How long did it take to develop Messenger Plus? I know it's an on-going thing, but how long did it take to pump out the first edition(s)?

the first edition was launched more than 2 years ago

and did not have so many features

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Originally posted by BooGhost
the first edition was launched more than 2 years ago

and did not have so many features

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Well back then plus was still in development, im not sure what Patchou's intentions were at the time but im sure he is proud of his accomplishments.

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Originally posted by Sk3tch
Well back then plus was still in development, im not sure what Patchou's intentions were at the time but im sure he is proud of his accomplishments.

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Has been around for a couple of years and is perhaps seen as the first serious add-on for messenger Was released in early January of this year and has went through serveral changes in that time  Patchou has become bolder and more confident over these last 6 months and perhaps will one day work for Microsoft as a feature adder

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Originally posted by wabz
perhaps will one day work for Microsoft as a feature adder

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He woudl probably sue our forum to get all his mindmap ideas

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Originally posted by wabz
...and perhaps will one day work for Microsoft as a feature adder

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bha.. I'm already paid wih the sponsor program . But yes, I would be very inerested to work for Microsoft.. I'll see about that if I can't enter University next january.

As for Plus!, my original goal was simply to test system hooks, a technology I read about in an issue of an MSDN Magazine. If Microsoft didn't had sent me this free preview of the magazine more than two years ago, Messenger Plus! would have never existed

MS blah.......

correction:

MS FREE MAGAZINES

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Originally posted by Patchou
bha.. I'm already paid wih the sponsor program . But yes, I would be very inerested to work for Microsoft..

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Originally posted by s_lyon87

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Originally posted by Patchou
bha.. I'm already paid wih the sponsor program . But yes, I would be very inerested to work for Microsoft..

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but if you work for microsoft then you'll have first have access to the programming,  no need for the hours trying to outsmart it!

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Back to the main topic... if you want a "development timeline," check this out...

http://shoutbox.menthix.net/history.php

nice page

Version 1.00 19-05-2001 . Very nice page

Sweet

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This software is now called "Messenger - Plus! Extension" because the new version of MSN Messenger is called Windows Messenger

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Originally posted by wabz
Sweet

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This software is now called "Messenger - Plus! Extension" because the new version of MSN Messenger is called Windows Messenger

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What was is called before?

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I remember being around since 1.10.. When Plus! was a baby... now look at it

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I've changed some compilation options and I successfully removed 180KB from the setup package. That's great for those who still receive internet on 56K modems .

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thank you Chris, it's even better to see people like you who support me from the beginning . As for the original name of the software, iut was "The MSN Messenger Plus! Extension" . I do not encourage anyone to install early versions of the software, you'll probably have very bad results

I got MsgPlus version 1.0
Havent tried to install it though...

If u are going to work for microsoft, then u have to ask them if u can keep ur forums... and pay the mods and admins

I had also started using plus! when the first version of plus! is released.

I love Messenger Plus!

damn its been a long time i've had plus since 1.20a (as far as i can remeber.. ) found it on mess

i just got plus about 4 months ago, but i still think it's great

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Originally posted by lizard.boy
damn its been a long time i've had plus since 1.20a (as far as i can remeber.. ) found it on mess

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Originally posted by Patchou
I do not encourage anyone to install early versions of the software, you'll probably have very bad results 

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Personal Spanish version of Plus 1.42b

(Sorry about the ugly green I used to like it)

i've been using messenger plus! from the very beginning (though i only joined the forums last month) and I LOVE IT!!! and i always will. but i stopped using it for a while when i had msn 6 and it wasn't compatible with it, so during that time i was hoping that Patchou would pull it through so i could have both msn 6 and messenge plus!, and he did!

THANKS PATCHOU!!

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Originally posted by Chrono
I got MsgPlus version 1.0

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Originally posted by BooGhost

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Originally posted by lizard.boy
damn its been a long time i've had plus since 1.20a (as far as i can remeber.. ) found it on mess

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samne here, and I'm loggin chats since that time

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Originally posted by reisyboy
OOOO please  can i have it Chrono 

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i was checking out the version history of messenger plus and WOW there are sooo many new features and changes! thats a great page! one question, in messengerplus 1.0 what is The Auto Appear Offline feature ???? j/w?

It means you automatically appear offline when you login

why was it taken off?

From the FAQ:

Why Messenger Plus! doesn't have feature X? I know it's possible to do!
Some features are not included in Messenger Plus! for several reasons. Privacy is the first one: no feature will ever be added that could compromise the privacy or the security of your contacts or yourself (examples of such features are block detection schemes, send messages while appearing offline, ...). The second reason is conviviality: preferences panels with too many options are not very user friendly, that's why some minor settings are available only through the registry. The third reason is what could be called "politically correct": I use my own judgement to decide wether or not a feature should be added in Messenger Plus!. One of the reasons why this add-on is so much popular is precisely because I'm doing my best to take good care of it and some options just don't fit in my targeted audience.

