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RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
active plus! user count != user registrations on this forum sure, the community around msn/wlm (mess.be etc) is falling apart a bit, but with [url=http://www.msgpluslive.net/news/2008/07/09/th ank-you/]50+ million users[/url] currently using plus!, y... | andrey | WLM Plus! General | 01-18-2010 at 09:40 PM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
Why on earth should they not upgrade??? The whole point of this change is that Plus! can be developed further. If Patchou wouldn't have done what he did, then there would be no Plus! anymore, at all. I very strongly encourage to first read Patchou'... | CookieRevised | WLM Plus! General | 01-18-2010 at 10:44 AM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
Definitely giving that one a thumbs up. As I said in my previous post, I think that Yuna Software will be less personal, so by them making people think that Patchou [i]is in charge[/i] or at least have a massive say in the software, people will rema... | user27089 | WLM Plus! General | 01-18-2010 at 09:25 AM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
Not really. Yuna owns the msghelp.net domain, but the forum server, including the hardware and the software, is still ours. We can change our domain and remain open (although probably no longer the "official" Plus! forums) should Yuna no longer ne... | Mnjul | WLM Plus! General | 01-18-2010 at 08:59 AM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
No we don't. There isn't much he can do. Yuna Software is in full control, they can even close down the forum if they like. I'd say all we can do now is cross our fingers and hope for the best. though for now I personally don't have a good feel... | charlie_su1986 | WLM Plus! General | 01-18-2010 at 08:35 AM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
Fair enough, maybe "he's not personally [i]associated[/i] with Plus!" would be a better way to put it, as in: "Yuna Software" are officially the owners and not "Patchou". I'm sure I remember him saying that Plus!-related issues should be se... | Chris4 | WLM Plus! General | 01-18-2010 at 02:56 AM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
I think the way you phrased that is kind of misleading... he's still part of the Yuna Software team working on Plus!, but his role has changed. [quote=Patchou]That being said, at the time of writing, I'm still actively involved in Yuna Software's... | WDZ | WLM Plus! General | 01-18-2010 at 02:24 AM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
Like he said in his blog post, he's not personally related with Plus! any more. Anything related to Plus! should go to Yuna Software's email, if you're lucky enough to get a reply. | Chris4 | WLM Plus! General | 01-18-2010 at 02:05 AM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
It asks you before it downloads the update, and Patchou wouldn't let them ruin his hard work, remember he is still in the team. You can cancel the update and read the changelog (as there's usually one posted with every update) before you update if... | Rolando | WLM Plus! General | 01-18-2010 at 12:59 AM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
[url=http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=43+boul.+Sams on+Suite+270+Laval,+Quebec+H7X+3R8&oe=utf-8&client =firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=43+Boulevard+Samson,+ Laval,+Qu%C3%A9bec,+Canada&gl=uk&ei=XaJTS4v3LZ380w SDz7WzDQ&ved=0CAgQ8gEwAA&ll=45.521922,-73.789359&. .. | stoshrocket | WLM Plus! General | 01-17-2010 at 11:56 PM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
That's Patchou's [s]address[/s] PO box, not the one of the new owner. And the list of those other companies is completely irrelevant. | Menthix | WLM Plus! General | 01-17-2010 at 11:41 PM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
Plus! was a product of a company called Yuna Software headed by Patchou, it has now been sold to new proprietors and Patchou no longer calls the shots, if I understand correctly. | vaccination | WLM Plus! General | 01-17-2010 at 09:49 PM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
No, not automatically. Because Plus! hasn't been 'changed' to Yuna Software just now. Plus! has been 'changed' to Yuna Software a long time ago, as in many years ago. At that point Patchou still owned Yuna Software and as the only one in that co... | CookieRevised | WLM Plus! General | 01-17-2010 at 09:26 PM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
I mean, now that plus has changed to Yuna Software that doesn't mean someone has bought it? | Chrissy | WLM Plus! General | 01-17-2010 at 09:14 PM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
hu? you lost me there.... You can't see from just a copyright notice if the company has been sold or not; A copyright notice shows who owns the copyright. It does not show who owns the company that owns the copyright. | CookieRevised | WLM Plus! General | 01-17-2010 at 09:04 PM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
So, just because the copyrights and stuff say 'Yuna Software' it doesn't really mean it's now sold :P? | Chrissy | WLM Plus! General | 01-17-2010 at 08:55 PM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
absolutely correct! | CookieRevised | WLM Plus! General | 01-17-2010 at 08:23 PM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
@Cookie: So Years ago Yuna software owned by patchou owned Plus!? And now someone had bought Yuna Software that also owns Plus?? | Chrissy | WLM Plus! General | 01-17-2010 at 08:21 PM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
Maybe, but in that case the poll question is very wrong. ------------ PS: But it is not entirly true either that all of a sudden Yuna Software now owns Plus! though. Yuna Software has owned Plus! for years. Patchou simply kept using his nickname for ... | CookieRevised | WLM Plus! General | 01-17-2010 at 07:48 PM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
| Chrissy | WLM Plus! General | 01-17-2010 at 07:22 PM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
who would you 'fuck' since have no idea who yuna are ? | toddy | WLM Plus! General | 01-17-2010 at 07:13 PM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
its hardly an open subject is it. p.s. cookie i don't think the real issue is a "total" sell-out, its the fact that its changed hands & patchou is no longer in charge of what happens/is installed/is added etc (bar some conditions in the contract... | toddy | WLM Plus! General | 01-17-2010 at 05:43 PM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
Don't lie. You are not a beta tester... Patchou has given us a lot of info already, all the info he legally can give (where do you think I got my info from?). The rest of the missing info must come from Yuna itself, which is still lacking... | CookieRevised | WLM Plus! General | 01-17-2010 at 04:43 PM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
hmm... I see you point. But you're forgetting a 3rd option: they are looking at it in an unbiased/technical way without defending nor judging Patchou. Because selling-out technically means completely selling everything without any conditions, [size=... | CookieRevised | WLM Plus! General | 01-17-2010 at 03:32 PM |
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
indeed, however this thread is about patchou selling plus! thus people are either defending patchou or going against him (or of course staying clear) | toddy | WLM Plus! General | 01-17-2010 at 03:15 PM |