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Patchou ? by superyann on 02-23-2004 at 05:27 PM
(message for those which speaks French.)
Salut,
J'aimerais savoir pourquoi tout est entierement anglais ici et patchou est québécois.. j'aimerais ca aussi qu'il réponde lui meme pour me dire.. : je dénigre ma langue.. genre, ou quelque chose comme ca, j'trouve ca vraiment down.. de sa part.. juste pour ca, jva pu jamais installer ce logiciel, 
www.super-yann.com
ajoute moi a ton msn patchou haha
RE: Patchou ? by Anubis on 02-23-2004 at 05:29 PM
The forum rules do ask you to speak in English so no one's yacking off in every language...so it could be regarded as Spam...and why join this forum if you've never installed this software?
RE: Patchou ? by Tochjo on 02-23-2004 at 05:32 PM
He's kinda asking Patchou why everything is in English, while Patchou is from Quebec (well, France, actually, he emigrated), and that he'd like to see a reply from Patchou himself that "he denigrates his language". I believe he also said something about never installing the software because of this.
The mentioned web site doesn't work either.
RE: Patchou ? by billywoods1 on 02-23-2004 at 05:42 PM
Superyann, on parle anglais ici parce que la plupart des gens parlent en anglais... Messenger Plus! peut être installé en français, on doit simplement choisir la langue dans l'installation.
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Superyann, we speak English here because most people speak English... Messenger Plus! can be installed in French, you simply need to choose your language in the installation.
RE: Patchou ? by Wabz on 02-23-2004 at 06:54 PM
It's a french thing the whole countrys worried about losing there language because of Americanisms and the entire English language.
They now use weekend to describe Saturday and Sunday as they didnt have a word for it
RE: Patchou ? by Patchou on 02-23-2004 at 08:29 PM
superyann: si ton message était sérieux, il est vraiment très bête. Ce n'est pas parceque j'habite au Québec que je dois parler français a 4 millions d'utilisateurs qui parlent une trentaine d'autres langues. Avoir un language universel pour parler est une excellente chose pour tout le monde. Si je ne me souciait pas de localiser mon logiciel, je ne me prendrai pas la tête a chaque version pour faire traduire Messenger Plus! dans autant de langues différentes (y compris le français).
J'aime ma langue, je la défend, mais je suis contre les abus ridicules que certaines personnes veulent faire passer ici. Commençons par parler correctement français dans des chaines jeunesses populaires comme Teletoon (a toute les semaines, ils inventent un nouveau mot, le dernier en date: "sientiste" au lieu de "scientifique"), on verra pour les pochettes de DVD après.
Patchou
RE: Patchou ? by billywoods1 on 02-23-2004 at 10:07 PM
quote:Mais il y a bien sûr des gens qui parlent pas anglais, surement il devrait y avoir des différentes versions du site web etc.? Essayer de trouver un logiciel dans sa langue maternelle sur un site web anglais, c'est probablement très difficile. Je comprends que l'anglais, c'est une des langues les plus utilisées autour du monde, et la plupart des gens l'apprennent un peu, mais il doit y en avoir qui en comprennent rien, et puisque tu as fait un logiciel multilingue, ça pourrait aider de faire que ton site soit multilingue aussi.
Originally posted by Patchou
Ce n'est pas parceque j'habite au Québec que je dois parler français a 4 millions d'utilisateurs qui parlent une trentaine d'autres langues. Avoir un language universel pour parler est une excellente chose pour tout le monde.
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But of course there must be people who don't speak English, surely there should be different versions of the website, and so on? Trying to find a program in your first language on an English website is probably very difficult. I understand that English is one of the most widely spoken languages in the world, and most people learn it a bit, but there must be some who don't understand any, and since you've made a multilingual program, it could help to make your site multilingual as well.
RE: Patchou ? by frog on 02-23-2004 at 10:13 PM
do you have ny idea how hard that would be billy?
RE: Patchou ? by Patchou on 02-24-2004 at 12:43 AM
yep... unfortunately, that would be very hard. However, I plan to add multi-language support on msgplus.net in the next version of the site, and for very few selected pages only. As for the forum, I already thought about it but what's the point? nobody would ever go in the multi-lang section (IRC is a good example of that).
