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2 messengers at the same time? by Bookie on 07-31-2004 at 08:59 AM

My problem: i share my computer with my brother and he is always automatically logged on on msn messenger. Now the problem is that, even when i log on (on msn messenger 6.1), another earlier version of MSN Messenger logs him on. That doesn't happen all the time, but if it does, sometimes you see two icons of msn messenger in the icon-bar at the bottom of the screen. If there are two icons, then i just log him off, but most of the time you don't see a second one.
It is really annoying to have people of his contacts-list start to talk to me all of a sudden and i have no idea what i can do to fix that.

Can anybody help me?

Thanx


RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by Anubis on 07-31-2004 at 09:05 AM

1) Make sure the other program is MSN Messenger not Windows Messenger...
2) Go to the Control Panel (classic view) and look for add/remove programs...how many versions of MSN Messenger are there? How many versions of MSN Messenger are there?
3) Do you use a patched version of MSN Messenger? (Games Patch, Polygamy, Skinned ect.)
4) Update to the latest version of MSN Messenger (6.2.0137) from http://messenger.msn.com/


RE: RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by Bookie on 07-31-2004 at 09:49 AM

1) Make sure the other program is MSN Messenger not Windows Messenger...
i am pretty sure that it is MSN Messenger, because it has 'Msgplus Rocks' at the top of every conversation.

2) Go to the Control Panel (classic view) and look for add/remove programs...how many versions of MSN Messenger are there? How many versions of MSN Messenger are there?
I see Messenger Plus; MSN Messenger 6.1 and (roughly translated) an MSN application for Windows Messenger (maybe this is the problem?)

3) Do you use a patched version of MSN Messenger? (Games Patch, Polygamy, Skinned ect.)
No

Do i have to delete that application?
Downloading a new version doesn't help either...


RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by Sunshine on 07-31-2004 at 09:51 AM

Bookie, ask ur brother not to log in automaticly anymore ;)

To alter this: Tools, Options, General (tab)
uncheck "automaticly run Messenger when i log on to Windows" and also uncheck "Allow automatic sign in when connected to the internet".

By doin this MSN Messenger will not start on startup anymore...click the MSN messenger icon to start it. Note: your brother can still sign in "automaticly" meanin without typin his password by clickin on the login button and u can login underneath it (u have to type in ur password every time).


RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by Anubis on 07-31-2004 at 09:57 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Bookie
i am pretty sure that it is MSN Messenger, because it has 'Msgplus Rocks' at the top of every conversation.
That doesn't prove anything at all, load up the main messenger and it'll say either Windows Messenger or MSN Messenger at the top...
quote:
Originally posted by Bookie
an MSN application for Windows Messenger
I don't know of this, could you attach a screenshot?
RE: RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by Bookie on 07-31-2004 at 10:14 AM

I already tried to stop the automatically signing in, but it doesn't help.

And now that i need to know what exactly the second program is, it doesn't show up anymore... (i have my brother on my contacts list too and if the second program is running, i see him online, but now i don't...)

And i wouldn't know how to attach a screenshot or even make one... sorry


Anywayz... I'll come by later when i know more...

Thanks a lot for the help (K)


RE: RE: RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by Sunshine on 07-31-2004 at 10:19 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Bookie
I already tried to stop the automatically signing in, but it doesn't help.

And now that i need to know what exactly the second program is, it doesn't show up anymore... (i have my brother on my contacts list too and if the second program is running, i see him online, but now i don't...)

And i wouldn't know how to attach a screenshot or even make one... sorry


Anywayz... I'll come by later when i know more...

Thanks a lot for the help (K)



I think the program that still automaticly signs ur brother in is windowsmessenger, take a look at this post: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=26...d=258821#pid258821
RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by The Napster on 07-31-2004 at 01:53 PM

Use the link above (also has this program).
Or use the mesenger disable.zip

Instructions:
-Download & launch Messenger Disable
-Check "Disable Messenger Machine Wide" or "... For Current user" (whicever one u want)
-click Apply


RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by marissa on 07-31-2004 at 11:48 PM

To disable the log in at start up

Start>run> type in "control userpasswords2" without the quotes> advance (tab) >"manage passwords" and delete "passport.net" (or something like that). I hope that helped you with that problem.

