Who here uses an alternative to IE? Please also post your reasons.

I use IE becuause is a custom that I have
And also, even more people stop use M$ software (like IE); I like M$ beleive it or not

i wouldn't use another browser to spite Microsoft... i dunno why everyone is against microsoft... alot off you buy / burn there Operating Systems.. download there products, so dont hate M$ they may have a few bugs here and everywhere, but who cares?  they made the first program to run on a computer!  it's better then DOS right?

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Originally posted by lylesback2
i dunno why everyone is against microsoft... alot off you buy / burn there Operating Systems.. download there products, so dont hate M$

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i got nothing against microsoft, or IE, i just prefere using Firefox, it has tabbed browsing etc etc.

I use Avant because this 2 reasons:
[*] It uses the IE engine, which means that most pages in the web will displayed as they were designed (most pages are designed to be well viewed with IE, and their webmasters forget about other browsers). Also, there are pages (like http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com ) that only can be viewed with a IE compatible browser

[*]It has tabs and helps me in having all the opened pages clean and tidy. When I'm at the uni, I use netscape instead of IE just for this reason. Netscape has tabs and IE doen't. It's a feature I like very much.

[*]There are some other reasons more (mouse clicks, etc...), but they aren't as important as those 2 ones.

I use Firefox 0.8 for many reasons.

It blocks pop-ups , and the many endless possibilities given to me with plug-ins allow all sorts of things. I also find that it loads pages fast than Internet Explorer can and the way it loads images is great also.

I also enjoy the skinnable interface which is a must have for a skin freak like me. And Tabs can't forget them

me uses avants to. it looks lots better, the tab, ad blocking, pop blocker, and all the goodies

I used IE for years, then when .hta exploits and the like started comming out and I could get a virus just by going to a legitimate page, or spyware that was like a plague(CWS -google search it, add's porno crap on every login, almost impossible to get rid of) I used to get a virus at least once every 2 days without even downloading stuff. Then I switched to mozilla suite, haven't had a virus or spyware since.

Well, since I'm a tech freak at my school, I use all the best stuff. Basically everything my IT department doesn't support, such as SP2. Boy, am I glad I upgraded when the Sasser virus came around.

The above was . Now onto the real stuff.

IE has WAY too many security holes. I only use it for Windows Update. Since Mozilla is like Netscape on steroids, I don't get nearly half as much crap as my classmates. I've even converted a few over to Mozilla. Also, Mozilla has limitless features, such as tabbed browsing etc.






SO MICROSOFT!!

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Originally posted by Chaotic_Shield
SO MICROSOFT!!

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I found some nice links:

http://ashitaka-san.home.comcast.net/yayrant/ieharmful.html
http://www.yohng.com/iebad.html
http://www.opera.com/whyopera/

Please don't start Opera <-> Mozilla! I think most ppl here now my opinions (*cough*), but it would really damage the thread

I think that you can't consider Avant, or something like it an alternative, because it uses IE, and therefore is insecure, and will still give you #### spyware. Also it does not follow the standards. Those IE 'patches' also make me wonder something: If IE is such a great browser, why do we need to add all these features with a "patch"? Why didn't MS add it themselves, whereas most modern browsers are more secure as IE and have handy features as pop-up blockers and tabs, and .... (because of a maximum character limit, I am not able to sum up why Opera and Mozilla are better than IE. Sorry! )

Everyone using IE should really start using opera and/or Mozilla (Firefox)! Both are great browsers, and the argument that not all sites will load without IE is bullshit. If there is one, and you *really* need to use it, you can still use IE. A browser change is a very easy thing to do. Bookmarks and things can be imported. IMO, there's really no reason to stay with IE, except for "it was installed when I bought the PC", which btw proves how MS is misusing their monopoly.

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Since Mozilla is like Netscape on steroids

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Originally posted by Chrono

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Originally posted by lylesback2
i dunno why everyone is against microsoft... alot off you buy / burn there Operating Systems.. download there products, so dont hate M$

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i dont use IE, i use avant... but i dont have any problem with internet explorer

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I think that you can't consider Avant, or something like it an alternative, because it uses IE, and therefore is insecure, and will still give you #### spyware. Also it does not follow the standards. Those IE 'patches' also make me wonder something: If IE is such a great browser, why do we need to add all these features with a "patch"?

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I use IE cuz of just one reason, because most of the sites are desigend to be best viewed on IE, other then than that, i use  tool bar to Block popups, google searchin, mail checkin. And to tell the truth, i dont like Microsoft even if i like IE. Also, i just want one thin more in IE, Tabbs!

I use Opera because of the integrated IRC-chat, popup blocker and tabbed browsing.

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Originally posted by Guido

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Since Mozilla is like Netscape on steroids

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huh? Netscape is Mozilla with AOL links and bundles, Mozilla is not Netscape on steroids, Mozilla is the basis of Netscape.

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Originally posted by stonesour
Netscape is NOT based off mozilla.

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Mozilla suite was built off an earlier version of netscape

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    quote:Mozilla suite was built off an earlier version of netscape

Nope, wrong. Mozilla suite was a complete rewrite of an early version of Netscape (4). It was not built off it.


Wrong, the early versions of Mozilla were built of netscape, then later on Mozilla was completely rewritten.

Don't tell me I'm going to have to go search the mozilla site for this...

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Netscape 7.1 is based on Mozilla 1.4. Both applications share almost the identical features, such as tabbed browsing, custom keywords, and Sidebar. Exceptions are additions of proprietary features such as the support for Netscape WebMail and AOL mail. In general, Netscape 7 and Mozilla will display Web pages and read mail the same.

