patchou is saying

is that the new MSN Messenger 6.0 coming out next month may not be compatible with MSN plus and Patchou THINKS that he cant make it compatible so we are trying to give him some confidence

yeah i know that but what is causing the problem?  how are they blocking you from making plus compatible?

Dan

Messenger 6.0 is not available yet. I saw the previews thow and the 75 new emoticons are nice and the new interface is also enjoyable. But I really really hope to have plus installed in it!!! Anyhow, just backed-up my messenger 5 and a copy of plus! still is in my mirror.
Anyhow, GO PATCHOU GO!!!! (weren't you resting? just can't leave plus! alone isn't it?)

Well, it's a simple decision for me........I have used Plus for almost 2 years and i want plus more than i need some fancy messenger client........So, if it happens to be that Plus won't work with MSN 6, then i will always stay with MSN 5.0.......

If Patchou can't find a way around the problem, then so be it.......
Programming is not as easy as it seems.......

I am a newbie to programming and it makes me appreciate even more the work Patchou has already done with Plus....

Great job Patchou

Blah @ Microsoft... they have nothing better to do than disable a great author's program to run with messenger which has had over 15 million downloads.

I know i will not be upgrading to MSN 6 if i will lose plus functionality!

Remember what it says on the main Plus! website?

4 Million users can't be wrong

Well how many of those 4 million do you think will be willing to stop using Plus!?  There are some interesting figures which should be forwarded to Microsoft.

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Originally posted by Patchou
Hello everybody,

I have a good and a bad news. The good news: I just installed a beta version of MSN Messenger 6 and let me tell you that it's a great update! The bad news: apparently, Microsoft did some things on purpose to avoid Messenger Plus! to work, which theorically means that this summer, the release of MSN Messenger 6 will sign the death certificate of Messenger Plus!. I'm going to try to work on a sollution to go around the problem but I'm not very optimistic.

I'll keep you informed,
Patchou

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I think I indeed will stick up with Windows Messenger 4.7/MSN Messenger 5...if sucking Micro$oft doesn't still let Plus! to integrate...what the hell new emoctions or game function are? Plus! is more important

So lets all use old versions till Patchou make it compatible with 6 if you seem so fidel in your posts

ohh and we can tell our opinion about Plus! to Microsoft http://messenger.msn-int.com/download/v6preview.asp

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Originally posted by stas
ohh and we can tell our opinion about Plus! to Microsoft http://messenger.msn-int.com/download/v6preview.asp

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Originally posted by Mnjul

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Originally posted by stas
ohh and we can tell our opinion about Plus! to Microsoft http://messenger.msn-int.com/download/v6preview.asp

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I don't think Micro$oft will change many things for compatibility...

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Please don't make "f**k micro$oft" posts here... I hate Microsoft bashers and excessive swearing.

That's bad news, Patchou... if you don't find a way to make it work, users will be lost.   Personally, I never planned on upgrading to Messenger 6... it just has more stuff that I don't want...

u know perhaps they got annoyed about the "hide the banner ad" option

well F**k 6 im not gonna be drawn by its so called new features, im always gonna stick with 4.6.0083 at least with 4.6 all my downloaded toys and addons work

I'll stick to plus, no msn 6 for me

stupid M$

the fetures on msn plus outweigh the shitty features of 6!

We can all opt not to upgrade... but many people will be pulled by the new features, specially the emoticons and games...

I know it's hard, Patchou, maybe you'll have to reprogram it all again, but I find more useful the features of Plus! than the MSNM6 ones, like the hide banner, boss protection, mIRC commands, and I'm looking forward on your new log encryption

It seems that I won't upgrade to MSNM6 either until you find a way to adapt Plus! to it

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the fetures on msn plus outweigh the shitty features of 6!

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Originally posted by Patchou
my hopes are at 5%... that's really too bad.

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ppl will get bored with the new games, i only use msn to chat i harldy use the plugins like netmeeting.. ppl will get bored with those features,

but with msgplus it has features that lasts. features that are usefull, i mean come on if you want to see someone mug you look on their profile!! honnestly with msn6's new fetaures most of them have at best novelty value. and not really have much function like the fetures in msgplus

Well some of the features i might like to be honest they wouldn't bring out a new version if they don't have any new features that come in handy!

But i would still like the usage of plus because it also adds a lot of nice features.
But doesn't microsoft see that there a lot of users of plus???
i thought they would be smarter than that

But really patchou keep up the good work and please try to make it compatible

maybe im just being optomistic, but

a) since its a preview version, maybe the API isnt fully complete
b) is there no API so no plugins work or is it a different API?

mp2 and patchou is been through worst situations like compatibility on windows xp and msn/window messenger 5, bug problems and crashes, long hours of re-writing the mp2 code and all those hard work why would patchou give up? if he does give man thats just sucks but man to patchou as they say in "Water Boy"

YOU CAN DO IT!

like you ppl say thats there somehow a loop hole that will make mp2 compatible with the new msn/window messenger 6 somehow we will find it or yeah!!!

p.s. since a lot of people uses plus why not hire patchou to the microsoft team!! so he get a good job!! too

hey,  No offence or nothing.  But i really don't see what is so fantsatic about Msgplus.  all the features included in it are already avaliable in separate programs that were put out ages ago.  and besides half of the features are not up to date. ahh well. im goin with MSN Messenger 6 cuz personailly i don't think msgplus is all that great.l maybe u should make some major improvments in it and then release a newer version.  like..........talky messenger. try to include programmin where u can speak into a mic and it will automatically write it down for u. try something new dudes. then it will catch my eye. but as for now. its not that great in my prospective.

