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NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Patchou on 12-29-2002 at 07:08 PM

Hello everyone, happy new year!!!!

Patchou's going to be skiing a little for new year's eve. It's been a while.... I have a very very good news for all of you: I just solved the compatibility problem between Messenger 5 and Windows XP. You can now consider that Messenger Plus! 2 won't have any limitation of this kind anymore.

Yahoooooooooo!!!!!
Patchou


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Freeze on 12-29-2002 at 07:23 PM

Great news, don't use WinXP, but i can imagine what a relief this must be for those who do :)


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Guido on 12-29-2002 at 07:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
I have a very very good news for all of you: I just solved the compatibility problem between Messenger 5 and Windows XP. You can now consider that Messenger Plus! 2 won't have any limitation of this kind anymore.
WOWWW!!
* Guido is installing msnmsgr5 and waiting 4 the new alpha :grin:

no really patchou, you're doing a great job! :refuck:

and btw, did microsoft help you in solving this?? :o
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Patchou on 12-29-2002 at 07:59 PM

I waited for Microsoft, they didn't helped... I had to do something by myself ;).

Messenger 5 XP compatibility is now in the current alpha version.... all alpha testers will receive it tonight.

It works, it works, it works! :)))))
Patchou


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by sock on 12-29-2002 at 08:02 PM

WHEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!:) I've been waiting for this since the beginning of time!:)
* sock dances the La Cucaracha around his computer like a complete idiot.

<edit>BTW gfd I loved that MP2 icon in your signature.:P</edit>


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Menthix on 12-29-2002 at 09:27 PM

* Menthix starts a little part too

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :P


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by MaxiKana on 12-29-2002 at 09:35 PM

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THANKS PATCHOU!!! you are the best!

* MaxiKana give patchou a box of cookies

* MaxiKana salutes patchou

Thanks again!! :D cant wait to get the new alpha


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Bugz on 12-29-2002 at 09:36 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
Hello everyone, happy new year!!!!

Patchou's going to be skiing a little for new year's eve. It's been a while.... I have a very very good news for all of you: I just solved the compatibility problem between Messenger 5 and Windows XP. You can now consider that Messenger Plus! 2 won't have any limitation of this kind anymore.

Yahoooooooooo!!!!!
Patchou

great work Patchou!!!
RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Guido on 12-29-2002 at 09:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MaxiKana
THANKS PATCHOU!!! you are the best!

* MaxiKana give patchou a box of cookies

* Guido steals patchou that box of cookies and eats them because he's hungry while he waits for the new alpha....! :p
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by ThA-BoZniAn on 12-29-2002 at 09:45 PM

HELL YEAH!!!!

Thanks Patchou, I can't wait until we begin with the translations, and help you out a bit ;)

HAPPY NEW YEAR 2003 TO YOU TOO PATCHOU :D!!!!


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Menthix on 12-29-2002 at 10:08 PM

WDZ, Jhonny ???..... do something about those topics saying MP2 won't support MSN5+XP..... some topics on the forum are giving out false information :P


Wheeeheeeee :)

* Menthix want's a box of cookies too :S


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by ThA-BoZniAn on 12-29-2002 at 10:11 PM

HEHE Jae,

U never know, until the master speaks (P2daU) (Y):P


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Shades29A on 12-29-2002 at 11:00 PM

great !
guess i'll be installing Messenger 5 in a few minutes ;-)


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Dane on 12-29-2002 at 11:14 PM

YAY! IM WAITING WITH THE REST OF THE ALPHA TEAM TO TEST THIS, GREAT WORK PATCHOU! WOO!!!!


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by zon7 on 12-29-2002 at 11:17 PM

What we all are asking ourselves is: How have you managed o get it working with messenger in XP without M$ help?


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Guido on 12-29-2002 at 11:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by zon7
What we all are asking ourselves is: How have you managed o get it working with messenger in XP without M$ help?

Probably just as Ginge did with GingeAPI... dunno... :s

BTW Please patchou don't go skiing before updating the alpha to .10!! :D :refuck:
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Menthix on 12-29-2002 at 11:50 PM

Hehe, he promised me he wouldn't... but he's watching LOTR now :D


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by reisyboy on 12-30-2002 at 12:53 AM

Well i have tested and found 11 major bugs, many more minor ones aswell and dicovering lots :s i am not sure this will be in the beat version of 4th of Jan it is really really buggy :S, however i was speaking to gingie and he has a diea that eh want to speak to pathou about so lets hope his idea can spead things up


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by shazaam on 12-30-2002 at 01:26 AM

Thats GREAT i was so dissapointed when i learned that it wouldnt work with messenger 5 on xp but im happy as hell now.


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by wade39 on 12-30-2002 at 01:26 AM

Yea YEA YEA!!! I can finally use MSN msgr 5 on my WINXP!!!! THX Patchou!!THNX!!!


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Guido on 12-30-2002 at 01:35 AM

Let's hope patchou can solve that bugs reysiboy found. (y)


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by shine on 12-30-2002 at 04:15 AM

Good News before New Year (y) Great ...Sure its a new beginning :clap:


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Skie on 12-30-2002 at 06:42 AM

What was the rough way that you managed to get it to work? I'm interested in the more technical aspect rather than just "it works" :)


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by royz on 12-30-2002 at 07:11 AM

hey all , i do not know if anyone of you know me but i am also a programmer for msn , now if u guyz just say how u guyz made ur program work on xp with msn5 i would mostly be appreciated . if patchoo is willing to help on behalf of the team i am in we will be most appreciate of your guyz work and also work out together to become more friends with both teams !! thanx and hope to see an answer to this !


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Menthix on 12-30-2002 at 08:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by royz
hey all , i do not know if anyone of you know me but i am also a programmer for msn , now if u guyz just say how u guyz made ur program work on xp with msn5 i would mostly be appreciated . if patchoo is willing to help on behalf of the team i am in we will be most appreciate of your guyz work and also work out together to become more friends with both teams !! thanx and hope to see an answer to this !

