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help me set up handwriting plugin?? by amynewks on 03-01-2004 at 04:27 PM
[b] ive downloaded handwriting plugin and i need help installing it please can someone help me???
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by Anubis on 03-01-2004 at 04:30 PM
Some info on your comp would help and what the plug-in is and where you got it from! Most the time you just bung the .dll file in C:\Program Files\Messenger Plus! 2\Plugins
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by amynewks on 03-01-2004 at 04:37 PM
downloaded it from messenger plus website and plugin called handwriting
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by Stigmata on 03-01-2004 at 04:49 PM
yes.close messenger. copy the file to your msgplus directory, then to the folder called plugins. and then restard messenger...done
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by Limo on 03-01-2004 at 05:29 PM
yes.close messenger. copy the file to your msgplus directory, then to the folder called plugins. and then restard messenger...done
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I did this and then I cant start any conversations!
RE: RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by taktikz on 03-01-2004 at 06:17 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Limo
yes.close messenger. copy the file to your msgplus directory, then to the folder called plugins. and then restard messenger...done
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I did this and then I cant start any conversations!
what windows u running? i had the exact problem, but then i found out it only works with xp.
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by amynewks on 03-01-2004 at 09:45 PM
i got windows 2000 professional
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by Hedj on 03-01-2004 at 09:58 PM
I run Windows XP, and I can't get the Handwriting plugin working either, because it disallows me to start conversations when I try to install the plugin... Yet I can't find the "Ink Redistributable" that the Handwriting plugin says I need before installation... 
Best thing to do is install InfoPen instead, go to your Messenger Plus! 2\Plugins folder, and delete the following two files when Messenger isn't open:
Developers.txt
MsnHandWriting.dll
At least then Messenger will allow you to send messages to other people. ^^; Until I find the ink redistributable, I won't be able to solve this. If anybody knows where it is or could send it to me via e-mail, Messenger or AIM, I'd be more than happy if they could. 
If they find a website with it, they could post it here so the problem is solved for everyone. 
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by noaksey on 03-02-2004 at 06:03 PM
rite ok...ive got windows ME. i get the same error about not being able to start a convo with the plugin installed (ive also installed the ink redis. thing that came in the same zip file - i have infopen but have not installed it) so can i still install this?!
cheers, chris
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by EcToX on 03-02-2004 at 06:18 PM
um ok i have win98 does it work with that or wat? i cant start any conversations with it installed! i have to go to the plus plugins folder and delete it manually. help!
RE: RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by CookieRevised on 03-02-2004 at 06:34 PM
quote:You answered your own problem. You need to install the "Ink Redistributable"...
Originally posted by Hedj
I run Windows XP, and I can't get the Handwriting plugin working either, because it disallows me to start conversations when I try to install the plugin... Yet I can't find the "Ink Redistributable" that the Handwriting plugin says I need before installation...
quote:Wrong....
Originally posted by Hedj
Best thing to do is install InfoPen instead, go to your Messenger Plus! 2\Plugins folder, and delete the following two files when Messenger isn't open:
Developers.txt
MsnHandWriting.dll
1) It isn't the best thing todo...
InfoPen is a packet that enables Ink Messages for Outlook (Express). In doing so, it has an extra feature to enable them also in MSN Messenger.
2) The plugin, is just to enable them in MSN Messenger, nothing more...
3) Did you read developers.txt? developers.txt isn't part of the plugin. It is a very short explaination for developers of how to create a plugin for Messenger Plus!. So, it is part of Messenger Plus! Evenso, a text document is a text document, nothing more. It isn't a crucial part of ANY program.
quote:Did you READ the "manual"/"readme"/"instructions"/whatever you wanna call it that comes with the plugin????????? The Ink Redistributables are within the archive itself. You don't need to find them, you already have them...
Originally posted by Hedj
Until I find the ink redistributable, I won't be able to solve this. If anybody knows where it is or could send it to me via e-mail, Messenger or AIM, I'd be more than happy if they could.
I'm sorry to sound so harsh, but I'm getting bored with people who don't read instructions that comes with something. Not understanding instructions is another thing, but you clearly didn't read them. And you don't need to be a computer-wizard to figure out you need to read instructions.
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by CookieRevised on 03-02-2004 at 06:35 PM
I appreciate the help of some people, but eh... for those who have trouble installing it... ignore all the above posts....
Windows 2000, Windows XP and Windows Server 2003
It was not designed for Windows 2000, but it may work. This means it is also possible that for your Windows 2000 system it doesn't work!
Read the "readme" that comes within the archive:
Before installing make sure you have the Ink Redistributables from Microsoft installed.
If you have installed InfoPen, these are already installed, else please see the InkRedist directory that you should have gotten with this file.
So, how to install:
1) unzip the file that you downloaded from http://www.mess.be/ into a directory. (The ZIP file should be around 2,44MB big and the version should be v1.1.) When you've unzipped it, you'll find another zip in the directory called inkredist.zip, unzip this one also...
2) Close all instances of MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger you're running completely. This means choosing "exit" when you right click on its icon in the systemtray. Just closing the contactlist window isn't enough.