                                                              xXx_Virus_xXx

You'll find a solution...
Kick Microsoft's butt!

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all the features included in it are already avaliable in separate programs that were put out ages ago

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hey,  No offence or nothing.  But i really don't see what is so fantsatic about Msgplus.  all the features included in it are already avaliable in separate programs that were put out ages ago.  and besides half of the features are not up to date. ahh well. im goin with MSN Messenger 6 cuz personailly i don't think msgplus is all that great.l maybe u should make some major improvments in it and then release a newer version.  like..........talky messenger. try to include programmin where u can speak into a mic and it will automatically write it down for u. try something new dudes. then it will catch my eye. but as for now. its not that great in my prospective.

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hey,  No offence or nothing.  But i really don't see what is so fantsatic about Msgplus.  all the features included in it are already avaliable in separate programs that were put out ages ago.  and besides half of the features are not up to date. ahh well. im goin with MSN Messenger 6 cuz personailly i don't think msgplus is all that great.l maybe u should make some major improvments in it and then release a newer version.  like..........talky messenger. try to include programmin where u can speak into a mic and it will automatically write it down for u. try something new dudes. then it will catch my eye. but as for now. its not that great in my prospective.

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I would like to thank patchou for all his hard work, an amazing end product that we all love to bits, but sadly i will be gettin msn6, seems microsoft have finally listened to peoples needs, something patchou did a long time ago.

y hav they done it, i mean, its sch a gr8 add on, its unbelievable th@ they hav done it. microsoft dont kno a gd program wen it hits them wher it hurts. but remember, thers a way around everything. unfortunately i can c this meaning complete recoding of plus, or breaking the rule of modyfiying the exe. gd luck nehow

Vas-y vas-y, Patchou! (Hope I got that right! )

How come Microsoft doesn't want Plus any more? They were all for it a few months ago...

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all the features included in it are already avaliable in separate programs that were put out ages ago.  and besides half of the features are not up to date.
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talky messenger. try to include programmin where u can speak into a mic and it will automatically write it down for u.

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ow god... absolutely destructing... but patchou... can't you contact programmers (by this forum) around the globe to co- operate on this problem?.. if the respective users of the Plus! could spread a word, it just might get that far... I think... I'm sure, that something can be done...

peace...

Patchou,
could you hook me up with the new msn 6.0.
please send me a pm considering this subject
PeAcE
(and break those msnPLUS! hataz!!)
PeAcE To Y'aLL

"You can do anything you set your mind to, man"

i reckon everyone on this forum with a credit card donate something to him so he has the money to work on a new plus! we are very lucky we get this addon for free.

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Taken from Krenom's Signature
Anything can be obtained through hard work, perservereance, and a large assortment of automatic weapons...

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I might be able to help..... I know I'm a newbie but with the one child window there is a way to override that window format and reset it to the orgianlly multifuction use of msn v.5 and lower. I just thought I'd tell you...




~ The evil of all that surrounds~

Whaaaaaat?

Well, um, I don't understand it, but I hope it helps Patchou...

I just realized I cant spell let me retype that last thing so maybe it makes more sense....."reset it to the orginal multifuction window used by msn v.5 and lower."  I never claimed to be good in english....

I know that maybe this is not a solution and maybe you dont want to do it but is it possible for you to give us the source code of MSG PLus or at least a section of it? maybe anyone in the forum is able to resolve the problem!!!!

Messenger Plus Team -

Keep up the good work guys, I've always completely enjoyed using Messenger Plus, it is one of my number one priorities when I use a computer, to install Plus.  If it comes to you cannot at all find a solution with the MSN6 problem, I will never again upgrade.  You all have an excellent service and I recommend it to everyone.

Thank you!

Brian Stone

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Originally posted by Patchou
that's too bad really.. I just finished encryption for logs (and Messenger 6 has logs but no encryption ...) ... aaaaanywayyyyy...

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I now understand Patchou your problem
I think your already two steps ahead of the rest of us and we thought you wouldn't have got it too work with msn messenger 5 but you stuck with it!! We all believe in you good luck Patchou

BTW virus why everyone likes msgplus is it's a very professional add on even the better msn add on's look crappy but Patchou works that little bit harder

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. it's not possible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

... we all know M$ is a bit ego and they don't like "competition". But why msn plus . It's just a very good working ADD-ON which is used by 4 MILLION PEOPLE!!!!
WHY MUST THIS HAPPEN FFS! Let's kick Billy's ass.

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Originally posted by Markus
... we all know M$ is a bit ego and they don't like "competition". But why msn plus . It's just a very good working ADD-ON which is used by 4 MILLION PEOPLE!!!!
WHY MUST THIS HAPPEN FFS! Let's kick Billy's ass.

