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plus 3 by ZeroG on 06-02-2004 at 02:02 PM
i like plus! 3. lots of improvements.
If im not wrong then you can't get to the preferences window from a conversation anymore (used to be able to from Plus!\Quick Texts). any chance of having that (or something similar) back?
The size of the setup file keeps increasing..perhaps Patchou could use an exe packer like UPX? but then again most of the DLLs seem to be resources.
Its good that you can't just keep clicking next and accidentally install the sponsor anymore. however having the word ACCEPT in caps seems to make peopl think that they should accept. i would suggest putting REFUSE in caps or something like NOT INSTALL SPONSOR, which might make it even clearer?
personally i don't care because i read everything carefully, but might prevent more people from installing it without intending to).
RE: plus 3 by Kryptonate on 06-02-2004 at 02:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by ZeroG
If im not wrong then you can't get to the preferences window from a conversation anymore (used to be able to from Plus!\Quick Texts). any chance of having that (or something similar) back?
/config
RE: plus 3 by Anubis on 06-02-2004 at 02:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by ZeroG
i would suggest putting REFUSE in caps or something like NOT INSTALL SPONSOR, which might make it even clearer?
Actually I think that's a good idea, I know it would stop on the amount of people skipping through the installation and making unfounded accusations about Patchou being an internet pirate who makes spyware...
RE: plus 3 by MC Inferno on 06-02-2004 at 03:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Anubis
quote: Originally posted by ZeroG
i would suggest putting REFUSE in caps or something like NOT INSTALL SPONSOR, which might make it even clearer?
Actually I think that's a good idea, I know it would stop on the amount of people skipping through the installation and making unfounded accusations about Patchou being an internet pirate who makes spyware...
Thats true, but I dont think it could be much more clearer then it is. If they ignore it at this point, they'll ignore it all the time. Also, some people are gonna want it, its that sponsor program that gets Patch his cash
RE: plus 3 by Choli on 06-02-2004 at 03:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by ZeroG
If im not wrong then you can't get to the preferences window from a conversation anymore (used to be able to from Plus!\Quick Texts). any chance of having that (or something similar) back?
apart from /config as Kryptonate said, you can also use /sconfig and if you don't like commands, use the enhanced plus menu and select send a pre-recorded message > edit the quick text list
quote: Originally posted by ZeroG
The size of the setup file keeps increasing..perhaps Patchou could use an exe packer like UPX? but then again most of the DLLs seem to be resources.
the language files, the main executable, the aditional dlls and the sponsor program are compressed in ZIP into the setup program. It keeps increasing due to the new sounds, new grafics and new features. Also note that patchou care about the size. He changed something in the code that let him remove some dll that makes the setup package about 350 Kb smaller
quote: Originally posted by ZeroG
Its good that you can't just keep clicking next and accidentally install the sponsor anymore. however having the word ACCEPT in caps seems to make peopl think that they should accept. i would suggest putting REFUSE in caps or something like NOT INSTALL SPONSOR, which might make it even clearer?
personally i don't care because i read everything carefully, but might prevent more people from installing it without intending to).
Maybe, but read this post and the next ones, specially the ones of patchou: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=22...d=218485#pid218485
RE: plus 3 by Anubis on 06-02-2004 at 03:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by MC Inferno
That's true, but I don't think it could be much clearer than it is. If they ignore it at this point, they'll ignore it all the time.
Yeah but it would increase the chances of them noticing
quote: Originally posted by MC Inferno
Also, some people are gonna want it, its that sponsor program that gets Patch his cash
This won't make a difference; if they want the sponsor program they'll still accept it
RE: plus 3 by MC Inferno on 06-02-2004 at 03:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Anubis
quote: Originally posted by MC Inferno
That's true, but I don't think it could be much clearer than it is. If they ignore it at this point, they'll ignore it all the time.
Yeah but it would increase the chances of them noticing
quote: Originally posted by MC Inferno
Also, some people are gonna want it, its that sponsor program that gets Patch his cash
This won't make a difference; if they want the sponsor program they'll still accept it
Fair Enuff
RE: RE: plus 3 by ZeroG on 06-03-2004 at 04:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kryptonate
/config
quote: Originally posted by MC Inferno
If they ignore it at this point, they'll ignore it all the time.
True, i should have spoken up when patchou first decided to include the sponsor.
quote: Originally posted by Choli
the language files, the main executable, the aditional dlls and the sponsor program are compressed in ZIP into the setup program.
I know that. when unzipped its 9.5MB as reported by Control Panel. Nevermind, I have lots of space and a fast connection and more features usually would make bigger file sizes..but i haven't noticed any speed decrease
As for the sponsor, i only intended to
quote: Originally posted by Anubis
increase the chances of them noticing
after all if you agreed to install it and it screws up your computer you can't really complain. Actually the idea to say install plus WITH/WITHOUT sponsor as in Choli's linked thread is a better idea. But in the end its patchous program, he gets to do what he wants, we can only give ideas..
RE: plus 3 by weirdal27 on 06-03-2004 at 04:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by ZeroG
i like plus! 3. lots of improvements.
If im not wrong then you can't get to the preferences window from a conversation anymore (used to be able to from Plus!\Quick Texts). any chance of having that (or something similar) back?
I wish it was easier, like under the plus menu on a conversation window something called "prefrences" at the bottom?
anyway, you can get there through the plus icon>send a pre-recorded message>edit the quick texts list...
RE: plus 3 by ZeroG on 06-03-2004 at 04:16 AM
erm
quote: Originally posted by Kryptonate
/config
is actually much easier, no need to move mouse
RE: plus 3 by weirdal27 on 06-03-2004 at 04:19 AM
i know, but i try to avoid commands, a menu would be much better
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