3) If you don't have InfoPen installed (and you probably haven't), then run SETUP.EXE FIRST!!! You'll find this in the ZIP file (inkredist.zip) inside the ZIP file you've downloaded, so unzip this one also... On the setupscreen choose to install the redistributables for "all users"!
4) Now run INSTALLER.EXE
the plugin should be installed by now...
5) Restart your MSN Messenger and open up a conversation with someone; you should see some extra tabs beneath the text-area.
Note: The "convert" tab will not work! You need to install another DLL to activate the handwriting reconizer, see the post and thread here.
Note: After using the Ink Messenges intensively, it is possible that your MSN Messenger screws up. You need to restart MSN Messenger to fix this. There is nothing more you can do...
How to remove/uninstall it:
You can use the Handwriting Uninstaller made by Matty and Sk3tch to completely remove this plugin.
Or follow exactly these steps:
1) Close all instances of MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger you're running completely. This means choosing "exit" when you right click on its icon in the systemtray. Just closing the contactlist window isn't enough.
2) delete the file MsnHandWriting.dll from your Messenger Plus! Plugins directory. (default directory is: c:\program files\messenger plus! 2\plugins or c:\program files\messenger plus! 3\plugins)
If, for some reason, Windows tells you that it couldn't be deleted, make SURE you closed every instance of Messenger in the correct way. If you're SURE you did this, then try to kill the processes instead:
Open up your Windows Task List (CTRL-ALT-DEL for Windows XP) and:
*for windows 9x/nt look for msnmsgr.exe and msmsgs.exe - end those tasks.
*for windows xp go to the processes tab and look for msnmsgr.exe and msmsgs.exe - end those processes.
Now try to delete MsnHandWriting.dll again...
3) Go to add/remove programs in the software tab in your configuration settings. Look for "Ink"... If it exists, click it and uninstall it.
4) Go to add/remove programs in the software tab in your configuration settings. Look for "InfoPen"... If it exists, click it and uninstall it.
5) Go to add/remove programs in the software tab in your configuration settings. Look for "Windows Journal Viewer"... If it exists and you don't use it anymore for something else, click it and uninstall it.
6) Restart your computer, to make sure everything is completly removed.
EDIT: added some more detailed and updated info
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by Jimcando on 03-06-2004 at 02:46 PM
Why doesn't the convert tab work? It's really beginning to anny me.
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by bach_m on 03-06-2004 at 03:04 PM
the convert tab is only for Tablet PCs. it doesn't work on a desktop
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by yo dawg X on 03-06-2004 at 03:09 PM
make it work plz
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by bach_m on 03-06-2004 at 03:10 PM
make what work??? the convert tab?? ur computer doesn't have the software to use it. its built into WinXP tablet PC edition
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by dotNorma on 03-06-2004 at 06:20 PM
It cant be made work ok , its just not possible.
Why would you need it anyway? You have a keyboard!
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by ShawnZ on 03-06-2004 at 06:56 PM
convert tab: it would be fun to screw around with tho!
ps. how does the enabler work?
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by Jimcando on 03-06-2004 at 07:27 PM
They should make a version for tablet PCs and another one for the Desktop PC because it's completely pointless having it there. It confused me because I spent hours using it-trying to make it work!
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by ShawnZ on 03-06-2004 at 10:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Jimcando
They should make a version for tablet PCs and another one for the Desktop PC because it's completely pointless having it there. It confused me because I spent hours using it-trying to make it work!
1 its not designed for desktop pcs, only tablets. this plugin is just brining it out from inside messenger.
2 if it were official, the convert dll's would work. but its hacked, so dont expect much functionality (but its better then InfoPen!)
therefore, it does support the convert feature, just havent found out how to use it yet. so, no point in making 2 versions
3 in windows codename longhorn, the functionallity is avaible. but its only being released in 2005
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by Underlord on 03-07-2004 at 12:59 PM
Or you could get one of the leaked betas and test it on them 
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by Jimcando on 03-08-2004 at 04:38 PM
Since we're on the subject of the Handwriting Plug-in not doing things we want it to:
Does anyone know why it can't send handwritten messages when the reciever has his/her status on busy, away, etc....? In other words, hanwriten messages can only be sent when the reciever is online??
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by KnightieBoy on 03-08-2004 at 04:46 PM
quote:I just tested it on somebody with the status on Lunch, and it sent fine, don't know if they received it, but I sure did say it to them
Originally posted by Jimcando
Since we're on the subject of the Handwriting Plug-in not doing things we want it to:
Does anyone know why it can't send handwritten messages when the reciever has his/her status on busy, away, etc....? In other words, hanwriten messages can only be sent when the reciever is online??
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by Jimcando on 03-08-2004 at 05:48 PM
Hmmm, well usually it works fine for me, but for everyone that has set there status on 'Busy' or 'Away', it comes up with the message that it says when there are 3 or more people in a conversation:
"********@hotmail.com was added to this conversation. Handwriting is no longer supported because not all participants can view handwritten messages. Please start sending your messages as text."
It then automatically puts it on the Convert tab, which we all know doesn't work! Or maybe it's just my weird computer?