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how does Plus! affect MSN, it doesnt make them lose any money

plus works with 6

what? no it doesnt

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plus works with 6

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Plus doesn't work with 6. ffs, have u read this thread and Patchous posts detn8r?

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Originally posted by detn8r
plus works with 6

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I agree with Gfd. Maybe there still are people @ Microsoft who are not against ... .
(BTW, maybe Microsoft didn't like the msn plus banner very much )

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maybe Microsoft didn't like the msn plus banner very much

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well mickyshit are just afaid.. when 4 was it is prime load of addons where avable for it and too meny lam3rs kept on abusing it by using scrollers, laggers and other annoynce shit, which is not fair on the rest of us. msgplus is a deicent addon and with no annoyce tools or any features that is easy to abuse for intent to annoy contatcs with.

Well, I wrote MS a rather long and disgruntled (yet polite) letter telling them how much harm they're doing by preventing Plus to work with MSN. I know, it won't make a diff, but it got it off my chest, and there's the slim-to-none chance that they might take notice.

On another note, would there be any way to include MSN 6 features into Plus? Like the new emoticons (even if they're not animated), buddy picture, etc... Kind of like using Plus to bring MSN 5 up to speed with MSN 6. Just an idea.

and Patchou, remember... YOU are The One...

"your feedback is always welcome at microsoft"

BUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLLSHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!

lol... i have wrote a letter to them telling that MSN 6 sucks without Plus! and that i deleted it and installed 5.0 again, and that all of these 4 million people will do the same. But... it did not sent it.. an error ocures..

i will try tomorrow...

yeah "error 1. We sorry but microsoft doesnt really give a fuck what our customers think.. we are a big corpation we just want all your money"

Boo hoo! Just tried MSN 6 and it is good but went back to v. 5 because with Plus! it is better.

We want MSN 6 + Plus!

Boo hoo hoo.

I have a contact in microsoft Benelux.
I can ask him if they did it on purpuse or not if you like?
But I think we'll have to wait for the final version of 6.0 to see if it's going to work or not...
If you wan't to I'll send a mail asking.
greets
Nickman

yaa please do that!

worth a try

Alright, the mail has left my pc,
Hopefully I'll have a reply tomorrow.
I'll keep you informed
Greets
Nickman

thats not good, but surley patchou could code it like the sounds and colours etc so that the new emoticons could work

U rule patchou you will do it , remember MSN 5 u cracked that problem i am here always to assist and test .   U GO PATCHOU U START CODIN

I know you can do it Patchou. Just keep on trying.

MSN Plus Rules

ive found the msg windows imap layout and im going to try and make a route for a Msn prog i made for logging convos but i use MSN plus because yours was better then my piece of rubbish but if i manage todo it ile post how to get MSN plus to find the Window

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Originally posted by Dadoef
Messenger 6.0 is not available yet. I saw the previews thow and the 75 new emoticons are nice and the new interface is also enjoyable. But I really really hope to have plus installed in it!!! Anyhow, just backed-up my messenger 5 and a copy of plus! still is in my mirror.
Anyhow, GO PATCHOU GO!!!! (weren't you resting? just can't leave plus! alone isn't it?)

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Well I although I am new here i been using msngr + since it was 1st out ! (dont have much time n all to post ) BUT THIS REALLY NEEDS TO BE HEARD OUT ! I mean wtf was Microsft thinking ? Yeah i am using the preview version [for evaluation purposes only] will go bak to 5 any tym tomorrow ! n yeah its nothing but "visual eye candy" i tell yah ! NOTHING ! Only some new emo icons dont mean s**t ! and the backgrounds ? i say yahoo's imvironments are way better ! a lil' imporvement here n ther duzznt prove nothing to me ! now i can also say they copied msngr+'s option of message logging ! man all this to get back at our Patchou ! I bet they were secretly devising this all along coz they culdnt come up with such kool stuff themselves. neways we all depend so heavily upon msn and i am simply NOT willing to let go of msngr+ no time soon ! uh-uh ! Hey Patchou man,we all are here for u ! Respect man !I'm all the way from Bangladesh and maybe there's lil time for sending POSTCARDS but we are all out there and in numbers unimaginable !I do hope u come up with something or else we will just have to bury MSN 6 alive even before its born ! All that HARD work and we get a full version of the new plus and Our fine *feathered friends ovr at Microsoft  decide to blow it up ! LONG LIVE MESSENGER PLUS ! Everyone out there who really uses MSN PLUS to its full extent wont go treading into unknown territory without it ! WE NEED MSN PLUS ! AND I HOPE WE WILL SEE TO IT THAT IT DOES ! 'gulp' !

I use messenger 6 and msn messenger plus work, All my friend see my name in color. And i can use the boss protection
The only thing it didn't work it the ctrl K for change the color of my text
But try to fix the probleme
You do a great job !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

download msn 6.0 at mess.be ( make msgplus work please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[excuse me while i swear out loud]
tabernac caliss esti
[/excuse me while i swear out loud]

i know you can do it patchou!
québec pride!