I'm not sure Patchou is gonna tell this.... he put many hard work in managing this, and then he would just give away his knowledge for free?

also, believe it or not, but Microsoft has it's reasons to de-activate the API... probaldy because of the "Evil add-ons" using them... if Patchou is gonna tell how he done it, those evil add-ons will start using it... Microsoft gets piss, an Patchou might get in problems.
RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Menthix on 12-30-2002 at 08:29 AM

quote:
Originally posted by reisyboy
Well i have tested and found 11 major bugs, many more minor ones aswell and dicovering lots :s i am not sure this will be in the beat version of 4th of Jan it is really really buggy :S, however i was speaking to gingie and he has a diea that eh want to speak to pathou about so lets hope his idea can spead things up

11!?... i certeainly didn't found that much, i fact i found just one until now.

Could you email me the bugs you found, so i can test those on my PC too and report them (various people report bugs in various ways, this will speed up the fixing process for Patchou).

Keep in mind: We found way more then 11 bugs in MP2 with 4.7... 5.0 is build tottaly diffrent, finding that many bugs shouldn't be a problem (in fact it's good).
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by hzkb on 12-30-2002 at 10:24 AM

Yahoooooooooo!!!!!


Good news


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Mnjul on 12-30-2002 at 10:33 AM

Wooooo
Couldn't this be the greatest news for new year?

It seems that I can install Msg5 in Window$ XP around Jan. 4!
(I'm afraid that Micro$oft will say one day :
"Sorry, but we no longer support Windows Messenger.")


Hail Patchou!! by Dadoef on 12-30-2002 at 10:53 AM

Thx oh allmighty Patchou!! I was looking forward to see the results of the Plus! 2. But unfortunately I am using XP and so I couldn't use it on messenger 5. You are really a programming God!!
All hail Patchou!!!


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Menthix on 12-30-2002 at 10:56 AM

:bow: Patchou :bow:


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by mikezs on 12-30-2002 at 11:36 AM

woohoooooooo :)

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE!!!

esp. Patchou :P

* mikezs hands out cookies for all!


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by dom. on 12-30-2002 at 12:47 PM

*raddie takes sum cookies thankfully

Thanks! :P

Im soooo glad that it works on xp!!!!!!! I dont have XP but im fed up with ME crashing every 10mins, sooo im thinking about it now! especially now that Plus 2 works with it, sooooo YAAHHHOOOOOOOOOO!


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Bladerunner on 12-30-2002 at 01:24 PM

YAYAYA! I've been using Msgr5 on WinXP, this rocks! Great work Patchou...

Also, Happy new year to you too.


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by mofaisy on 12-30-2002 at 01:47 PM

(*)  100 Cheers for Patchou  (*)
             Sounds like a cool idea to me .... it can be much faster and all of us can come up with some nice cool features this way.

Hope the rest of the team  will like the idea too:)


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Bugz on 12-30-2002 at 02:22 PM

now I'll upgrade to msngr 5


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Kabubi on 12-30-2002 at 03:38 PM

great news patchou, but i still dont like msn5 it has lots of bugs :P


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Patchou on 12-30-2002 at 03:45 PM

what a nice support from everybody! so fast! lol... concerning the cookies, I'll wait to receive them. Concerning the Reisyboy bugs (and Jae's one too) .... hehehe... see, there is something they didn't told you: the version they has when reporting those bugs was a pre-distribution version that I sent to them only to test one particular thing: Messenger 5 global compatibility. After I went back from Lord Of The Ring, I corrected two more things and they still didn't got updated :p :p ..... so don't worry, those bugs belong already to the past. I insist on the fact that there will be NO major or medium bug in the public release (even in the beta). Just minor things, anyway, no program is perfect and I could continue to add features forever without releasing anything :).

So, for all alpha testers: new version is 2.00.11, not 2.00.10.  And, one last thing: what Reisyboy (who works hard, that's not the problem) calls major bugs can be generally considered as minor bugs :). You see, a major bug is something that would prevent Messenger to work as it does without Plus! (crash for example). a Medium bug is something that would prevent one important feature of MP2 to work (logging for example). A minor bug is that in some circumstances, one precise action doesn't give the expected result.

To conclude: Messenger 5 compatibility is 100% functional. How I did it? I won't tell you but it's very different from GingeAPI ;).

Patchou


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by shivadroolz on 12-30-2002 at 04:20 PM

Whee, that's GREAT news! Thanks, patchou! :D


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by chthomse on 12-30-2002 at 04:58 PM

Knew that you could do it!! :)

Just cant wait to get started on the translating part!!


Regards,
Chris..


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Guido on 12-30-2002 at 06:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by reisyboy
anyway :D 2.00.11 works fine :)

XP Home/Pro/Plus SP1 (Y)
.Net Server (Y)
With 4.7 and Version 5
All work fine!

GR8

the same to me, it works fine, except for a little bug in the setup i already talked to patchou about
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by user2319 on 12-30-2002 at 07:19 PM

I cant quite understand one little thing. Why do people think this is so gr8?? I mean msn5 isnt hundred times better then 4.7... So Whats the big deal??


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Guido on 12-30-2002 at 07:36 PM

no, but it's new, and for most people it's nicer... so we want to keep current, and if mp2 allows us to choose between two versions that's better. Before, we had to stick with 4x windows messenger anyway...
and msn5 has a couple of new features


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by oddern82 on 12-30-2002 at 07:53 PM

This is the best news i've got in a long time!

I finaly got to register... Been reading this forum for quite some time!