RE: RE: Patchou ? by zappy004 on 02-24-2004 at 02:29 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Wabz
They now use weekend to describe Saturday and Sunday as they didnt have a word for it
there is a word for weekend: "fin de semaine" it is not a word... but an expression...
but anyway... in quebec, we say one english word on two, neither english-speaking nor French-speaking (France) people can understand what we say....
and to the original poster: i agree with everybody, english is an UNIVERSAL language, so learn it if you use internet...
RE: Patchou ? by Chrono on 02-24-2004 at 02:53 AM
quote:
Originally posted by billywoods1
But of course there must be people who don't speak English, surely there should be different versions of the website, and so on? Trying to find a program in your first language on an English website is probably very difficult. I understand that English is one of the most widely spoken languages in the world, and most people learn it a bit, but there must be some who don't understand any, and since you've made a multilingual program, it could help to make your site multilingual as well.
Well, Messenger Plus! is distributed in many other sites other than msgplus.net, so u dont really need to know english, u can just google it and find a website in ur language distributing it.
There are tons of websites like mess.be in every languages
quote:This is a good idea
Originally posted by Patchou
yep... unfortunately, that would be very hard. However, I plan to add multi-language support on msgplus.net in the next version of the site, and for very few selected pages only. As for the forum, I already thought about it but what's the point? nobody would ever go in the multi-lang section (IRC is a good example of that).
RE: Patchou ? by matty on 02-24-2004 at 03:11 AM
RE: Patchou ? by billywoods1 on 02-24-2004 at 05:32 PM
quote:And find cracked/dodgy versions?
Originally posted by Chrono
u can just google it and find a website in ur language distributing it.
I realise how hard it is (to several people), but with PHP and a cookie it probably wouldn't take up too much space... or a lot of work, because there are many translators for each language? But I agree with you on the forums.
RE: Patchou ? by lizard.boy on 02-25-2004 at 01:08 AM
i think even the bable fish translation is almost enough. gfdd just has to figure out the formatting for long languages that take up more space than english
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i'd give a french translation but i dont remember anything after 8 years of french class 
RE: Patchou ? by Chrono on 02-25-2004 at 01:24 AM
quote:No not really, the online translators are very crappy, and the site would look very unprofesional with these babelfish translations
Originally posted by lizard.boy
i think even the bable fish translation is almost enough.
I would have no problem in translating the tutorials/FAQs, as i was going to translate them and make a site... but then MP!3 was announced to be released 'soon' and now i dont see the point to do it
RE: Patchou ? by Wabz on 02-25-2004 at 08:17 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Chrono
I would have no problem in translating the tutorials/FAQs, as i was going to translate them and make a site... but then MP!3 was announced to be released 'soon' and now i dont see the point to do it
It's a great idea in theory although I cant exactly see the point as Patchou said we had lots of irc channels yet the English was the only one used really
RE: Patchou ? by Chrono on 02-25-2004 at 08:35 AM
quote:Well, that's because the irc chatrooms are not easy to reach if u dont speak english, dont u think?
Originally posted by Wabz
It's a great idea in theory although I cant exactly see the point as Patchou said we had lots of irc channels yet the English was the only one used really
RE: Patchou ? by ShawnZ on 03-02-2004 at 12:39 AM
quote:LOL, EVER HEARD OF GOOGLE OR BABEL FISH?
Originally posted by billywoods1
But of course there must be people who don't speak English, surely there should be different versions of the website, and so on? Trying to find a program in your first language on an English website is probably very difficult. I understand that English is one of the most widely spoken languages in the world, and most people learn it a bit, but there must be some who don't understand any, and since you've made a multilingual program, it could help to make your site multilingual as well.
RE: Patchou ? by ShawnZ on 03-02-2004 at 12:40 AM
but dont quote me on that!
i agree, thier should be seprate servers for different languages.
just think, there will be a MsgPlus.BE
[edit] 1 what language is .be anyway? [/edit]
[edit] 2 lol, the person that started this thread sounds like my mom when she got charged too much on her shopping bill! cool it, were not trying to discriminate french or anything![/edit]
RE: Patchou ? by bach_m on 03-02-2004 at 01:01 AM
1) stop posting twice. thers an edit button, which u seem to have found
2) stop spamming
3) stop resurecting threads
RE: Patchou ? by Wabz on 03-02-2004 at 01:04 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Chrono
Well, that's because the irc chatrooms are not easy to reach if u dont speak english, dont u think?
There smaller options on the web client
I think it's a nice idea but a lot of work for someone which aint really necessary