Some of you guys don't seem to get the point... MS has a "good" reason to block add-ins from their software. They don't want any third party programs to be in their program in the form of a menu or something (like Plus! and other add-ins), because whenever the add-in fucks up, people will think MSN is buggy and they will complain about it to MS. Personally I think it is a good step against people who make harmfull add-ins for MSN like hacking scripts and such; it's just too bad a harmless add-in like Plus! is affected by this, and I don't think MS really intended to stop Plus!, just add-ins in general. Knowing Microsoft, there should probably be a backdoor in the system. The window class should be inherited from a standard window class, which means the parent class' methods should still be accessible I think...
Patchou: I wish you the best of luck, and with all this support you're getting (both emotionally and technically) I have no doubt you can fix this problem.

IT WORKS IN VERSION 6 BETA ? RU SERIOUS ? NO WAAAY ! MESSENGER PLUS for me it sez version not compatible or sumthing like tht ! It works ? HOW ? WHEN ? LEMME KNOW !  

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Some of you guys don't seem to get the point... MS has a "good" reason to block add-ins from their software. They don't want any third party programs to be in their program in the form of a menu or something (like Plus! and other add-ins), because whenever the add-in fucks up, people will think MSN is buggy and they will complain about it to MS. Personally I think it is a good step against people who make harmfull add-ins for MSN like hacking scripts and such; it's just too bad a harmless add-in like Plus! is affected by this, and I don't think MS really intended to stop Plus!, just add-ins in general. Knowing Microsoft, there should probably be a backdoor in the system. The window class should be inherited from a standard window class, which means the parent class' methods should still be accessible I think...
Patchou: I wish you the best of luck, and with all this support you're getting (both emotionally and technically) I have no doubt you can fix this problem.

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[excuse me while i swear out loud]
tabernac caliss esti
[/excuse me while i swear out loud]

i know you can do it patchou!
québec pride!

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Well, I guess it's time to start changing the Messenger code itself, then.


There will be no stopping us!!

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[excuse me while i swear out loud]
tabernac caliss esti
[/excuse me while i swear out loud]

i know you can do it patchou!
québec pride!

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YA!!! VIVE LE QUÉBEC!!!

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i installed msn messenger 6 but when i run it i cant not chat with it, what i do???

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another thing is: msgplus is very stable. its never crashed on me and mp2 is the first add-on to be integraded in msn (that i know of)

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Well, I guess it's time to start changing the Messenger code itself, then.

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WOOOT ? Hey Hey ! Tht Maarch guy sed his one worx in 6 ! Is he bluffin or woot ?

It doesnt work. I tried.

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Originally posted by NMeI think Microsoft is already working towards their Paladium system which means software not certified by MS won't run on their system... This is one way to achieve that.

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Originally posted by Mesh
Don't be silly.  Or at least so mis-informed.

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HEY !!
WHUT UP ALL!!
MSG PLUS DOES WORK WITH MSN 6 YOU NEWFS!!!
I HAVE MSN 6 AND MSN 4 ON MY COMP, SO I RUN BOTH AT THE SAME TIME, THEN I FRIGGIN SIGN IN ON MSN 6!!!
AND MSN PLUS WORKs ON BOTH AT THE SAME TIME!!

I NO FOR SURE THIS WORKS ON THE BOSS PROTECT MODE!

BUT THE MESSENGER LOCK WORKS WEIRD. WHEN YOU UNLOCK YOU NEED TO UNLOCK TWICE, CUZ 2 MSNS ARE OPEN. AND I BELIEVE IT STLL LOGS THE MESSAGES TOO, HAVNT CHECKED IM TOO LAZY!


AND PERSONALIZED AWAY DOES NOT SEND THE AUTO MESSAGE. TOUGH LUCK, BUT IM GLAD I COULD LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW TO USE MSG PLUS AT LEAST A LIL!

JULIAN ~OUT~

¿¿¿¿ NO MORE ADDIN????


patchou, you must think about a new PLUS! like Trillian o something, I propose it like new project for you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I use messenger 6 and msn messenger plus work, All my friend see my name in color. And i can use the boss protection
The only thing it didn't work it the ctrl K for change the color of my text

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And wich ver. 4 do u mean jmprox ? Windows messenger ? lemme try !

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Originally posted by jmprox
HEY !!
WHUT UP ALL!!
MSG PLUS DOES WORK WITH MSN 6 YOU NEWFS!!!
I HAVE MSN 6 AND MSN 4 ON MY COMP, SO I RUN BOTH AT THE SAME TIME, THEN I FRIGGIN SIGN IN ON MSN 6!!!
AND MSN PLUS WORKs ON BOTH AT THE SAME TIME!!

I NO FOR SURE THIS WORKS ON THE BOSS PROTECT MODE!

BUT THE MESSENGER LOCK WORKS WEIRD. WHEN YOU UNLOCK YOU NEED TO UNLOCK TWICE, CUZ 2 MSNS ARE OPEN. AND I BELIEVE IT STLL LOGS THE MESSAGES TOO, HAVNT CHECKED IM TOO LAZY!


AND PERSONALIZED AWAY DOES NOT SEND THE AUTO MESSAGE. TOUGH LUCK, BUT IM GLAD I COULD LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW TO USE MSG PLUS AT LEAST A LIL!

JULIAN ~OUT~

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By the way, MP! will not work in Windows Longhorn as soon as that comes out either, unless Patchou gets MP! certified...