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by ShawnZ on 04-10-2004 at 02:17 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Jimcando
Hmmm, well usually it works fine for me, but for everyone that has set there status on 'Busy' or 'Away', it comes up with the message that it says when there are 3 or more people in a conversation:
"********@hotmail.com was added to this conversation. Handwriting is no longer supported because not all participants can view handwritten messages. Please start sending your messages as text."
It then automatically puts it on the Convert tab, which we all know doesn't work! Or maybe it's just my weird computer?
1. i found this out recently: all ppl on messenger have like an id of 2 numbers, and its like if it is a certan number they can view handwriting, or write handwritng, or they are on a mobile phone, or they are on a direct watch. so at certan times there number is not accurate to be able to recieve handwriting. dunno why.
2. it warps u to the convert tab cuz it thinks ur on a tablet and on tablets convert works. it is so u can still handwrite but it will convert it anyway cuz the person can only see text
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by ShawnZ on 04-10-2004 at 02:18 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ÐoM!
I have infopen but am not sure how to actually send the messages. I tried doin it in outlook and it worked, i tried to drag it to the conversation window but it just sent "INFOPEN".
Wot is wrong with it?
HELP PLEEZ!
dont drag infopen anywhere, just start it, enable handwriting from its right-click menu (in the system tray) and use the Handwrite tab in messenger on someone who can receve handwriting.
ps. ÐoM! ur avatar is dodgy...
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by reisyboy on 04-10-2004 at 04:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Shawnz
convert tab: it would be fun to screw around with tho!
No it wouldn't and it probably wouldnt work unless you had a tablet attached because you wouldnt be able to get your text writen with your mouse well enough to be recognised
RE: RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by takowl on 04-12-2004 at 08:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by reisyboy
... you wouldnt be able to get your text writen with your mouse well enough to be recognised
Actually, I've tried the version built into office XP, and its suprisingly capable to recognise incoherent scrawlings.
Owl
RE: RE: RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by Bob H on 06-28-2004 at 07:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
quote:You answered your own problem. You need to install the "Ink Redistributable"...
Originally posted by Hedj
I run Windows XP, and I can't get the Handwriting plugin working either, because it disallows me to start conversations when I try to install the plugin... Yet I can't find the "Ink Redistributable" that the Handwriting plugin says I need before installation...quote:Wrong....
Originally posted by Hedj
Best thing to do is install InfoPen instead, go to your Messenger Plus! 2\Plugins folder, and delete the following two files when Messenger isn't open:
Developers.txt
MsnHandWriting.dll
1) It isn't the best thing todo...
InfoPen is a packet that enables Ink Messages for Outlook (Express). In doing so, it has an extra feature to enable them also in MSN Messenger.
2) The plugin, is just to enable them in MSN Messenger, nothing more...
3) Did you read developers.txt? developers.txt isn't part of the plugin. It is a very short explaination for developers of how to create a plugin for Messenger Plus!. So, it is part of Messenger Plus! Evenso, a text document is a text document, nothing more. It isn't a crucial part of ANY program.quote:Did you READ the "manual"/"readme"/"instructions"/whatever you wanna call it that comes with the plugin????????? The Ink Redistributables are within the archive itself. You don't need to find them, you already have them...
Originally posted by Hedj
Until I find the ink redistributable, I won't be able to solve this. If anybody knows where it is or could send it to me via e-mail, Messenger or AIM, I'd be more than happy if they could.
I'm sorry to sound so harsh, but I'm getting bored with people who don't read instructions that comes with something. Not understanding instructions is another thing, but you clearly didn't read them. And you don't need to be a computer-wizard to figure out you need to read instructions.
Sir, what if the ink redistributables isn't in the zip file, as is in my case? Downloaded from both mess.be and msgplus.net? I cannot find this singularly anywhere. Would appreciate some assistance. Regards
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by Tochjo on 06-28-2004 at 07:21 PM
Indeed, apparently that file has been removed from the zip file, sorry for the confusion. You can download the Ink Redistributables from http://kaonet.net/page.php?id=75
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by CookieRevised on 06-28-2004 at 09:01 PM
quote:The ink redistributables are included in the zip file from mess.be... They always have, they always will be...
Originally posted by Bob H
Sir, what if the ink redistributables isn't in the zip file, as is in my case? Downloaded from both mess.be and msgplus.net? I cannot find this singularly anywhere. Would appreciate some assistance. Regards
Concearning the handwriting zip on www.msgplus.net, at the time of that post they were included also, it is only recently that they were taken out.
So either redownload the handwriting plugin from mess.be or use the link that Tochjo provided to get the redistributables themselfs...
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by Underlord on 06-29-2004 at 09:18 AM
quote:That attachment does not appear to exist anymore
Originally posted by CookieRevised
You can use the Handwriting Uninstaller made by Matty and Sk3tch to completely remove this plugin.
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RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by CookieRevised on 06-29-2004 at 10:37 AM
I know, for some reason (unknown to me, the uninstaller still works perfectly) TB asked to remove it...
RE: help me set up handwriting plugin?? by Underlord on 06-29-2004 at 11:35 AM
That's strange 
Maybe we can get permission to distribute it and upload it somewhere