Maybe this was posted before in here...so...

If you live in the US and you are tired that the goverment is getting involved in what you see on TV (via large fines to broadcasters, etc...), you should visit the following link..

STOP FCC

I think is a violation of Free Speech, the people should watch what they want and not being deprived of certain programs just because they're not "for good christians" (NO Offense...)

Take a look at the website, if you agree, please sign the petition...

Cheers...

I hate frickin' controling governments and I hate people who complain about what they see, they can turn it off if they want to
(thinks about amazing xbox advert)

Personally, I don't care what I see on TV, but I don't want to "stop the FCC" Free Speech can be a good thing, but it can also be a bad thing... it should be limited. You can't go into a public place and yell "fuck you" at little kids...

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Originally posted by Omaaar
just because they're not "for good christians"

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Originally posted by tomfletcherman
I hate frickin' controling governments and I hate people who complain about what they see, they can turn it off if they want to

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oh cmon, "something innapropriate"? just an accident, shit happens
not that the kids are going to be... traumatized for the rest of their lifes

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Originally posted by Chromo
oh cmon, "something innapropriate"? just an accident, shit happens

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not that the kids are going to be... traumatized for the rest of their lifes

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me gots a stop fcc banner in me sig
been there for bout a week or to now

Well, I agree, accidents happen, but lets say that wearing no more than 50grams of clothes doesn't help... if they want to do something, they should start by puting some tissues on their singers back. I'm not interested in watching semi-porn shows when I want to listen to some music.

What exactly is ment with "incident" broedcasts in this case?

Delaying shows 5 minutes is completely stupid. Accidents happen, and saying that seeing one nipple is innapropriate and semi-porn is ridiculous compared to all the other violent and sexual implications in daytime or primetime shows all over the world, particularly in news programs.

This sums up what I think about the subject, from Robert Scoble's blog:

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In my week off I realized I'm ashamed to be an American. Why is it not OK for Janet Jackson to show her boob on national TV, but it's OK for our military to show live killing of Iraqi military on TV?

Our society is screwed up.

(...)

Speaking of which, why is it OK for General Motors to make hundreds of millions of dollars off of pornography (do you realize who owns the satellites that deliver most adult videos) but it's not OK for Janet Jackson to show her boob?

Why is it OK for two out of every 10 entertainment dollars to be spent on adult entertainment in this country, but it's not OK for Janet to show her boob in a wide shot that was only on TV for a second? (Even after multiple rewinds on my 32-inch TV, I couldn't really tell if Janet had actually revealed her boob -- if it weren't for all the Internet sites like Drudge that showed high resolution pictures the next day, I still would be guessing).

Oh, I notice that DirectTV is now delivering high-definition adult videos (and started right after the Super Bowl).

Our society is so messed up. It's OK to show our kids hundreds of murders per year on TV, but it's not OK for them to see a part of the human body.

I'm ashamed to be an American this week.

UPDATE: Why is it OK for our kids to watch junk food advertising (obesity is one of the leading health problems among American kids today) but not see a boob on TV?

Why is it OK for our kids to watch beer commercials on TV (alcohol abuse and drunk driving is one of the leading health problems for teenagers today) but not see a boob on TV?

Why is it OK for our kids to watch a game where adults are allowed to brutalize one another, but it's not OK to see a boob on TV?

Yeah, my commenter's are right. Kids shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a TV set while a football game is on TV. The halftime show isn't even close to the leading reasons why.

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Originally posted by WDZ
You can't go into a public place and yell "fuck you" at little kids... [/qutoe]

and why not?

im in england and when u think about it any type of program should be on at any time wheather you choose to watch it is your opinion

its just like when spooks was on

a woman got her head put in chip fat, after that a shit load of people sent them stuff complaining

in my opinion they are a fuck load of pussys they iddint have to watch spooks no1 forced them too

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When did this country turn Communist?[/qutoe]

[comedy]this was on that site and it makes sence why cant janet jackson get her boobs out in public its her right as a american[/comedy]

on a more serios note peopel who complain about what they se on tv are idiots if they dont like it switch off

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Originally posted by MenthiX
What exactly is ment with "incident" broedcasts in this case?