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because whenever the add-in fucks up, people will think MSN is buggy and they will complain about it to MS.

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So is there a new messenger + coming out? Shame it doesn't work with the new messenger 6.0

wowwwwwwwwww
great job GFD!!!!!!!!!
PLUS never die!!!!!!!, at least while this forum follows open and YOU, PATCHOU continues working in IT!!!!!

Yeh ! GR8 WORK GFD !

Well I and many of my friends have used Plus! since it first came out, we were all devestated when it wouldn't work with Messenger 5, but thankfully Patchou managed to work it out.

Prehaps MSN might be contacted and asked if it was any specific item in Plus! that they don't like (ie: the ad banner removal) and if that is the big issue that maybe that option could be taken out of it.

I spose another option (/me waits to be shot down in flames) would be to re design Plus! to work with another Messenger platforn and boycott Microsoft totally.  I am sure that they would notice a drop of 4 Million users.

Seems that they can't leave anything alone, they just updated the MSN chat control for their chatrooms with the only noticable differance being that your IP address comes up when you enter the room.

Oh well, hopefully it will all get sorted out and we will get back to chatting with our friends the way we like.......Plus!ed up.

NAX

i know i don't browse these forums that much
but i'd like to give my full support to Patchou and all those who are involved in making
as a former MP!2 Beta Tester, i'd be happy to help again any way i can !
and i'm sure lots of other ppl are behind you Patchou!
together we will beat M$


good luck
Shades

Patchou, I know you can find you way out so this it will support Wish you luck and I know you can do it.
Patchou

been 'ere fer coupla hourz now ! the hype's dyin down fer 6 already ! it'll start again in the morn no doubt ! but we need sumsorta news bout PLUS ! The *support* is always out there !

~Late.......

patchou plz plz get plus to work for msn 6. plz!

well.. i got some good news for all of you, i have restarted my computer, and i got a pop-up saying, try to fix it... i did as it said, pretty pestimistic that it wouldn't work.

then later i set my status to away, and strangely i got a pop-up saying personalised stutus, i tested it seen if it sent out a automessege.. no it didn't.. however, something is working..

Patchou.. you can do it!!!!

bills getting greedy again,already cancelled some features of hotmail,suspect soon hotmail won`t be free anymore,considering going back to aim now,they did their powers thing...smokes clear now i guess,me myself,suggest a boycott on msn messenger,if enough join wanker bill will get the idea
just my opinion

hotmail not free anymore? lol

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Originally posted by pisces866
bills getting greedy again,already cancelled some features of hotmail,suspect soon hotmail won`t be free anymore,considering going back to aim now,they did their powers thing...smokes clear now i guess,me myself,suggest a boycott on msn messenger,if enough join wanker bill will get the idea
just my opinion

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But anyway, just to update you guys. Some features of Messenger Plus! 2 still works with existing MSN Messenger 6.0. Features like chat logging, event logging, personalized away message still works. The rest of the features i have not tested it. Please keep us informed if anyone discover anything else which can work with MP2. Thanks!

Also we have to remember that the leaked version is still a beta. It's not final. They might 'slip up' and things might start working again.

why o why does m$ do these things??
evil i say! mp2 is soooo useful why would they do this?

Im using 98 SE and messenger plus! seems to partially work with messenger 6.0

That is to say, Contact manager, event log, boss mode, lock mode and preferences work..
What doesnt work is logging, quick texts and basically all "/" commands

for screen shots goto
http://msgplus.mybboard.com/showthread.php?tid=10753&page=3

You can get the patch off http://www.winbeta.org now to remove the ads...I know its not the same but it will do the job till the great Patachou finds a fix.


Sincerely,

Tim

I get the "Compatibility Info" thingie here......... Windows XP.
Nothing works.

BTW, is it just me, or is the "Help" menu in the Contact List window empty?

I also found two bugs (except for the "Launch Site" thing).....

There's a certain contact of mine, which installed MSN Messenger 6 too, and I don't recall how, but I got the right side-bar with his "display picture" to disappear. And the arrow thingie has disappeared as well, so I can't restore it! And yes, he does have a display picture, he even replaces it once and we talked a lot and we I tried re-opening the Conversation window and he tried to sign-in again. I also tried to play with some Options and right-click menus; But nothing, can't restore it. This happens with this contact only. I have other contacts with MSN Messenger 6 and I when I open a Conversation window with them, I can see the side-bar just fine, including the arrow thingie to hide/show it. So the problem is, this arrow has somehow disappeared on that other contact, even though he has a picture.

The second bug again only happens with that certain contact. He made some custom Emoticons, but I couldn't see them. All I saw was blank messages.

Looks likes some problem with sending the picture data to me.......... Veeeeery interesting.

Edit: Whoops, looks like I had him deleted from my Contact List...... The second I added him back, I was able to see his Display Picture...... Apparently MSN Messenger 6 blocks automatic image transfers (Display Pictures and Custom Emoticons) from people not on your list - a good thing for security.

If anyone needs a ad remover msg me on MSN under the name xxxgr33nd3vilxxx@msn.com

Peace.

