Good afternoon,

just got some news from Microsoft... apparently they apprciate what I'm doing with Messenger... I'm very surprized but hey, that's a very good news (for me at least ). Apparently, there was some internal problems at Microsoft which resulted in the non-update of the API documentation. Now that they know that it causes a lot of problems to some people they are supposed to do what they have to do to solve the problem... great!

In the mean time I've completed the new Personalized Status feature (the old Perso Away renamed). I know it can seems to have taken a lot of time for this single feature (and it was not much improved since last version) but in some ways it's related to multi color/format text and logging so I had to do a lot of code that it going to help me with the forthcoming features.

For those who are interested in my personal life, well... this evening I'm suppose to eat chicken with mushrooms. I'm looking forward to see the Simpsons Halloween Special  on Fox this week end.... ... seriously, this evening I'll release the Interactive Agents Plugin update for Messenger 5 to ActiveBuddy. After they've done some beta test, they will release it to the public. You should try it, it's really a great tool (mostly interesting for USA people though).

I'm also going to add some more commands to MP2. Starting tomorrow I'll code the multi color/format feature... if you do not know what I'm talkign about, it's the feature that will allow you to send different colors in the same texts... exactly like IRC... if we're lucky enough, it will be really like IRC, by that I mean that it will add the underline and the background color option for your text. That's one of the feature I hope will make MP2 a success.

Again, I hope that the Alpha version will be available for the end of next week. I want to add logging first so.. we'll see.... for those interested in scripting, I still don't know what to do as it will directly be related to the Messenger API I can use.

Patchou.

yippie

Microsoft? Cooperating? Funny things can happen...

Great news though, can't wait for the alphas.

In fact, I intend to improve the logging feature to make it more reliable and more some other things but unfortunately, MP2 will probably not feature HTML logging.... the reason is that it's too big for the current time I have.

However, what I would liek to see is a good log viewer... the one that did Ginge is already very good... I suppsoe I won't add any log viewer with MP2 but I'll probably do it for next versions.

Patchou.

Do you thin html in future versions aswell or maybe as a seperate patch for people who want it 

MS recieve so much stick... if it wasnt for them they wouldnt be a Plus! Kinda hypocritical isnt it?

Good point, but they are a bit of a money grabbing company that just buys out any competition.

Im sure if you were in the same situations, youd do the same thing... its called business. After all, they need and will make money like anyone else.

yeh i see your point, and i probably would, but people dont like them because they have to much of a monopoly.

Wow! great news man.

Would it be possible to have each person in each conversation in the Chat Logger have a different color, even without using HTML?  It'd make reading it a bit easier.

For example:

2Cold said:  yadda yadda
Jim said:  Yadda yadda

But instead of it all being black, who not have one person be black, one be red or soemthing?

] 2Cold said:  yadda yadda
Jim said:  Yadda yadda

Is that possible? 

Also, one of these days, it be neat to see the emoticons as actual images in the logger as an option.  Just my two cents. 

I don't see why people dislike Microsoft... I don't have any problem with them...

Anyways, great news! I was kinda looking forward to HTML logging, though...

hmm so was i, who knows maybe a future version or a seperate patch what you think patchou?

Great Chritstmas Yoda!

For logging, of course I intend to put HTML but probably not in version 2.00... there's just too much things to do and HTML logging would take more than 1 week of work to be done properly so I prefer to keep it for a next verison. But don't worry, logging, as everything, will be completly rewritten and it will be far more reliable and better organized with some new options. I'm sure you prefer to have great TXT logs rather than average HTML ones.

Concerning Microsoft, you know, if it was not for them I wouldn't even have a job. I really like Windows, it's a great environment. Microsoft is one of the companies that does the best job when software development is concerned. I never said anything against them... if they refuse to give me access to their API they have reasons, and good ones... I'm not sure I would like someone to "patch" a program I made as I'm doing with their software. Actually, they're taking all this very nicely so we can thank them for that.