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Patchou on 12-30-2002 at 08:53 PM

yep, people are nie here, for sure. For Messenger 5/XP compatibility, it's for you, not for me :). I prefer using Windows Messenger 4 and if it was only me, I would have waited that Windows Messenger 5 is released. But to make all of you happy, I've added a Messenger 5/XP compatibility mode (note that Messenger 5 in any other Windwos just work very fine, as in Messenger 4).


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by kittyangel on 12-30-2002 at 10:39 PM

wow, great work Patchou.  Although i don't use windows XP at all but i can see how happy a person is like when the problem is solved finally!

great work, Patchou.
:many:


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by ThA-BoZniAn on 12-30-2002 at 10:54 PM

Well I think that MP2 will be the greatest add-on for MSN Messenger. I've been using other add-ons, but they only caused problems with the messenger. 6 months ago i downloaded MP1 and it was great, but I updated my MSN, to the newest version, and some things didn't work anymore :(, so i deleted it. i heard about MP2, and began to come to the forum more often, to read the newest updates. I must say that www.mess.be, is a great supporter of Patchou too. MP2 is free too, Patchou dedicated his time to make such a great add-on for us, we must be thankful for that, and be proud of him, dedicating his free time to make such a great add-on, although i didn't try it out yet, I've heard from people that MP2 is the BEST!!!!:):D(Y).

Happy new year to everybody!!!!


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by kittyangel on 12-31-2002 at 04:18 AM

i am glad you like MP2, ThA-BoZniAn!
i totally agree with you, MP2 is the best add-on for MSN messenger!(M)


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Guido on 12-31-2002 at 04:36 AM

quote:
Originally posted by wtbw
What exactly was the problem?
The api for MSN 5 in winXP was different than the one used in 4x... and MS didn't release enough info...
quote:
How was it solved?
Just interested in the technical details ;)
I don't know, only Patchou knows... and he probably wont tell us that never... I would do exactly the same :grin:
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by ThA-BoZniAn on 12-31-2002 at 05:05 AM

Yeah kittyangel,

It's just i didn't get the chance to try out MP2 :'(, but the time will come :D


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Bugz on 12-31-2002 at 09:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by wtbw
How was it solved?

Patchou made messenger think it's running on win 2000
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Webster on 12-31-2002 at 09:28 AM

Am I to understnad that orignally, Messenger plus 2 was not goign to work with Windows XP?!? If so, I am glad you fixed it *sighs*


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by sock on 12-31-2002 at 10:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Webster
Am I to understand that originally, Messenger Plus 2 was not going to work with Windows XP?!?
No, we are only talking about the combination of Windows XP and MSN Messenger 5. It would work fine with the Windows Messenger. But now it doesn't matter - It will work on MSN Messenger 5 everywhere!(Y):)
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by zbegra on 12-31-2002 at 01:46 PM

Wow, This is really great news, 10 minutes ago i was thinking..."hmm, I gotta uninstall xp so i can get MP2 to work"
but then I Went here and found the fantastic news :D *happy*

ALL HAIL PATCHOU!


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by user2319 on 12-31-2002 at 02:28 PM

I think its a good job of Patchou making it compatible with xp and msn 5 combined. but i dont understand people becoming crazy coz it aint so much better (i must abmit it is better and im using it myself to :) ). Well, some people are just so strange...


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by zbegra on 12-31-2002 at 02:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by messenger add-ons fan
I think its a good job of Patchou making it compatible with xp and msn 5 combined. but i dont understand people becoming crazy coz it aint so much better (i must abmit it is better and im using it myself to :) ). Well, some people are just so strange...


it IS a big thing really, because there are many millions of people using xp, and sure alot of people using both xp and msn5
RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by user2319 on 12-31-2002 at 04:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by zbegra
quote:
Originally posted by messenger add-ons fan
I think its a good job of Patchou making it compatible with xp and msn 5 combined. but i dont understand people becoming crazy coz it aint so much better (i must abmit it is better and im using it myself to :) ). Well, some people are just so strange...


it IS a big thing really, because there are many millions of people using xp, and sure alot of people using both xp and msn5

I know. But they dont have to use msn 5. they can also use windows messngr 4.7 but nevermind. just stop about it ok?
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Fraisie on 12-31-2002 at 07:55 PM

Isn't Patchou the best ? :P


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Johnny_Mac on 12-31-2002 at 08:02 PM

No... you're the best, then Patchou. ;)


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by oddern82 on 12-31-2002 at 08:38 PM

This realy is the best community!!!

It's going to be nice to install MP2... 2 bad the mp1 don't work properly with msn 5... But... The good times are expected around Jan 4th! :D

Thank you VERY much Patchou, 4 this great job!!!


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by shine on 01-01-2003 at 08:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Johnny_Mac
No... you're the best, then Patchou. ;)


Hehe :D if not for you... I doubt it  :p... *Thinks about Inspirations :grin:

Behind the success of evey man there is :wink:
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Kodiak on 01-01-2003 at 12:21 PM

Hey People Just wanted to say what a great program MP2 is and how it has made my MSN msngr chatting a bit more fun :P

see ya

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RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Kodiak on 01-01-2003 at 12:22 PM

Hey People Just wanted to say what a great program MP2 is and how it has made my MSN msngr chatting a bit more fun :P

oh yeah and how do ya add pics and that in ya messages and under ya name in the forum

see ya


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by dom. on 01-01-2003 at 06:53 PM

Quote:
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Hey People Just wanted to say what a great program MP2 is and how it has made my MSN msngr chatting a bit more fun :P
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:O a bit!!? No its a whole fuckin world of difference!

User + MSN/Windows Messenger= :blah::angry::cry:
User + MSN/Windows Messenger + Plus! = (h):):D (all hail to ye great Patchou) :bow:


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Dadoef on 01-01-2003 at 07:19 PM

Happy Easter!! But who's counting down for the New Year, were all counting down an anxious for msg Plus! 2.


