Hi!
I made this small program that can check translations for duplicate hotkeys (i.e. &Change and &Confirm), and inspired by Choli's great Translator I decided to make it commonwealth. I hope that some translators will make good use of it.
I wrote in it .NET since it's the new tool, and supports complex languages as well. There were some other reasons as well, but they are obsolete now
Please let me know what do you think about it.

Current version:
1.1.3 - 17.05.2004 21:00
-Added dropdown list so if a file does not display properly you can adjust encoding. I hope this will be the last bugfix release!

1.1.2 - 15.05.2004 21:30 - 37 times
-Fixed: National characters not displaying.

1.0.1 - 15.05.2004 20:00 - 8 times
-Initial release.

Known issues:
-Unlikely to run without .NET Framework (this cannot be fixed, as this is the very essence of .NET applications). Get it from Windows Update (a few megs) or standalone installer (23 megs) from Microsoft.
-Since it uses a general algorithm it will make some false positives, and also miss some mistakes. It would need some kind of "definitions file" for every Plus! version which includes structure of menus etc. It is useful for a crude testing though.

It's nice that someone has finally taken on the job of making an ampersand checker... I find it very hard to do manually.

If it's possible to make a program that checks for ampersand conflicts, wouldn't it also be possible to make a program that sets the ampersands entirely automatic?

Btw, it won't display the three Danish characters Æ/æ, Ø/ø and Å/å.

/Zred

Great, great, great!! Thanks a lot! This will save me a LOT of work! Judging from Anders', (a.k.a. ZrednaZ) letter, the programme will probably have problems with our Swedish umlauts as well: å/Å, ä/Ä and ö/Ö

Edit: Hmmm... "Could not initiate the programme correctly (0xc0000135). Click on OK to terminate the programme."

About not displaying characters: Try saving your files with Unicode encoding, then opening them with the program. I have the unicode version of your translations included with Plus! and they display fine.

Leif: Do you have .NET Framework? It is required by all .NET based programs, nothing can be done about it . It's Microsoft's official new platform featuring a hell lot of improvements. If VB6 had worked I wouldn't have used this great new technology . You can get it from Windows Update or from this link:.NET Framework 1.1 if you have a large bandwidth and wish to download the standalone installer (23 megs). The .NET comes bundled with .NET development apps, Windows Srv 2003 and some office 2003 apps.

Excellent program! however, you should add some internal exceptions for some sections (you can see what I mean by running the program on the english file, it detects some conflicts but some text in the same section can be displayed in different windows/menus that do not conflict with each other).

Thanks for this very useful tool!
Patchou

Thanks! .NET Framework and Unicode finally did it! "End of the document reached."

New version: all characters should display without messing with unicode. .NET Framework cannot be fixed, thats a feature not a bug...

Hmmm...
Version 1.1.2 Swedish (ANSI): 9 duplicate hotkeys
Version 1.1.2 Swedish (Unicode): 0 duplicate hotkeys

How come?

It might be that your your national characters look the same  in ANSI but their character codes are different so the prg doesnt consider them same. You could search to one of them and see if some characters looking the same are not found in the search. Anyway, please send me the two files to shunter@freemail.hu (i tested the app many times on my ansi hungarian also full of special characters, and it worked all right...)

I've tried to mail you my Swedish translation in ANSI and in Unicode but the letters keep bouncing back.

Here is my second letter to you (which also bounced):

"Thanks (again) for a great tool! Some minor nags, though ..
Hotkey Checker flagged these as duplicates. But I intentionally duplicated them. They appear on toggling buttons and this way I can use the SAME hotkey to Play (&Spela) and Stop (&Stoppa) the sound file. And to Play (S&pela) and Stop (Sto&ppa) the other sound file. I thought I was pretty smart there! 
PlayButtonSignin=&Spela
PlayButtonSignout=S&pela
StopButtonSignin=&Stoppa
StopButtonSignout=Sto&ppa"

Leif, yeah, that's exactly watch Patchou said in his post:

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Originally posted by Patchou
you should add some internal exceptions for some sections (you can see what I mean by running the program on the english file, it detects some conflicts but some text in the same section can be displayed in different windows/menus that do not conflict with each other).

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Not exactly. My example is displayed in the same window (and it does not occur in a menu); the text is displayed on a button that toggles between two states. That is the reason I mentioned this particular case. Easy to miss, I thought.

I'll try to add some "intelligence" to it for such cases, I think it should not be so hard to do with filters.
About bouncing back letters: the freemail.hu server is off line, it keeps breaking down when it was most important. Send it to farkasb@jedlik.hu please, that is my school server. That *should* work.
And thanks for everyone's help!

yes, it's exactly the same though it is exactly what Patchou means

Anyways, if it could be solved, that would be nice. (I can think of a way/method, much work though because of all the exceptions (and possible changes in the futur)) But if it isn't, then it isn't a big deal IMO. Better safe then sorry

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Originally posted by ZrednaZ
If it's possible to make a program that checks for ampersand conflicts, wouldn't it also be possible to make a program that sets the ampersands entirely automatic?

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another release, all encoding problem should be fixed now. if the auto detection fails simply switch to unicode encoding.