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Keep in mind that the FCC does alot more then just regulate TV. They regulate Radio, Cell Phones, Fax, Land Line Phones, Modem Speeds... They have a controll for everything. Not all of it is bad, but alot of it needs some review and change for the current century.

I already thought about this and i think if US people dont do nothing they are at risk i dont care about coz its their problem but well im going to that site coz i hate violations of freedom of expression.
2 days ago i found one site about that take a look:
http://www.ifex.org/

Edit: i cant sin it i dont live at usa lol sorry

Yeah, I have FCC logos beveled on almost any electronic appliance at my house (phones, cellphones, computers...) and I live 1000s of kms away from the US

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Originally posted by PT_KiD
I already thought about this and i think if US people dont do nothing they are at risk

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I also tend to agree that too much violence and sex on every channel is not a good idea. I'm only 23 and I'm already getting tired of looking at Britney almost-completely-naked body in her last clip. As WDZ said, there's already more than enough ways to see violence and sex on our screen.

Adding delays to live shows won't change a thing.. as I said in my previosu post, let's just be honnest and let's ask the singers to stop:

• appearing naked on tv to get some audience
  
• Talking like the worst retarded morons on subjects like women or racial issues, just to get some publicity (and then say that it's for "provocation only"... I so hate that

Television in England is lewd and boring everyone seems to be getting fixed on Gay couples kissing, sexual relationships of all kinds.  And then some of our most famous managers become racist because there names haventy been mentioned in the papers for 3 weeks.

I personally dont watch that much Television but what i do watch i hate and dislike what I see

well there not only cracking down on TV programs, but also radio.  i could care less about TV, its me radio that me wants.

a few weeks after the ancident my favorite radio station had to completly redo there programing, switch DJ times and stuff just becus the FCC is stricting the policy.  my moms favorite program got supended for 2 weeks for just memtioning the jackson incident on air, then there time dely wasnt' workn right and the supend again, the they had to go "G" rating, which was a big change for the show.

* martin wants Bubba the Love Sponge back

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Originally posted by WDZ

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Originally posted by PT_KiD
Less sex and violence/profanity on TV? Fine with me...

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boobs and violence makes tv great what would be more fittign to say to someone

i will use the tracy v roy argument off corination street:

original:

"i dont give a flying friut roy"

what we should of heard:

"shut the fuck up roy u nob jockey, i dont give a shit" (sory for swearing excessively)

u see swearwords enhance the emotion

now who here who isnt bent or female wants to see LESS boobs and violence

id rather see a violent boob filled swearing program than a fruity "can i take your coat ma'am" programme

thats just my opinion whats yours?

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Originally posted by Wabz
Television in England is lewd and boring everyone seems to be getting fixed on Gay couples kissing, sexual relationships of all kinds.  And then some of our most famous managers become racist because there names haventy been mentioned in the papers for 3 weeks.

I personally dont watch that much Television but what i do watch i hate and dislike what I see

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Originally posted by WDZ

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Originally posted by PT_KiD
I already thought about this and i think if US people dont do nothing they are at risk

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At risk?

What is the risk? Less sex and violence/profanity on TV? Fine with me... there's more than enough of it already. If I want to see sex, I have my internet connection, and if I want to see violence/profanity, I can rent a movie.

I doubt TV will be any less entertaining or interesting if the FCC enforces rules more strongly...

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u see swearwords enhance the emotion

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id rather see a violent boob filled swearing program than a fruity "can i take your coat ma'am" programme

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Originally posted by PT_KiD
See if u can understand.. Now its tv radio etc tomorrow..everything

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Originally posted by PT_KiD
the point is that u are being prohibitted to watch something because the governement doesnt want you to

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you are not free to decide, thats not freedom.

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Originally posted by WDZ
No. Television stations are being prohibited from broadcasting certain things. Big difference, IMO.

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Ah, the free speech and morals debate.

Example one, I don't see anyone sending about petitions for the freedom to kill people, simply cause its morally wrong; (for most people).

Now you have to draw a line were stuff we see/hear is morally wrong, as a government that are elected. They do that to what they see fit.

People seem to think that the government can get away with it all, but with the power of the media in many developed countries, (sorry, not too hot on others); the government are restricted to what they can show simply because they would be ridiculed otherwise.

Sometimes I think the media influences government decisions too much and this maybe is its fight-back.