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Originally posted by xXx_Virus_xXx
hey,  No offence or nothing.  But i really don't see what is so fantsatic about Msgplus.  all the features included in it are already avaliable in separate programs that were put out ages ago.  and besides half of the features are not up to date. ahh well. im goin with MSN Messenger 6 cuz personailly i don't think msgplus is all that great.l maybe u should make some major improvments in it and then release a newer version.  like..........talky messenger. try to include programmin where u can speak into a mic and it will automatically write it down for u. try something new dudes. then it will catch my eye. but as for now. its not that great in my prospective.

                                                              xXx_Virus_xXx

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when they said there contacts sees there name in colour, thats because they're contacts are  using 4.x or 5 still. the only things i still find that work with plus and msn 6 are boss protection and hiding the ad banner. everything else i hope you can get to work patchou, id hate to have to stop using msn 6 because m$
messed things up for all us plus! users

edit: erm.. i ended up replying to someones post like 5 pages ago in there. opps

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Originally posted by gfd

And everyone else, please send them a kind message at
http://messenger.msn-int.com/support/contactus.asp

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Well, it works fine for me. I use MSN Plus 2.0 @ MSN 6 without a problem.

Why is everybody so sad about the log saving fuctionality that doesn't work in Plus? As far as I can see MSN Messenger 6 has a *built-in* log saving!! (look under: Tools->Options->Messages)

I did NOT test the built-in logging, so don't flame me...

Maybe a solution would be, that Microsoft will "certify" some add-ins or at least plus! so then could be a Microsoft Certified 3rd Party Plugin (doesn't that sound terrible? ), but maybe that is the only thing for M$. But then M$ wants to check every new that comes out to see if it's "fully compitable" with messenger. That sux too of course...

is shit compared to what Patchou did with and   with you can talk to pepole allover the world but with u can only talk to your contacts and that is shit

Patchou work at it we need   and we are all behind you
Go Patchou Go

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Originally posted by Ice Queen
is shit compared to what Patchou did with and   with you can talk to pepole allover the world but with u can only talk to your contacts and that is shit

Patchou work at it we need   and we are all behind you
Go Patchou Go

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the point is we need

Ok, My cousin works for Microsoft and is a programmer and told me that they arent making it so things have to be certified because frankly companies like Adobe, Jasc, Game Companies, would find a diff OS to support there games, because of the fact that this would cost a lot ppl money.

So my point is...STOP SAYING CRAP THAT ISNT TRUE THERE IS NO MICROSOFT CERTIFICATION THE GOVT WONT ALLOW IT SO DROP IT!

Microsoft S-U-C-K-S as we all know! That is why I use all of their software illegal because I hate the way they work!!! They can not stand the succes of Patchou and are now trying to eliminate his work. Microsoft SCREW you, version 6.0 of MSN sucks anyway and for that few new emoticons I won't change my version.

But I think Microsoft will block version MSN Messenger 5.0 someday and then we have to go to version 6.0

Keep up the good work mate and if you need any money for sponsering to reprogram it for 6.0, I will fund you!

L e o n

I just got new discoveries. The chat logging feature stop functioning after i rebooted my PC!

Ehmmm.... very interesting.... (not really actually), cuz it's still a beta so there will be enough bugs.

msgplus does work with Longhorn but not with MSN 6 - Compatibility issues. If you run Windows Msger 4 or MSN 5 then it enables plus! features.

YAY!!!!!!!   HAPPY NEWS FOR ME (sorry for caps, I'm overjoyed...)

I just installed the beta of MSN6 and Plus! works for me...  didn't have to do anything! I havn't tested all the features yet to make sure they work, but the banner is gone.

I'm running W2k SP3 on a Celeron 1100MHz laptop with 119MB of RAM (some of the RAM is dedicated to graphics, hence the weird amount). Any more info you want? just tell me


Hope will NEVER EVER fade for MSN Plus!


*** Update: Plus! doesn't hook the instant message windows, but the main window works (seems to anyways)... ***

I dunno if its buggy or not but i tried downloading some new pictures and it comes"UNRESOLVED HOST NAME" yesterday it was working fine n now its not !

ok i went to http://www.msnfanatic.com/?c=downloads and downloaded msn 6 ..... it totally sucks without plus all the aussies from downunder are with you Patchou ...... msnplus rocks ...
also Microsoft S-U-C-K-S as we all know that why dont they listen to the people that use it ....but alass the corporate dollar has infected thier febbile minds at microsoft .

Hi Patchou! Could you send me the link to the site you got MSN 6.0?? I really want it it sounds so cool! I can't wait till July to get it . Or could you send me the download of MSN 6.0?? My email address is assy11nz@hotmail.com

Msn downloading in Indirizzo http://www.msnfanatic.be/msnmessenger6beta-winbeta.rar

yeh they removed it from mess n neowin....so who else got it ? max ppl dont evn know its out yet ! give out ur linx if u can....

ok sorry

I am with messenger plus all the way....