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Originally posted by Tochjo
From the FAQ:

Why Messenger Plus! doesn't have feature X? I know it's possible to do!
Some features are not included in Messenger Plus! for several reasons. Privacy is the first one: no feature will ever be added that could compromise the privacy or the security of your contacts or yourself (examples of such features are block detection schemes, send messages while appearing offline, ...). The second reason is conviviality: preferences panels with too many options are not very user friendly, that's why some minor settings are available only through the registry. The third reason is what could be called "politically correct": I use my own judgement to decide wether or not a feature should be added in Messenger Plus!. One of the reasons why this add-on is so much popular is precisely because I'm doing my best to take good care of it and some options just don't fit in my targeted audience.

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Originally posted by s_lyon87
why was it taken off?

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Originally posted by s_lyon87

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Originally posted by Tochjo
From the FAQ:

Why Messenger Plus! doesn't have feature X? I know it's possible to do!
Some features are not included in Messenger Plus! for several reasons. Privacy is the first one: no feature will ever be added that could compromise the privacy or the security of your contacts or yourself (examples of such features are block detection schemes, send messages while appearing offline, ...). The second reason is conviviality: preferences panels with too many options are not very user friendly, that's why some minor settings are available only through the registry. The third reason is what could be called "politically correct": I use my own judgement to decide wether or not a feature should be added in Messenger Plus!. One of the reasons why this add-on is so much popular is precisely because I'm doing my best to take good care of it and some options just don't fit in my targeted audience.

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is this responding to this

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Originally posted by s_lyon87
why was it taken off?

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Originally posted by wabz
It means you automatically appear offline when you login

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because there are SOOO many possible features you can change in plus, yet some are not in the menus becuase there are so many, Patchou should consider making 2 versions -- messenger plus lite and messenger plus pro. more advanced users could easilly access the advanced features within the professional edition of the program instead of tweaking - and possibly damaging the windows registry

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Originally posted by jordanspringer
because there are SOOO many possible features you can change in plus, yet some are not in the menus becuase there are so many, Patchou should consider making 2 versions -- messenger plus lite and messenger plus pro. more advanced users could easilly access the advanced features within the professional edition of the program instead of tweaking - and possibly damaging the windows registry

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I agree with KoalaBlue. I can't see any reason to make 2 versions. The version we all have is easy to use, and there are a lot of features, but its easy to remember the ones you need.

The only possible reason I could see for making a streamlined version of Plus is to reduce the size of the setup file. Its currently just over 2Mb, so even on a 56k modem, it won't take forever to get.

As for the registry options, they are very specific and 99% of users won't need to touch them. I certainly haven't

I also agree with KoalaBlue and Jeronimo.  I don't touch the registry either.  It makes absolutlely no differnce.  As for the reason, Jeronimo and KoalaBlue has said that clearly, so I will not bother to say it again.

I remember when the sounds where like huge eggs posted on mess.be

plus wont need any advanced version (but me cant wait for the regrestry importer exporter in 2.5)   i screw with my regrestry all the time  its great to reset ur google toobar popup blocker cound its not that hard to do things once u get the hang of it (most people dont even want to try tho)

is a huge program in itself it's not made for advanced our simple users it's a program thats accessable to everyone

Wtbw is devolping Freedom to be on a more advanced scale aimed at hardcore users

And theres plently of simplistic tools out there   Just appeals to everyone

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Originally posted by lizard.boy
plus wont need any advanced version (but me cant wait for the regrestry importer exporter in 2.5)   i screw with my regrestry all the time  its great to reset ur google toobar popup blocker cound its not that hard to do things once u get the hang of it (most people dont even want to try tho)

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The only possible reason I could see for making a streamlined version of Plus is to reduce the size of the setup file. Its currently just over 2Mb, so even on a 56k modem, it won't take forever to get.

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yep, GFD's right.. in the current version, there's 900KB of bitmaps and 660KB of sounds already

dewd! 2001! Well I probably would of installed MSN Messenger Plus! Extension if I knew what I do now about computers, but back I didn't ever have a computer, and when I did get a computer I didnt get the internet until half way through 2002!

But now I'm here, and glad too!

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Originally posted by gfd

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Originally posted by lizard.boy
plus wont need any advanced version (but me cant wait for the regrestry importer exporter in 2.5)   i screw with my regrestry all the time  its great to reset ur google toobar popup blocker cound its not that hard to do things once u get the hang of it (most people dont even want to try tho)

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what does the plus! preferences importer/exporter have to do with Google toolbar?

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ahh the good ol days when the first messenger was released.  i still have all those old versions.  hehe