Hey! the idea is good and the program is usefull, however I see problems (as patchou said). There are sections like [IMWindowMenu] that have several levels of menus and so you can repeat shortcut keys and they aren't wrong. There are other sections, like [InstallCommon] where you have 2 buttons that won't be never displayed together ("&Close" and "&Cancell") so they can have the same letter. Also there are values that are used in several menus, (specially in the 3 menus that plus adds to the chat windows (the plus menu, the enhenced one, and the other that is shown when you click the button next to the bolck one ). I mean, those "&" should be checked with other keys from other sections


well, with all this I don't want you drop the proyect. In fact it's a good program that can be very useful. Continue the great work

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Originally posted by Shunter
Since VB6 had numerous issues concerning Unicode files

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Originally posted by Shunter
and it seems impossible to make it scroll to a certain point in a TextBox or RichTextBox (if someone knows a way, please email me!),

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code:

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Text1.SelStart = 2
Text1.SelLength = 2
Text1.SetFocus

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RichTextBox1.SelStart = 2
RichTextBox1.SelLength = 2
RichTextBox1.SetFocus

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
That would be a very bad idea... This will result in very crappy translations. The ampersand should be placed in a logical manner by a human. For example: "&Cancel Transfer" (first letter in sentence, first letter of main word) or "Cancel &Transfer" and not "Ca&ncel Transfer" (because c and a were already in use?)

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Quick note about VB: Visual Basic works entirely in Unicode internally. I'm not a VB programmer so I can't help you much, however, I can tell you that when VB gives you an ANSI string, that's because it converted it

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Originally posted by Choli
I know, but it is possible write a program that handles unicode files (my translator does )

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Originally posted by Choli
Text1.SelStart = 2
Text1.SelLength = 2
Text1.SetFocus

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Originally posted by Patchou
Quick note about VB: Visual Basic works entirely in Unicode internally.

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Originally posted by Shunter
Yeah, i read a lot about your program and i decided that i'll try .NET instead of APIs...

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Originally posted by Shunter

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Originally posted by Choli
Text1.SelStart = 2
Text1.SelLength = 2
Text1.SetFocus

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I'm like and ... i spent 2 hours looking for such an expression in MSDN library, with no result... that's when i decided to use .NET. I believed SetFocus is only useful to give a control focus, and the library did not mention that it had a very useful another use...
But at least i'm slightly experienced in .NET now, too

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Originally posted by Patchou
Quick note about VB: Visual Basic works entirely in Unicode internally.

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... however with common expressions or using FSO it does not like opening unicode files. there is a ANSI->Unicode conversion function StrConv, and with it i could kick it to life, but the scrolling problem still remained.

Now i see that it was not VB6 that lacked ability, but me
I'll try and make some filters to add some intelligence to the app.
Thanks for all the help!

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Originally posted by Choli
btw, what has the scrolling thingy to do with ansi/unicode? I don't see any problem with scrolling.

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Originally posted by Shunter
Hi!
I made this small program that can check translations for duplicate hotkeys (i.e. &Change and &Confirm), and inspired by Choli's great Translator I decided to make it commonwealth. I hope that some translators will make good use of it.
I wrote in it .NET since it's the new tool, and supports complex languages as well. There were some other reasons as well, but they are obsolete now
Please let me know what do you think about it.

Current version:
1.1.3 - 17.05.2004 21:00
-Added dropdown list so if a file does not display properly you can adjust encoding. I hope this will be the last bugfix release!

1.1.2 - 15.05.2004 21:30 - 37 times
-Fixed: National characters not displaying.

1.0.1 - 15.05.2004 20:00 - 8 times
-Initial release.

Known issues:
-Unlikely to run without .NET Framework (this cannot be fixed, as this is the very essence of .NET applications). Get it from Windows Update (a few megs) or standalone installer (23 megs) from Microsoft.

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err... why do you need it? it is extremely uncommon to lend sourcecodes

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Originally posted by Shunter
err... why do you need it? it is extremely uncommon to lend sourcecodes

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Something like this I presume:

1) search and read for a ini-topic
  2) read an (string) ini-values of a that ini-topic.
    3) search where the ampersand is in the string
    4) compare it with the ampersands in the array
    5) if not found, store it in the array
    6) if found, show it
  7) repeat from (2) until you got all ini-values of a certain ini-topic
  8) clear the array.
9) proceed with the next topic (1) until every topic has been handled

10) print "hello world"

Well, almost.
1, Read next character
2, If character is "]", clear collision array
3, If character is linebreak:
   3a, Check next character
   3b, If next character is linebreak, clear collision array
4, If character is "&":
   4a, Check next character
   4b, If not Space or &,
       4ba, If already in collision array, stop
       4bb, If not in collision array, add
5, If no next character, print "y0 y0 y0"

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Originally posted by Shunter
2, If character is "]", clear collision array
3, If character is linebreak:
   3a, Check next character
   3b, If next character is linebreak, clear collision array

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code:

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[topic1]
key11=h&ello world
key12=[test]
key13=mor&e text

[topic2]
key21=yep th&is is topic number 2

key22=and mambo number f&ive

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............[topic1].................
.......key11=h&ello world
key12=[test]
............key13=mor&e text..........
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...[topic2]

...........................key21=yep th&is is topic number 2
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........key22=and mambo number f&ive

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
[topic2]
key21=yep th&is is topic number 2

key22=and mambo number f&ive

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Originally posted by Shunter
although the ampersands do not collide (the two menus are not displayed at the same time). Until filters are set up i found newline checking as an alternate solution to stop (at least reduce) false collisions.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
PS: about the ], you're right, it isn't used (yet)... but who says no one can use [ and ] instead of ( and ) for example in a translation? example: the key strokes in IRC style shortcuts, someone could use "[ctrl]+[b]" for example (which is another common way of writing keystrokes, and there are more examples to give...)

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as soon as the goddamn german exam is ok i'll see to it