I have tried unchecking the option to have messenger plus automatically startup when computer loads, and have attempted taking plus out of my start up programs as well. the only times i manage to succesfully remove plus from startup, it uninstalls completely. It is always running in the backround even after I have exited out of my msn, and i would like to find a way to stop it from running when I am not using messenger. Is there any way I can do this?

Why do you want to remove it from startup? It needs to be active in order to hook correctly.

start | run
type "msconfig"
and then go to Start up, and disable (1 or 2?) msgplus'... enjoy

I thought would reappear there later if you just delete that...

how would it "reappear"
that works fine

Though u shouldnt really disable it from startup...

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Originally posted by lopardo
I thought would reappear there later if you just delete that...

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Originally posted by lylesback2
start | run
type "msconfig"
and then go to Start up, and disable (1 or 2?) msgplus'... enjoy

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I deleted the Plus key in my Registry under
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run"
Thanks Cookie. I had tried using "msconfig.exe" and it had stopped it from starting up, but i did not wish to always use the alternative start up sequence.  Works fine now, I just start up Plus before I open my MSN and Ctrl-Alt-Del "end task" Plus when I am done. Wish there was a simpler way to exit plus, but this works fine and Thanks for the help.

what's wrong with MSCONFIG? , you can check which programs to start up when you boot your computer. Untill now, the only program that persisted in starting itself up is Quicktime (damn, I hate the stubborness of that program )

I didnt say anything was wrong with it, it did work and stopped Plus from loading on start up, it was just that everytime you start your computer a message pops up informing you that you are using an alternative start up sequence. I just preferred editting it out of the registry so that I could use my normal start up instead.

why not make a loader? that would be awesome. one that loads msgplus, then msn, and when msn is terminated it terminates msgplus

I didn't say you said it was wrong . I often change something in MSCONFIG and when I reboot I get that message too, but I only receive it once. There's nothing wrong with the alternative start up. In this start up you just choose what to start up at a boot and what not. Everything necessary for Windows will start up. In a normal start up everything is loaded (unless you delete the keys offcourse from the registry but most users don't know about that).

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Originally posted by Millenium_edition
why not make a loader? that would be awesome. one that loads msgplus, then msn, and when msn is terminated it terminates msgplus

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What's the problem with Plus! being in the start up folder? It's easy and doesn't use much space or memory at start up. If you would make a loader to terminate Plus! when MSN Messenger is being terminated the loader will be using memory too, so in that way you'll be using more memory than without the loader.

You got a point there. But not all loaders take memory ?

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Originally posted by Millenium_edition
You got a point there. But not all loaders take memory ?

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i understand all of this, but how do i make a loader to load and exit msn and plus both together?

well you can do it using visual basic... but as kryptonate said, it will take memory.

In the past there are loaders made by various people. People who programmed for the first time, people who had good experience. Also, different kind of loaders; loaders which simple startup msgplus and messenger and then quit. Or loaders which poll the memory to check on the status of messenger, etc... etc...

I've tested them all... all failed at one point or another (memory usage, polygamy, switching between winmsgr/msnmsgr, starting up with things like jnrzloader, etc.. etc...)

The best thing you can do IMO is to make a small VBS script which loads plus!, waits a few seconds (2 secs is more then enough) and then starts messenger (or jnrzloader for that matter), and that's it, after that it quits. Then you can startup Messenger and Plus! together with 1 click....
(the small vbs script can be found also somewhere on this forum)

Note: that all this isn't recommended by Patchou and it is on your own risk! Plus! is meant to be started up at bootup...

the one by hah works fine here