YYYAYYYYYY MP2 WILL LIVE ON!

Great news Patchou

Welcome Mess.Be visitors 

I can't wait till it comes out!

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Great Chritstmas Yoda!

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For logging, of course I intend to put HTML but probably not in version 2.00... there's just too much things to do and HTML logging would take more than 1 week of work to be done properly so I prefer to keep it for a next verison. But don't worry, logging, as everything, will be completly rewritten and it will be far more reliable and better organized with some new options. I'm sure you prefer to have great TXT logs rather than average HTML ones.

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Concerning Microsoft, you know, if it was not for them I wouldn't even have a job. I really like Windows, it's a great environment. Microsoft is one of the companies that does the best job when software development is concerned. I never said anything against them... if they refuse to give me access to their API they have reasons, and good ones... I'm not sure I would like someone to "patch" a program I made as I'm doing with their software. Actually, they're taking all this very nicely so we can thank them for that.

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Welcome Mess.Be visitors 

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Well... personally, you call them a business and they need money. Well with them selling millions of copys of software every day, do you really think they need that money?
Bill gates is the richest man in the world, what does anyone need all that money for?

Great News about the MSN 5 API, i know it is kinda restricted at the moment, but you can grab your contact list, and other information, but without MsgrObject it is very limited.

Patchou, MSN Developers are greatful for this help hope you've seen our piss take and support for the re-introduction of MSN API
http://resistance.msnprogz.com

I searched in the MSDN library for the old api reference, but I found this on the old page:

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The Messenger API References have been updated and are available for download in the MSDN Download Center.

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The more like IRC the better - thanks again for your efforts going out of your way to code some cool software for us ppl

Now that the Personalised Away system is complete, does this mean that i can now have a different personalised away message be sent to each of my contacts and for it to show in the IM window? Or is it one message for ALL contacts and sent invisible?

Hey people.

Patchou - You're doing a great work dude! I was wondering... How do you pronounce your nickname? BTW I volunteered to translate MP2 through your site to Hebrew.... hope you got that... And umm... In the customized away thing? Could you make an option NOT to get prompted for an away reason when I set away... it drives me crazy.

Anyhow. So the 5th version of the MSN Messenger is here. That's great. And it works on my XP. But hey - didn't they say the MSN Messenger doesn't work on Windows XP? That XP has its own Messenger that works with the MSN Messenger Service, but is strictly a Windows...... thingie?

Why are they making this so confusing? If it works on XP, there's no need to release a new Windows Messenger.... but they're breaking their own words with this. Does anyone know anything about this? I really don't like when they do such stuff.

well i am english do french and i fidn it fukin hard to speek frenc.

ya, my sneezes sound like im saying patchou... if he lived here he'd always look around for someone calling his name.. and its just me sneezing

I think it is good news to all MSN Messenger 5 users as it will means we are able to use more plugins from other vendors like MP2 and Norton AntiVirus 2003 will work with MSN Messenger 5! 

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yeh i see your point, and i probably would, but people dont like them because they have to much of a monopoly.

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i know i got the cd gam of it 

Yo great dude Patchou! As I knew you wouldn't get better.    Planning for another holiday? Screw the damn project man there is nothing left! Right yo all people?

Okie people... you may hit my butt! (gently... have some basic mannerz...LOL)

I love Msger Plus! Extension and no other "plus" comes even close, but I like the logviewer from these guys



(the rest of their prog sucks though )

keep up the good work
phaelox

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Yo great dude Patchou! As I knew you wouldn't get better.    Planning for another holiday? Screw the damn project man there is nothing left! Right yo all people?

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Grammasoft again ...
Stop talking about "their" program ...

Shutup about the evil program

how can i use multi msn with msn 5.0

You need to download a patch from mess.be.

And I would hit the delete button... but we do need one post that everyone can see "Deleted" under your username.

my god.... why do you post so much during the we? all my free time is during the week, when I'm at work hehe .