I dont know why it would run two msns, it does on mine because i have the polygram patch on my msn, but other than that, i wouldnt know. Unless its msn messenger and windows messenger that opens.


RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by lopardo on 08-01-2004 at 12:26 AM

quote:
Originally posted by The Napster
Use the link above (also has this program).
Or use the mesenger disable.zip

Instructions:
-Download & launch Messenger Disable
-Check "Disable Messenger Machine Wide" or "... For Current user" (whicever one u want)
-click Apply
Don't use that for disabling Windows Messenger... Some plugins or other functionality could stop working if you do this... Check this thread for detailed info about this...

The Napster, stop posting that program and give the URL to that thread instead.
RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by Maniac on 08-01-2004 at 02:48 AM

Lopardo, I just did everything in cookie's post and it doesn't work... however there are a few things I didn't find...

I have Outlook 2003 and the option relating to windows messenger isn't there under the "other" tab.

Also, the following directories don't exist in my registry:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows\Run
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows\Load


:s


RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by lopardo on 08-01-2004 at 07:32 AM

I don't have Outlook 2003 so I can't check that. It doesn't matter if you don't have those keys in your registry. But what is your problem?


RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by Tochjo on 08-01-2004 at 10:19 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ningc_Maniac
Also, the following directories don't exist in my registry:
If you read Cookie's post carefully, it says that not all need to be present. Other versions of Windows do have that key, so for others, they might be needed.
RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by sasquatch on 08-02-2004 at 06:46 AM

to disable windows msg on my comp, i just renamed the msmsg.exe file under c:\program file\messenger to msmsg2.exe, if i ever need windows msg, i'll switch it bak but dun seem to cause ne conflicts with computer and prevents that damned program from running, lol


RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by CookieRevised on 08-02-2004 at 04:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by sasquatch
to disable windows msg on my comp, i just renamed the msmsg.exe file under c:\program file\messenger to msmsg2.exe, if i ever need windows msg, i'll switch it bak but dun seem to cause ne conflicts with computer and prevents that damned program from running, lol
Did you even bother reading the thread/post to where Sunshine, Lopardo and Tochjo linked????
quote:
using these methods will cripple other parts of the OS; MSN Messenger and some Plus!-plugins will not work 100% anymore (Remote assistance, Whiteboard, Song2Nick-plugin, etc...)

I strongly suggest you to read that post before posting this renaming-suggestion again ;)

And if you do suggest this renaming-method to someone, then clearly state that this method will break the functionality of some features of MSN Messenger, and also of some (popular) Plus! plugins. And that it also will cause problems in Outlook(Express) and possible other Windows Programs....



RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by sasquatch on 08-03-2004 at 04:09 AM

i read the post, however and it has not disabled remote assistance, i dun use whiteboard or song2nick and the all my plugs work fine, i also use outlook express and it has no problems viewing emails which is the only thing i use it for, and i haven't noticed ne other conflicts with ne other windows program ;) but if i find ne conflict i will do it the unlazy way, but for now, this remains as MY way :P altho i'm sure urs is reli good too :P:P


RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by CookieRevised on 08-03-2004 at 01:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by sasquatch
i read the post, however and it has not disabled remote assistance, i dun use whiteboard or song2nick and the all my plugs work fine, i also use outlook express and it has no problems viewing emails which is the only thing i use it for, and i haven't noticed ne other conflicts with ne other windows program ;) but if i find ne conflict i will do it the unlazy way, but for now, this remains as MY way :P altho i'm sure urs is reli good too :P:P
I didn't say that YOU must do it my way.... You can do whatever you like on your own computer. If it works for you because you don't use those broken things, then fine.... But do not suggest that method to other people as it is a bad method....

And song2nick was obviously only an example, there are many more plugins which will stop working...
RE: RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by Maniac on 08-03-2004 at 01:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lopardo
I don't have Outlook 2003 so I can't check that. It doesn't matter if you don't have those keys in your registry. But what is your problem?


My problem is that windows messenger still runs at startup :p
RE: 2 messengers at the same time? by lopardo on 08-04-2004 at 01:31 AM

Well, if you already checked Cookie's post, then I'd suggest to check what programs are autostarting with Windows with Autoruns. Go to the View menu and check "Show services".