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by BgBoY on 01-02-2003 at 02:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patchou

Messenger 5 XP compatibility is now in the current alpha version.... all alpha testers will receive it tonight.



and how can i become one ???
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by A Norwegian on 01-02-2003 at 03:19 PM

LOVELY the beta v. vill be avalible to all of us at the 4th of januaay?
i like it...
btw anyone that knows how to remove windows messenger wrom the pc? (in xp) ver. 5.0 just rock my world... but i cant get 4.6 out of it...

btw great job ppl!


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by dom. on 01-02-2003 at 03:45 PM

I dunno if its the same in xp, but Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs > MSN Messenger 4.6

Some one correct me if i am wrong


RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Swaptor on 01-02-2003 at 04:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by BgBoY
quote:
Originally posted by Patchou

Messenger 5 XP compatibility is now in the current alpha version.... all alpha testers will receive it tonight.



and how can i become one ???


Erm, i think you are a little too late thinking about becoming an alpha-tester... :rolleyes:
You can become a beta-tester though! :grin: :cheesy:
RE: RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by j2jensen on 01-02-2003 at 06:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Swaptor

Erm, i think you are a little too late thinking about becoming an alpha-tester... :rolleyes:
You can become a beta-tester though! :grin: :cheesy:


And how might one go about becoming a beta tester, and signing up for future alpha testing.

   James
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by gewoon ikke on 01-02-2003 at 06:26 PM

everyone can do beta-testing just download the beta-version when released


RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by user2319 on 01-02-2003 at 06:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Swaptor
quote:
Originally posted by gewoon ikke
everyone can do beta-testing just download the beta-version when released

It's as easy as that! :grin:


yup. just check this often: http://www.patchou.com/msgplus/mp2.htm
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by lylesback1 on 01-02-2003 at 09:25 PM

people are getting practice on it for the release so they can be familiar with the program :) like me !


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by ThA-BoZniAn on 01-02-2003 at 10:13 PM

MP2 Beta version OUT IN Less then 2 days

1 day 7hours 48min 56sec:)


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Swaptor on 01-02-2003 at 10:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ThA-BoZniAn
MP2 Beta version OUT IN Less then 2 days

1 day 7hours 48min 56sec:)


Patchou said *approximately* 10 days... This could mean in 2 days; or more. :refuck:
Just be patient; i'll be there when it is there! :tongue:
RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by MoRiA on 01-03-2003 at 12:13 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Swaptor
quote:
Originally posted by ThA-BoZniAn
MP2 Beta version OUT IN Less then 2 days

1 day 7hours 48min 56sec:)


Patchou said *approximately* 10 days... This could mean in 2 days; or more. :refuck:
Just be patient; i'll be there when it is there! :tongue:


Directly from http://www.patchou.com/msgplus/mp2.htm:
December 24st
Merry Christmas! Public Beta will be released in less than 10 days. I've worked a lot this month for you, hope you'll enjoy the result!

Looks to me like he said "less than 10 days". Oh well...
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Fraisie on 01-03-2003 at 03:25 AM

Please, I know you all can't wait to get the new version, but understand that Patchou also has a life ;) Plus is very important to him, but don't push him that much :P After all, you wouldn't Patchou to become depressed because of all the mails he receives about Plus :P Ain't I right ?


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Patchou on 01-03-2003 at 04:59 AM

lol.. for the record, my gf posted that message when I was playing to Mario Sunshine.... well, don't worry, I'm not depressed, I jsut have too much work with Plus! and monday, at work, I have a very important demo to do for a new product in the company (those who are interested to see what I'm doing during the day can check http://www.opmr.com :))

Thanks for all your support!
Skiing-Patchou


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Barisko on 01-03-2003 at 12:11 PM

so...
if I understand right the new Messenger Plus 2.0 supports MSN Messenger 5.0 under Windows XP?

just to make sure...


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by MoRiA on 01-03-2003 at 12:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Barisko
so...
if I understand right the new Messenger Plus 2.0 supports MSN Messenger 5.0 under Windows XP?

just to make sure...


Yes, you are correct
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by janopoulos on 01-03-2003 at 09:21 PM

How he got Windows XP to work with MSN Messenger 5 and MP2 is really simple..and quite TOO simple. By default, MSN Messenger is going to run under Windows 2000 compatibility mode. Therefore, features such as video-conferencing will be unavailable in Messenger. I recommend if you want to use this, you stick to Windows Messenger 4.7. I too look foward to the final release of MP2.


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Foden on 01-04-2003 at 01:42 AM

quote:
Originally posted by janopoulos
How he got Windows XP to work with MSN Messenger 5 and MP2 is really simple..and quite TOO simple. By default, MSN Messenger is going to run under Windows 2000 compatibility mode.


u sure he runs in under Windows 2000 Compatibility mode???
RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Dane on 01-04-2003 at 01:53 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Foden
quote:
Originally posted by janopoulos
How he got Windows XP to work with MSN Messenger 5 and MP2 is really simple..and quite TOO simple. By default, MSN Messenger is going to run under Windows 2000 compatibility mode.


u sure he runs in under Windows 2000 Compatibility mode???


I Just Checked, it is indeed Set to "Run In Windows 2000 Compatibility Mode".

In Terms of Taking the mode off, in my tests the Messenger Plus DLL was Deactivated and Returned to the normal mode.

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RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by sock on 01-04-2003 at 02:00 AM

quote:
Originally posted by janopoulos
Therefore, features such as video-conferencing will be unavailable in Messenger. I recommend if you want to use this, you stick to Windows Messenger 4.7.