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Originally posted by Guido

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Since Mozilla is like Netscape on steroids

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huh? Netscape is Mozilla with AOL links and bundles, Mozilla is not Netscape on steroids, Mozilla is the basis of Netscape.

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Originally posted by Chrono

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Originally posted by lylesback2
i dunno why everyone is against microsoft... alot off you buy / burn there Operating Systems.. download there products, so dont hate M$

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i dont use IE, i use avant... but i dont have any problem with internet explorer

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I can't believed you converted

* Guido remembers convincing him to stop using IE

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Avant Browser is a standalone application designed to expand services provided by Microsoft Internet Explorer.

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I think that you can't consider Avant, or something like it an alternative, because it uses IE, and therefore is insecure, and will still give you #### spyware. Also it does not follow the standards. Those IE 'patches' also make me wonder something: If IE is such a great browser, why do we need to add all these features with a "patch"?

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Could you read that first sentence and explaining how the hell did you reach to that conclusion?

Avant uses IE --> it's insecure --> magically gives you #### spyware --> it's not an alternative.

Wow, that's power of deduction.

The fact that they use IE's rendering engine doesn't make them the same program. They are alternatives. And much better than Firefox or others, IMO.

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Is Avant Browser a secure browser?


Yes, Avant Browser is secure. Since it's based on Internet Explorer, Avant Browser is as secure as Internet Explorer. Avant Browser supports all SSL secured websites. Avant Browser's encryption length is the same as Internet Explorer's.

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How does Avant Browser work?


Based on services provided by Microsoft Internet Explorer, Avant Browser renders and navigates HTML.

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Who said IE is "such a great browser"? Even Microsoft knows that's not true. You should read MS employees' blogs more often, there's a lot of talk about IE lately.

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It's hard just to switch from Windows to Macintosh or Linux, hard for your business and workflow, but a browser switch is easy and doesn't involve any expenses.

In case you will find that Mozilla doesn't work for some sites, you always can launch Internet Explorer at the same time.

I'm primarily using free Mozilla browser. I would recommend you to install Firebird browser, which is the same as Mozilla, but without the mail client.

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Wrong, the early versions of Mozilla were built of netscape, then later on Mozilla was completely rewritten.

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Thats what I've found so far

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Am I wrong now saying that Avant is an application which makes IE better, but still uses IE?

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I mean that you're always saying "Don't use Opera! Use Avant!

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Originally posted by Guido
[netscape/mozilla]

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Am I wrong now saying that Avant is an application which makes IE better, but still uses IE?

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Yes. Avant is better than IE, but uses IE's rendering engine (mshtml.dll) to render pages.

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I mean that you're always saying "Don't use Opera! Use Avant!

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And where exactly did I say that?

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Opera is a great browser, which has since 7.0 an horrible bug that makes it impossible to run in any computer with many fonts or with Adobe's type manager installed, and therefore I have no chance of using it.

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Firebox is too simple for me, and Mozilla is too complex.

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Avant has all the features I need, renders most pages correctly (because everyone is forced to make them compatible with IE), never caused me any security problems (even though IE is more targeted with attacks due to its user base, I never had any problem), runs fast, is customisable, etc. etc. etc.

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I still hate IE because I'm a web developer and have to go through its bugs in a regular basis. Using another browser won't help with that, so I just use what I'm more comfortable with.

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No, I'm not lazy to switch, I tested and have installed in the same machine, and use regularly for testing pages:
-IE 6.0
-IE 5.0 SP2
-IE 4.0
-IE 3.0
-Firefox 0.8
-Mozilla 1.6+
-Opera 7.5

And I still prefer Avant. I also tried MyIE, and I prefer Avant.

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I use Firefox. it's faster, have tabs, block pop-ups, themes and extensions.

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Who here uses an alternative to IE? Please also post your reasons.

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Originally posted by Chaotic_Shield
Who here uses an alternative to IE? Please also post your reasons.

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IE is most commonly used (I use it), but it's mainly because it comes with all Windows PCs (and is hard to remove)

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compatibility (most websites are designed to function and display best with IE)

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and ease of use (it browses the web, but hasn't got lots of extra features like Netscape for example).

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Another plus is that it is built into the operating system so loads very quickly, and does not eat up system resource like many other browsers.

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i dont use ie and it doesnt stink what stupid reasons but i dont use ie cause i use firefox its sooo good!

what does using a different browser have to do with microsoft?

I use MYIE. I guess it is a perfect to browse internet.

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Originally posted by jackass_wanabe
what does using a different browser have to do with microsoft?

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but still ?? ie isnt excatly everyones browser......

i use firefox

with 'Alternate Browsers', Chaotic_Shield means other browser than IE, which has >95% of the browser market.

I used MSN Explorer, but because of no updates I switched to IE. Where is the choice: Yes, but I don't like Microsoft (even if I use their products and think that they own?

I use my own web browser I made in VB, It's called Speed
Surf.

I use MyIE2. Is a great program.

I cannot be bothered to try other browsers.

I have tried the following browsers:

•IE: Like, not my dominant browser now however
•CrazyBrowser: Good, minimal browser, excellent pop-up killer, not much room for add-ons though (as far as I remember)
•Avant: Tried it, didn't like it. I was too used to CrazyBrowser.
•MyIE2: Current browser, IMO, best browser out there.
•Firefox: Oh my god, I've never seen a worse browser in my life. I dispise this browser with all of my computer loving heart.

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Originally posted by DJeX
I use my own web browser I made in VB, It's called Speed
Surf.

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