I have spoken to microsoft via e-mail and i am waiting a second reply after the first said i needed to contact MSDN about the matter.....what a load of [censored]

Oh darn ! my 98 isnt eating my lan card now ! geez ! i dinn use it fer the last year and  i changed my lan card but its not installin it fer sum damn reason ! neways so there is the theory tht it workx for some in 98 n 2k ! say wht,if sumone has both 98 n xp then can u try using it in 98 n check back here if it works ? and y are the games not working for some ! ?

http://betas.intercom.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=2776&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

The download page for MSN Messenger 6.0 Beta
Remember that this is a beta version. So you might find bugs

oopz ! wrong place wrong post ! sorry ppl ! ah whf ! i cant use plus no matter wht and sum ppl are also sayin it worx in their xp ! but i can play the games and everything else ! so whts the mystery behind plus workin for some and not the major rest ?

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Originally posted by Sean_Saunders
I am with messenger plus all the way....

I have spoken to microsoft via e-mail and i am waiting a second reply after the first said i needed to contact MSDN about the matter.....what a load of [censored]

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all they said in the first mail was that i should e-mail MSDN about it and not the microsoft main site...


Awaiting Reply

Mp2 owns:

k keep us posted !

will do

Patch said almost the exact same thing about MSN5, and he worked around that, so I am certain that he will get a msn6 compatable version

besides, since this is beta leak, they probably will re-enable addons for the final release

quote:

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Originally posted by SMG
Patch said almost the exact same thing about MSN5, and he worked around that, so I am certain that he will get a msn6 compatable version

besides, since this is beta leak, they probably will re-enable addons for the final release

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maybe they disabled it just for the beta?

quote:

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Originally posted by crazihouse
maybe they disabled it just for the beta?

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well all you people say,
lets stick with msn plus and msn 5 blablablablabalabl
eventualy nobody will be using msn 5, and everybody will use msn 6, the new features are just to funny, so everybody will use 6,

so instead of licking ass, please please please stay with msn plus come up with a normal message like mine

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for real now
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iám also a programmer so iam gonna check out that msn 6, to see if their is any way for plus to work, tobad i don't have the source code, for plus but maybe i can find something out, btw
i still think ill be waiting for six, (final) because, somethimes, the beta's contain, peaces of code they will remove later on anyway, and that could be buggy so maybe when the final is their it won't be any prob, so iám here to help ,

(only because i like the sounds )

My contact on microsoft thinks it's microsoft didn't do this on purpose but is't just accedently...
So The code will have to be adapted...

i dont know if this has already been posted but i have the beta of the nu msn and the latest version of Plus! and some of the features still work, for example Boss Protection, Locking MSN and even the Banner Add Removal still work!

yeah but if you read Patchous earlier post you'd find out theres a lot of features dont work ]
however I have faith in Patchou and am even considering learning C and assisting him in fixing it

quote:

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Originally posted by Nickman
My contact on microsoft thinks it's microsoft didn't do this on purpose but is't just accedently...
So The code will have to be adapted...

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quote:

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Originally posted by wabz
yeah but if you read Patchous earlier post you'd find out theres a lot of features dont work ]
however I have faith in Patchou and am even considering learning C and assisting him in fixing it

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thats if they release the API for MSN Messenger 6 which doesnt seem to likely to me

Damn Microsoft

Hey for the ppl who can sumhow use the limited features of Plus in ver 6 can u please add ur OS version ! It might help determine the amount of users who CAN use it and on wich OS ver most ! For me it did give the error and fix window tht happens if msn crashes when i started my pc just a while ago n i decided to put fix messenger and restart but still it duzznt work ! I am running Xp Pro with all the updates xcept one tht is said to slow down ur pc (info from Dwergs at mess.be) and i got 98 SE as backup but i cant seem to feed it my new lan card at all so i cant get online thru 98 to test if Plus actually worx there ! Aside from all of that EVERYTHING works just fine in Beta 6 including the games and webcam and the downloadable pictures and backgrounds tho it was giving an error back in the afternoon abt UNRESOLVED HOST Error ! i guess they were workin on tht then ! NEways i made my point but for those who are gonna post here abt Plus working for ur 6 then please state the OS ver and how to work the features of Plus in ver 6 k ? thts all ! thank u all !

Funny thing is that when i installed 6 it didnt ask to restart and i restarted a lot of times after installing it [for other reasons] and i got the error window that Plus shows if ur msn crashes only now ! not b4 ! Funny ! though i clicked "fix it",it still aint working !

yall owe me.... I hope this helps......
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    'Initiate Secure Session
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thats all i was able to get so far i hope it helps

And what is that load of incomprehensible [censored]?

Makes about as much sense to me as Microsoft does.

Im not that familiair with MSN Software tho. But perhaps the Findwindow API works? I dont use the API but made a nifty Function for it..

Public Function FindWindow(WindowTitle As String, Optional lpWindowName As String) As Long
Dim i As Long
For i = 1 To Windows.Count
If LCase$(Windows.Item.Caption) = LCase$(WindowTitle) Then
FindWindow = i
Exit Function
End If
Next i
FindWindow = -1
End Function

I hvae tried the BETA version of msnmessenger 6 its realy good its a shame that msn plus wont work it says it ant compatible you can download msn 6 from this address www.iexbeta.com i downloaded it from www.neowin.net but microsoft took it of

Ya got my support patchou!
Btw , we might should all send e-mails to microsoft to make Messenger plus an official update it might work..


Good luck patchou..

i do but my 98se lost its appetite after not running for a year or so n wont eat my lan card ! LOLZ ~

Lol? wtf?? stupid ms.. let those pricks make MSN compatible with plus for fuck sake.. There will indeed be some interesting figures which can be sent to ms...