Ok... hum.. for the Personalized Status, no you can't specify one different for each contact, however, you can deactivate it individualy in each im window if you want. You can also put yourself in Perso Away quickly by using a user-defined shortcut or a command (like /away <my text>)

Messenger Plus! in hebrew? excellent! that way I'm sure Jesus will be able to use my software if he resurects soon enough. j/k... no that's great, really, thank you.

Concerning my name, yeah it's pronouned Pat-shoe. For a real news, check out my new post

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Messenger Plus! in hebrew? excellent! that way I'm sure Jesus will be able to use my software if he resurects soon enough. j/k... no that's great, really, thank you.

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to be honest... "I Seek You" sucks... but much ppl have it...  thats why i installed it too...

ICQ is dangerous... hehe thats the right word

getting a IP is easy and sending a trojan too...

Hi guys,

So you all know by now that M$ removed typelib from MSN5. But i did a little research and found... yes, interfaces are the same! =) They renamed interfaces and they changed GUIDs, but here's what you can do: use MSN4 and OLE viewer to produce .c and .h files for MSN4. Now in .c change GUIDs, and you don't need to bother about interfaces names, really.

The only thing i can add is that behaviour has changed too, just a bit. E.g. get_IMWindows can fail when MSN is not signed in, but that's not so important.

Hope you'll find above useful. And keep community going! Cheers! =))

Sincerely, cyan

and MsgrObject CoClass GUID changed. here's appropriate declaration

MIDL_DEFINE_GUID(CLSID, CLSID_MSNMsgrObject,0xF5F545A6, 0x39C4, 0x40B5, 0x81, 0x4D, 0xB4, 0x50, 0x40, 0xA8, 0x9F, 0xB5);

The MsgrObject has been totally deleted in MSN 5.0... No way to get it back!

Rene

nope . following code gets called OK (but doesn't do signoff, need to think more)

MIDL_DEFINE_GUID(IID, IID_IMSNMsgrObject,0x0F66A667,0x732D,0x4509,0xA5,0x95,0x9E,0x31,0x35,0x8D,0xA1,0x9C);
MIDL_DEFINE_GUID(CLSID, CLSID_MSNMsgrObject,0xF5F545A6, 0x39C4, 0x40B5, 0x81, 0x4D, 0xB4, 0x50, 0x40, 0xA8, 0x9F, 0xB5);

COMInterfaceHolder<IMsgrObject> app_iface;
        HRESULT res = CoCreateInstance(CLSID_MSNMsgrObject, NULL,
            CLSCTX_LOCAL_SERVER, IID_IMSNMsgrObject,
            (void**) app_iface.get_interface_ptr());

        ASSERT(SUCCEEDED(res));
        (*app_iface)->Logoff();

Hm, I can't understand C++...But I really think the old API is deleted...You don't see them in the OLE viewer. What do other people think?

Rene

Well first of all first time Post!!

and i would just like to say PLEASE release new Plus! i cant open my messenger anymore at work i need transparency.
And the other thing is i dont know whats happening with the simpsons, dont get me wrong im a really big fan, but this halloween special was nowhere near the last ones. i really wish they would have put more effort into it. there were a couple of good jokes do.

anyways thats my opinion

I agree with what you are saying for The Simpsons... I expected more for this special episode.... but you know... 13 years... they must be out of ideas now.

2Rene: you're seeking them in wrong place )) Try "All objects", then instantiate object with GUID from my previous post (double-click on object node), you'll see all those interfaces.


P.S.: and do learn C++

Thanks for answering my question Patchou. It appears you are doing a great job on MP2. One more question. Will the away messages appear in the IM Windows when they are sent?

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I agree with what you are saying for The Simpsons... I expected more for this special episode.... but you know... 13 years... they must be out of ideas now.

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hey now patch,,
 
where can i download this patch for 5.0 i see screan shoots but i can not get it   

If you're talking about Messenger Plus! 2, it's not ready yet.

It's going 2 B alpha tested very soon
(in less than 2 days)