Huh? Are you saying some of MSN Messenger 5's features will be unavailable with MP2 installed under Windows XP?!?:O:O:O Patchou, please tell me he is bluffing! =\
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Guido on 01-04-2003 at 02:03 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Foden
quote:
Originally posted by janopoulos
How he got Windows XP to work with MSN Messenger 5 and MP2 is really simple..and quite TOO simple. By default, MSN Messenger is going to run under Windows 2000 compatibility mode.

u sure he runs in under Windows 2000 Compatibility mode???

yes he's right, when you turn the compatibility mode off, mp2 doesn't work with msn5.  And what's the problem with that?! Only the 16-color icon...
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by janopoulos on 01-04-2003 at 03:45 AM

The 16-bit system tray icon isn't the only setback. Features such as Windows XP's Remote Assistance, and I also mentioned video-conferencing, which is disabled in Messenger when it is not running under XP. So for now, your solution would be to stick to Windows Messenger, at least until Microsoft releases the MSN Messenger 5.0 API documentation, if they ever do.


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Guido on 01-04-2003 at 04:39 AM

quote:
Originally posted by janopoulos
The 16-bit system tray icon isn't the only setback. Features such as Windows XP's Remote Assistance, and I also mentioned video-conferencing, which is disabled in Messenger when it is not running under XP. So for now, your solution would be to stick to Windows Messenger, at least until Microsoft releases the MSN Messenger 5.0 API documentation, if they ever do.

first its not 16-bit, its 4 bits and 16 colours
I think i never seen those features in MSN 5 with or without MP2... maybe i'm wrong...
*edit* actually i checked and at least the video conferencing is disabled when running mp2... sorry
RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by MoRiA on 01-04-2003 at 11:07 AM

quote:
Originally posted by gfd
quote:
Originally posted by janopoulos
The 16-bit system tray icon isn't the only setback. Features such as Windows XP's Remote Assistance, and I also mentioned video-conferencing, which is disabled in Messenger when it is not running under XP. So for now, your solution would be to stick to Windows Messenger, at least until Microsoft releases the MSN Messenger 5.0 API documentation, if they ever do.

first its not 16-bit, its 4 bits and 16 colours
I think i never seen those features in MSN 5 with or without MP2... maybe i'm wrong...
*edit* actually i checked and at least the video conferencing is disabled when running mp2... sorry


The 'Actions' menu of MSN 5 without MP2:
[Image: msn5.PNG]
The 'Actions' menu of MSN 5 with Win 2000 compatability mode:
[Image: msn5b.PNG]

So it would appear that Video Conversation does vanish when 2000 compatability mode is activated.
However there is little that has changed in MSN 5 so there is no reason for not using Windows Messenger instead.
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Johnny_Mac on 01-04-2003 at 11:37 AM

You cant have the best of both worlds in a sence, if you want MP2 for MSN Messenger XP, then you have to deal with MSN Messenger thinking its in 2000. Therefore, not having those features.


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by TheProfessional on 01-04-2003 at 12:06 PM

Wow wow, lemme get this stright... If I am running WinXP, and MSN5, I'm still able to use MP2. To use MP2, I have to set the compatibility mode for MSN to Win2K. By setting the compatibility mode to Win2K, I lose the features of asking/being asked for Remote Assistance and Video Conversations. Is that all?


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Johnny_Mac on 01-04-2003 at 12:11 PM

I believe thats the deal atm... however someone is currently speaking to Patchou about another way to get around it.


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by reisyboy on 01-04-2003 at 12:13 PM

think of what we have now as a temp fix!


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by user2319 on 01-04-2003 at 01:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by janopoulos
How he got Windows XP to work with MSN Messenger 5 and MP2 is really simple..and quite TOO simple. By default, MSN Messenger is going to run under Windows 2000 compatibility mode. Therefore, features such as video-conferencing will be unavailable in Messenger. I recommend if you want to use this, you stick to Windows Messenger 4.7. I too look foward to the final release of MP2.


why would video conferencing unavailable?? If that would happen. Patchou wouldnt have said that he managed to get it working! :@
RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Johnny_Mac on 01-04-2003 at 02:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by PlusFan
why would video conferencing unavailable?? If that would happen. Patchou wouldnt have said that he managed to get it working! :@

You can only have video conferencing in XP Messengers... This messenger is 2000 (even though its on xp) therefore video conferencing isnt avaliable according to it, however they may be a way to turn the options on.
RE: RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by MoRiA on 01-04-2003 at 03:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Johnny_Mac
quote:
Originally posted by PlusFan
why would video conferencing unavailable?? If that would happen. Patchou wouldnt have said that he managed to get it working! :@

You can only have video conferencing in XP Messengers... This messenger is 2000 (even though its on xp) therefore video conferencing isnt avaliable according to it, however they may be a way to turn the options on.


What's the big deal with video? If you want video conferencing use Netmeeting cos that also works with people not running XP. Messenger on XP simply combines MSN and Netmeeting.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Johnny_Mac on 01-04-2003 at 03:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MoRiA
quote:
Originally posted by Johnny_Mac
quote:
Originally posted by PlusFan
why would video conferencing unavailable?? If that would happen. Patchou wouldnt have said that he managed to get it working! :@

You can only have video conferencing in XP Messengers... This messenger is 2000 (even though its on xp) therefore video conferencing isnt avaliable according to it, however they may be a way to turn the options on.


What's the big deal with video? If you want video conferencing use Netmeeting cos that also works with people not running XP. Messenger on XP simply combines MSN and Netmeeting.

I cant use it anyway... I was just illustrating the point to "PlusFan".
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by user2319 on 01-04-2003 at 03:44 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Johnny_Mac
quote:
Originally posted by MoRiA
quote:
Originally posted by Johnny_Mac
quote:
Originally posted by PlusFan
why would video conferencing unavailable?? If that would happen. Patchou wouldnt have said that he managed to get it working! :@

You can only have video conferencing in XP Messengers... This messenger is 2000 (even though its on xp) therefore video conferencing isnt avaliable according to it, however they may be a way to turn the options on.


What's the big deal with video? If you want video conferencing use Netmeeting cos that also works with people not running XP. Messenger on XP simply combines MSN and Netmeeting.