I mean: who needs some stupid emoticon of some stupid car if you can have colors and away messages and encrypted logs and... all those other features!!

I do on my other computer!!

i have it i might try it later to see what happens

some ppl say that feautures like boss protection are workin somehow

nothing works for me

SHIT GUYS I am using a older version od MP2 and it works a bit better (WinME) will try on Xp some features seem to work. Hmmm pptchou seemed to say it didn't work on any version but yes works here  

Wich Ver of mp2 u mean ? elaborate ! n post back if it worx on xp ! i just updated the new NAT thingy now....

tell me what version and ima get it... I HOPE IT WORKS

reisyboy prove it with a screenshot otherwise your bull***ttin

just tell me what version ur using

Well not all features work and i am still not at home to test Xp but the version is 2.0.23

Screenie

Hmm some eatures seem to work nto all but the menus do and still testing

is that win 98 that u have?

ok thts in 98 i can c tht ! hmm we need xp proof !  coz max ppl here use xp ! at least i do !

i got an older version ! 2.0.16 i finkz ! lemme try !

No its WinME i said i cant do Xp till i get home

nop it aint workin ! i just reinstalled the older version ! but nop !
say whered i gonna get me ur version ?

hey could u send me the 2.02.23 version?

yeah ! but mine aint even workin on the OLDER than urs version ! lolz ! but let us know whered we get tht one u got !

Dnt know because i dont have it on this pc its my uncles

Btw,any news from Ol' Patchou yet ? Or anyone close to him or workin with him sumtime NOW ? It would really assure us if he dropped by and let us know of his activities ! lol !

how big is it ? can u attach it here fer all to try ?

u cant pm u bak coz it sez ur qouta is full ! clear tht n msg me bak plz !

[please dont make mutliple posts, instead use the edit button next time!]

not really just waiting for patchou to say plus works *lol*

Call me crazy, but i've gotten Messenger Plus! to work with MSN 6. It may just be a coincidence, but it works.
I had Messenger 2.10.32 installen on a Windows 2000 server machine. The Messenger version was the latest MSN messenger 4.7 version. I cann't exactly tell you which version it was, but i'll try to find that out later if it could be of any importance.
I just installed MSN 6 over it, and it worked.

@Patchou : At the moment i'm not at home, so i cann't check anything, but if i can help you in any way to find out why it does work, i'll be glad to help. Just mail me.

i know ! lotsa ppl sed it workx in 98,ME,2k ! NOT FREAKIN XP FER Pete's SAKE !

why doesnt it work on xp and longhorn

It does kind of work but most features wont work I,E the problem with msn 6 just hold this space Patchou will pull something out the bag

Ok, I have actually taken the time to read ALL POSTS in this topic, which I suggest everyone do because I read the same question about 1,000,000,000 times, lol. As of right now I am still undecided what I will do, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE messenger plus, but on the other hand MSN 6 looks pretty good as well. I have already sent MS a message. One thing to keep in mind is that some features of MSN Messenger do not work unless BOTH people have the same version, as this was the case when MSN 5 was released. I am sure MSN 6 will be a huge hit, but if everyone that uses Plus! do not upgrade than there will be some compatibility issues when your contact has the newer version. Patchou, have you thought about making you own version of Messenger, I have seen a couple around and I think that would be a better idea than trying to make old software work with newer software. And think about it, if you make it yourself you can do what you want with it! Good Luck!

** Forgot to mention that My Visual Basic picks them up as valid DLL library files excluding the one entitled lib4.dll

Patchou - Have you tried extracting the DLL Type libraries from the EXE with ResHacker. It produces 4 files and one of them I believe the second one is the MSN Messenger API Type Library - Hope that helps.

would it be illegal to make plus compatible through sumone elses patch to fix the problem? sumone anonimise (i cant spell) can take the blame (but micro shit would have to track them down.) can the api be changed to the same one as msn 5?

I posted "feedback" to Microsoft explaining my personal feeling, and the feelings of this group to them. Why do you all * and blind about Microsoft, then go using their OS's? I'm not on there side here, it's just dogey
I hope that Microsoft read my mail and take it into consideration, or I too will stick with MSN 5.0!
Long Live the Chickens (MSN Messenger Plus! 2)

Puk Puk Pukkaw ! Riteon buddy !

Yawwwn again ! Oh man was i hyped when NYSupa sed the new version is comin out today ! but me timez up ! i gotta get me sum sleep yo ! hopefully i'll be dreamin tht this worx with version 6 tho thts a fat fair chance ! Didn't Patchou say it will at least disable the compability thing and stop it from workin in 6 or something like that ? neways when i wake up i'll b xpecting the new version ! cant w8 2 take it out for a spin !

Tatz...

23 pages or replies yet... well, thank you all . I'm now working on the problem. Thanks to Will, things have been going much faster than I expected. I'm more optimistic now but even if I succeed, there is plenty of work along the way. I'm closing this thread now. Please do not post messages about "when will Plus! be compatible with Messenger 6?"... the answer is: "as fast as possible". The moderators will delete any thread asking this question.

Again, thank you for your support
Patchou