My two pence.

Ok.. not my probe i dont live at USA and im not pretending to.
Europe is more interesting, pretty and free but if something like that started on my country.. i would be capable of almost everything to give freedom to my country.

2 days ago (25 april) it made  30 years since portugal is free from someone like saddam(Salazar)(NOT the same same same) u were not free to blame your life condition, salazar, to read what u want, watch , hear.. everything passed by the guys before u can watch read..ect
On USA, with this is hapenning u can stop calling ur country a democratic one u can agree with all the things that FCC is doing but with it ur country stops being democratic.

Havent you just summed up the argument against this "free speech" thing?

Outlining that country for having disciplines on free speech doesn't make it a communist state. The fact this petition exists proves it isn't.

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Originally posted by PT_KiD
Whats the big difference..?

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Originally posted by Johnny_Mac
Now you have to draw a line were stuff we see/hear is morally wrong, as a government that are elected. They do that to what they see fit.

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Originally posted by PT_KiD
On USA, with this is hapenning u can stop calling ur country a democratic one u can agree with all the things that FCC is doing but with it ur country stops being democratic.

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Originally posted by Johnny_Mac
Outlining that country for having disciplines on free speech doesn't make it a communist state. The fact this petition exists proves it isn't.

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heres soemthign bout radio

the pete price show is on at 10 o clcok and the caller cant swaer cos the radio station will get in shit

what a laod of bollocks do u agree on this pollicy

I think what this is about is who's going to make the decision about what's right and what's wrong to broadcast? I know is the FCC, but in the end is a person who makes the decision...

I mean, what's morally wrong for you may not be wrong for me... so what gives you the right to impose your morality to me... you know what i mean...?

You want "safer TV" for your kids to watch? Maybe you should stop using TV as an "electronic nanny" and spending more quality time with your kids...

Nudity and profanity are no-brainers, what i'm concerned is the finer things...such as expresing ideas or points of view..., first is TV & Radio...then what? Newspapers? the Internet? the first amendment protects American citizens/residents to say what they want... you can just change the channel or turn off the TV... you are not obligated to watch these shows or "Britney almost naked in her last video"

With this i'm not saying that porn channels should be in the networks ok...?

The First Amendment read as follows...

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"

Cheers...

Nice post.

Apart from...

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Originally posted by Omaaar
Maybe you should stop using TV as an "electronic nanny" and spending more quality time with your kids...

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There is a very strong difference between Free Speech and Indecent things being said. Indecent is in my opinion clearly offensive and I would not like this to be on any media. Anyone in the UK will surely remember Kilroy who lost his TV Talk Show due to a newspaper article he gave about his opinions about the Islam extremists...In some ways he was saying what a lot of people were thinking but I don't believe that should be classed as indecent in my opinion...

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Originally posted by Omaaar
I mean, what's morally wrong for you may not be wrong for me... so what gives you the right to impose your morality to me... you know what i mean...?

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Nudity and profanity are no-brainers, what i'm concerned is the finer things...such as expresing ideas or points of view...,

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first is TV & Radio...then what? Newspapers? the Internet? the first amendment protects American citizens/residents to say what they want... you can just change the channel or turn off the TV... you are not obligated to watch these shows or "Britney almost naked in her last video"

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With this i'm not saying that porn channels should be in the networks ok...?

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The First Amendment read as follows...

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"

Cheers...

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Originally posted by Guido

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Originally posted by Omaaar
I mean, what's morally wrong for you may not be wrong for me... so what gives you the right to impose your morality to me... you know what i mean...?

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What's morally wrong for you may not be morally wrong for me... so what gives you the right to condemn me if I kill someone?

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Maybe you should stop using TV as an "electronic nanny"

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Originally posted by Omaaar
With all due respect, but you're out of it if you compare censorship with murder....

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Censorship is a very dangerous thing, it starts withn very little, and before you know it you give away a lot of your personal freedoms...

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I used to lived in Mexico, and I know about Goverment-controled TV...(it sucks ), since we had the 70 years of a party's dicatorship...

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and all the music in the charts is a load of shit

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Originally posted by TomorrowsNobody
omar u deserve a high 5

hit the nail on the head

thats why kids theese days are so fucked up

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