I cant use it anyway... I was just illustrating the point to "PlusFan".


well, i never used the video thing anyway :tongue:
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by dom. on 01-04-2003 at 03:47 PM

I mite do whn i get XP :undecided:

it could be fun :P


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by user2319 on 01-04-2003 at 04:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Raddie
I mite do whn i get XP :undecided:

it could be fun :P


then disable plus and do your video thing. if your done activate plus again :tongue:
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by dom. on 01-04-2003 at 04:13 PM

(Y) Thanks


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by MoRiA on 01-04-2003 at 04:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Raddie
I mite do whn i get XP :undecided:

it could be fun :P


Just download Netmeeting (if you don't already have it) and use that. It even appears in the MSN Actions menu.
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Skie on 01-04-2003 at 05:51 PM

there should be another way to do it... i poked around for a few days, and this is basicially what I came up with (all for XP):

MSN Messenger 5 does not register its own COM objects. It has type libraries in the program, just like Windows Messenger, but the typelibraries are the same, so MSN 5 API goes to Windows Messenger. Changing the registry entry is one method, which works for some and not for others. Another possibly better method would be to add a second API entry with some sort of wrapper. it is definately possible to access the API, since Outlook Express does it...


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Dane on 01-04-2003 at 06:08 PM

I Am going to clear up a few issues as a result of my post.

quote:
So Messenger Plus 2 Wont work on Windows XP?


It WILL work on Windows XP, the Installer Installs it In Compatibility mode.

quote:
What About The Icon and the old colors?


Does this Icon mean that much to you?  I think patchou is looking for a way around this, but you can always Deactivate the Messenger Plus! 2 Plugin for MSN Messenger 5.

quote:
So will it or wont it work on Messenger 5?


It will work, it installs in Windows 2000 Mode, However if you turn off compatibility mode IT WILL disable the Messenger Plus! 2 Plugin.

If theres any more issues I can try and resolve, lemme know!

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RE: MP2 by coleman01 on 01-04-2003 at 06:58 PM

Pathetic. Making ppl wait even longer for MP2.

Fair enough, ppl might need more time, but whats the point in setting a date to release then changing the date.

Not like patchou at all.


RE: RE: MP2 by user2319 on 01-04-2003 at 07:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by coleman01
Pathetic. Making ppl wait even longer for MP2.

Fair enough, ppl might need more time, but whats the point in setting a date to release then changing the date.

Not like patchou at all.


there is and was no release datE!! Patchou Wanted to make it within 10 days but it was not enough
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by dom. on 01-04-2003 at 07:32 PM

coleman01, try and amke mp2 in a few mounths :refuck:


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by TheProfessional on 01-05-2003 at 12:31 AM

The icons don't matter much to me. Then again, I would be hacking into the exe and changing the icon pictures to the XP style. Doesn't matter to me at all. :D


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Guido on 01-05-2003 at 01:19 AM

quote:
Originally posted by TheProfessional
...and changing the icon pictures to the XP style.
try! lol you can't... winxp icons are already in the exe, and you can't swap 16 color icons with 32 bits ones... because they have different sizes... and btw thats illegal :angel:
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by ArcticWolf on 01-05-2003 at 06:26 AM

I was just wondering if a help file will be included with MP2 beta, because i am not all that familiar with MIRC commands, which Pathou has included in MP2. I have been reading what he has added such as :(/away, /busy, ...). So what will be all the features or do we have to try and figure them out ourselves?


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Skie on 01-05-2003 at 06:34 AM

well, er, there aren't exactly a lot of IRC commands.  read the RFC and you won't find many... /me is probably the most 'famous' one... i think this was just irc-style though... *shrug*


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Guido on 01-05-2003 at 06:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ArcticWolf
I was just wondering if a help file will be included with MP2 beta, because i am not all that familiar with MIRC commands, which Pathou has included in MP2. I have been reading what he has added such as :(/away, /busy, ...). So what will be all the features or do we have to try and figure them out ourselves?

most of the features have a description and a how-to in the preferences dialog and btw there will be a new faq and a tutorial in the website
RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by TheProfessional on 01-05-2003 at 08:19 AM

quote:
Originally posted by gfd
quote:
Originally posted by TheProfessional
...and changing the icon pictures to the XP style.
try! lol you can't... winxp icons are already in the exe, and you can't swap 16 color icons with 32 bits ones... because they have different sizes... and btw thats illegal :angel:


Actually, I said "icon pictures". There are images with all of the System Tray icons for MSN (Online, Away, Offine, Signing-in, etc.) which I'm assuming can be replaced by other images. I'm going to download Resource Hacker and export the images and post them. I'll also replace the older icon pictures with the WinXP ones and test MSN out in Win2K mode. I'll then get back to you on it. Also, about that being illegal.. http://http://www.jabinc.cjb.net/

By the way GFD, no hard feelings. I didn't come here to reek hatrid on the forum, if I'm going too far with this please tell me. :)
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by TheProfessional on 01-05-2003 at 08:36 AM

Arighty, here are the images. I'm going to replace them right after this post and do a check in all compatibility modes, making sure the images I replaced have infact been replaced.

[Image: 2k1.bmp]
[Image: xp1.bmp]

[Image: 2k2.bmp]
[Image: xp2.bmp]

[Image: 2k3.bmp]
[Image: xp3.bmp]

[Image: 2k4.bmp]
[Image: xp4.bmp]


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by TheProfessional on 01-05-2003 at 08:53 AM

Test 1 Results:

Messenger runs properly
WinXP: Yes
Win2K: Yes
WinNT: Yes
WinME: No
Win98: No
Win95: No*

Icons changed in working Comp. Modes
WinXP: --
Win2K: Yes
WinNT: Yes
WinME: --
Win98: --
Win95: --

*MSN5 is originally not compatible with Win95.


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by fleetadmiralmatt on 01-05-2003 at 08:56 AM

I thought they already corrected the Windows XP Issue... Why was this necessary?
Am I wrong in this assumption :S

Anyways, if it isn't corrected, then good work! Can you get the Video to work now :)


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by TheProfessional on 01-05-2003 at 09:20 AM

LoL your assumtion is correct.. This wasn't necessary. But thanks for the Good Work comment. ;) Will (wtbw) has resolved this issue so we don't need to worry.

Just one more thing I'd like to add before my theory dies: I dom't think MSN5 would work in WinME/98 compatibility mode because there is a special download for WinME/98 on the MSN Messenger site. LoL ok I'm done I'm done.


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by wilson26541 on 01-05-2003 at 10:05 AM

This one is to TheProfessional

You were mentioning before something about if XP and MSN5 were being used with MP2, then the icons (little pictures) would revert to their old 2000 selves.  I could not find the end result of your research anywhere on the board...can u update me please.

Thanx,
Marconicus


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by TheProfessional on 01-05-2003 at 12:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by wilson26541
This one is to TheProfessional

You were mentioning before something about if XP and MSN5 were being used with MP2, then the icons (little pictures) would revert to their old 2000 selves.  I could not find the end result of your research anywhere on the board...can u update me please.

Thanx,
Marconicus


Well, before Will came up with his solution to fix the problem with running MP2 on MSN5 with WinXP (LoL confusing eh?), the only way to get MP2 to work was to change the compatibility mode of MSN5 to Win2000. It then acts as if your operating system is actually Win2000 and you lose the features of Video Conversations, Remote Assistance, and probably some others within MSN Messenger (Not completely off your system). Because it thinks your running Win2000 is also uses the old bulky system tray icons. I simply just replaced them with the newer XP icons.

Please note that this has been fixed, and there was no point to what I did. Thanks. :P
RE: RE: MP2 by Fraisie on 01-05-2003 at 01:36 PM

quote:
Originally posted by coleman01
Pathetic. Making ppl wait even longer for MP2.

Fair enough, ppl might need more time, but whats the point in setting a date to release then changing the date.

Not like patchou at all.


It is even more pathetic to react the way you do.
Preparing Windows XP for MP2 by Josep M. on 01-05-2003 at 03:23 PM

Well, while we wait for Patchou finish his creature, anybody can explain to me the best path on Windows XP?
At this moment I have Windows Messenger 4.7.0105
What need I do? First uninstall Windows Messenger 4.7 and then install MSN Messenger 5? Install MSN 5 without uninstalling Windows Messenger? There are somethink special on MSN Messenger installation? (like Windows 2000 compatibility an so one...)

If someone knows the best path to follow, please....

Josep M.


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Bugz on 01-05-2003 at 04:21 PM

messenger 5 is installed seperately from windows msngr 4.7
I now have them both on my xp machine and they work gr8


RE: Preparing Windows XP for MP2 by Guido on 01-05-2003 at 04:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Josep M.
Install MSN 5 without uninstalling Windows Messenger? There are somethink special on MSN Messenger installation? (like Windows 2000 compatibility an so one...)
Nothing special in MSN MEss. installation... just install it and then you'll have both, working fine. The compatibility issue was when using Mp2 Alpha, now Patchou is working on another workaround of the problem.
RE: Preparing Windows XP for MP2 by fleetadmiralmatt on 01-05-2003 at 04:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Josep M.
Well, while we wait for Patchou finish his creature, anybody can explain to me the best path on Windows XP?
At this moment I have Windows Messenger 4.7.0105
What need I do? First uninstall Windows Messenger 4.7 and then install MSN Messenger 5? Install MSN 5 without uninstalling Windows Messenger? There are somethink special on MSN Messenger installation? (like Windows 2000 compatibility an so one...)

If someone knows the best path to follow, please....

Josep M.


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Skie on 01-05-2003 at 04:47 PM

bah. now i need to try it.


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Bugz on 01-05-2003 at 05:11 PM

under xp it is loaded in both 4.7 and 5 at the same time, I dunno for win 98


RE: RE: Preparing Windows XP for MP2 by fleetadmiralmatt on 01-05-2003 at 05:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fleetadmiralmatt
quote:
Originally posted by Josep M.
Well, while we wait for Patchou finish his creature, anybody can explain to me the best path on Windows XP?
At this moment I have Windows Messenger 4.7.0105
What need I do? First uninstall Windows Messenger 4.7 and then install MSN Messenger 5? Install MSN 5 without uninstalling Windows Messenger? There are somethink special on MSN Messenger installation? (like Windows 2000 compatibility an so one...)

If someone knows the best path to follow, please....

Josep M.



For some reason, my post didn't come out...
What I meant to say is...

According to Microsoft, you must keep Windows Messenger installed to use the Windows XP features in MSN 5 such as Whiteboard and Video Confrenceing
RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by MoRiA on 01-05-2003 at 05:33 PM

quote:
Originally posted by buqingzi
a sorta offtopic question: would mp2 work with both msn 5 and 4.6 running at the same time under win98 (not xp and not windows msgr, :P)? or is there a 'priority' thing here, like if the program detects msn5 it would not load with msn msgr 4.6 or any other lower versions?


This probably belongs in the MP2 Support Board, but I'll reply here cos this is where it is.

Why would you want MSN 5 and 4.6 running at the same time? I can understand using some form of polygamy prog to open more than one copy of MSN 5 or MSN 4.6 but there doesn't seem to be a reason for having both loaded similtaneously... :rolleyes:
RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by musicalmidget on 01-05-2003 at 05:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by buqingzi
a sorta offtopic question: would mp2 work with both msn 5 and 4.6 running at the same time under win98 (not xp and not windows msgr, :P)? or is there a 'priority' thing here, like if the program detects msn5 it would not load with msn msgr 4.6 or any other lower versions?


I don't see why it should favour one version over another, but I havn't got a clue!! :p
RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by fleetadmiralmatt on 01-05-2003 at 05:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by buqingzi
a sorta offtopic question: would mp2 work with both msn 5 and 4.6 running at the same time under win98 (not xp and not windows msgr, :P)? or is there a 'priority' thing here, like if the program detects msn5 it would not load with msn msgr 4.6 or any other lower versions?


I don't think you can have both... MSN 5 replaces MSN 4.6 Its the same program that just overwrites the other like an update. And besides, what would you need them both for? Its just a waste of memory.

RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Incubus on 01-05-2003 at 05:56 PM

Donno if it helps, but to uninstall Windows Messenger under WinXP, u could use this very simple solution :

http://www.clubic.com/n/gen/n4884.html

Sorry, donno anything about Win98... :/


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by fleetadmiralmatt on 01-05-2003 at 05:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Incubus
Donno if it helps, but to uninstall Windows Messenger under WinXP, u could use this very simple solution :

http://www.clubic.com/n/gen/n4884.html

Sorry, donno anything about Win98... :/


I don't recommend uninstalling Windows Messenger. It doesn't really interfere anyways, its just a pile of files and registry keys that are used to allow the Windows XP features in MSN5...

Its probably more futile to uninstall it rather than to just leave it there.

Also, not everyone here reads French :D

Correction Made :)
RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by TheProfessional on 01-05-2003 at 07:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MoRiA
quote:
Originally posted by buqingzi
a sorta offtopic question: would mp2 work with both msn 5 and 4.6 running at the same time under win98 (not xp and not windows msgr, :P)? or is there a 'priority' thing here, like if the program detects msn5 it would not load with msn msgr 4.6 or any other lower versions?


This probably belongs in the MP2 Support Board, but I'll reply here cos this is where it is.

Why would you want MSN 5 and 4.6 running at the same time? I can understand using some form of polygamy prog to open more than one copy of MSN 5 or MSN 4.6 but there doesn't seem to be a reason for having both loaded similtaneously... :rolleyes:


You actually don't need to have WinMessenger running to get WinXP features in MSN5. Just installed.
RE: RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by fleetadmiralmatt on 01-05-2003 at 09:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by TheProfessional
You actually don't need to have WinMessenger running to get WinXP features in MSN5. Just installed.


Yeah but you need WinMessenger installed
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by TheProfessional on 01-05-2003 at 09:41 PM

LoL I said that...


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by fleetadmiralmatt on 01-05-2003 at 11:09 PM

Oh Im sorry... I thought you meant that you don't need it instlaled either...

Also, he was talking about running it under the Windows 98 environment. So he can't have both 4.7 and 5 installed.


RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Guido on 01-06-2003 at 02:07 AM

quote:
Originally posted by buqingzi
So, the thing I'm wondering about is if mp2 will work will both versions of msgr together. :P

in Win98 i don't know, but in Xp MP2 runs perfectly with both versions running together (WinMess & Msn5)
RE: RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Bugz on 01-06-2003 at 09:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by fleetadmiralmatt
I don't think you can have both... MSN 5 replaces MSN 4.6 Its the same program that just overwrites the other like an update.

It is possible, my cousin is running win ME and he has msngr 4.7 & 5 at the same time
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by yunnyboy on 01-06-2003 at 12:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fleetadmiralmatt
I don't think you can have both... MSN 5 replaces MSN 4.6 Its the same program that just overwrites the other like an update.


That's not right. Up to 4.6 it DID replace the older version, but MSN 5 seems to be a completely different installation. Wonder if u have noticed, but if u check u 'program files' folder u notice there are two folers:

'Messenger' and 'MSN Messenger'

'Messenger' folder is the 4.6 version, and 'MSN Messenver' is the version 5. So if you run msmsgs.exe and msnmsgr.exe, you can run both. (tho it appears to be that u can't log in with two different accounts on them, i dunno)

peeeece (H)V
RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by sock on 01-07-2003 at 03:55 AM

quote:
Originally posted by yunnyboy
That's not right. Up to 4.6 it DID replace the older version, but MSN 5 seems to be a completely different installation. Wonder if u have noticed, but if u check u 'program files' folder u notice there are two folers:

'Messenger' and 'MSN Messenger'

'Messenger' folder is the 4.6 version, and 'MSN Messenver' is the version 5. So if you run msmsgs.exe and msnmsgr.exe, you can run both. (tho it appears to be that u can't log in with two different accounts on them, i dunno)

Are you talking about MSN Messenger 5 and MSN Messenger 4.7 under Windows 98? Cause that's what he was talking about, and it sounds to me like you are talking about MSN Messenger 5 and Windows Messenger 4.7 under Windows XP.... if you know what I'm talkin` about.:D
RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Guido on 01-07-2003 at 04:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by yunnyboy
(tho it appears to be that u can't log in with two different accounts on them, i dunno)
yes you can
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by fleetadmiralmatt on 01-07-2003 at 05:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Bugz
quote:
Originally posted by fleetadmiralmatt
I don't think you can have both... MSN 5 replaces MSN 4.6 Its the same program that just overwrites the other like an update.

It is possible, my cousin is running win ME and he has msngr 4.7 & 5 at the same time


Oh ok... Thanks for clarifying that!
RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by Chrono on 01-13-2003 at 07:44 AM

I had both MSN messenger 4.6 and 5 installed on win 98 :undecided:


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by pisces866 on 01-13-2003 at 08:27 AM

I have 4.7 and 5.0 on this 98se.,......


RE: NEWS about Messenger 5 and Windows XP by [white]shark on 01-13-2003 at 08:35 AM

Actually yunnyboy is correct sock. It is perfectly possible to have both MSN Messengers (not Windows Messenger) on ur harddisk running at the same time on the same platform. I have both 98 and 2k and on both systems it seems to work.

Greetz