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Translating Stuffplug-NG by riahc4 on 09-03-2004 at 10:23 PM

Would it be possible TB? I put my hand up first for spanish.

Translations (and translators):

  • Spanish (riahc4, RinoaKerrigan and/or jpg050)
  • Dutch (TheBlasphemer)
  • French (Apatik, Millenium_edition, RinoaKerrigan, and/or Ipab Atokanniv)
  • Swedish (Vilkku)
  • Finnish (Vilkku)
  • Catalan (KeyStorm and/or nus)
  • Portuguese (Edu115)
  • Arabic (MC.POP)
  • German (RinoaKerrigan)

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by Chrono on 09-03-2004 at 10:51 PM

that is indeed a good idea :P

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by Apatik on 09-03-2004 at 11:07 PM

lol, is it just a coincidence or did you read the thread (not mine) in the translation forum about translating msgplus!'s plugins in french? :p

anyways, it sure is a good idea :)

RE: RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by riahc4 on 09-04-2004 at 07:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Apatik
lol, is it just a coincidence or did you read the thread (not mine) in the translation forum about translating msgplus!'s plugins in french? :p

anyways, it sure is a good idea :)


lol nope i mostly hang around here in the plugins area. Im glad that people like the idea. We just need translators so if ur intrested sign up and for your language so when TB comes back from his camp he can see how Stuffplug-NG wants to get internacionalized. Stuffplug-NG needs to be a very big level on the plugin world because of its many features. So its gotta move around even more with translations!

I personally have no problem translating the install and config themselves into Spanish. :)
RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by Millenium_edition on 09-04-2004 at 07:32 PM

dutch/french for me.

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by ipab on 09-04-2004 at 07:41 PM

french for me (maybe me and M_E could be the french transltion team)

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by riahc4 on 09-04-2004 at 07:49 PM

theres only one problem to all of this now.....translating time


sure we would all like to translate but that would mean before TB releases a version to the public he would have to give the translators a copy before so they can translate and be done with it. this would mean the translators have to be trustworthy and could create conflicts.

If you wanna  know bout me check out my riahc3's profile (which for some reason wont let me PM mods/members, post, or do anything) and see im not that much of a troublemaker.

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by Apatik on 09-04-2004 at 08:17 PM

i'm ready to help for the french translation too but.. we don't even know if TB will agree with that, do we? *-)

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by Millenium_edition on 09-04-2004 at 08:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
bah, do you have any clue how much texts are used within StuffPlug-NG?!
Do you have ANY idea how fucking much work it'd be to convert all that to translatable stuff?!

oh well, I'll try...
and I'll do dutch myself :P
oh yeah damn, i forgot you were dutch :p
i guess i'm pretty useless then, since my both languages are taken... :s

good luck on translating it tough :p
RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by guesswho on 09-04-2004 at 08:52 PM

:| I certainly dont envy your job TB, are all the strings hard coded atm?

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by riahc4 on 09-04-2004 at 09:35 PM

quote:
bah, do you have any clue how much texts are used within StuffPlug-NG?!
Do you have ANY idea how fucking much work it'd be to convert all that to translatable stuff?!

oh well, I'll try...
and I'll do dutch myself

EDIT:
troubles up ahead. I just thought about it that SPNG's whole base is Ascii, which means that I'd have to change basicly everything for languages like chinese, hebrew, and other Unicode languages.
In short, don't expect anything like this in the near future...

ok how bout we f*ck special letters like accents and stuff like that and just put something that looks like it (sorry chinese). Would it be easier?


EDIT: Besides this is not something that should be done in a hurry. Remember that Plus! wasnt translated either at first....
RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by Vilkku on 09-05-2004 at 06:29 PM

I could do Swedish and Finnish, but if anyone else wants to do Finnish he/she can do it because Finnish is not my first language.

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by Edu115 on 09-06-2004 at 12:42 AM

Portuguese here..

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by red3vil on 09-07-2004 at 01:50 AM

ain't it possible if everyone made a language package, guess that is a lot easier than let everybody translate the whole program, at the end the functionality is nr1, service nr2.

and you could release seperatly, realease on finish.

dunno i've it is something, slap me if it aint't.

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by jpg050 on 09-07-2004 at 01:55 AM

Spain-Spanish for me ... xD Like to do hardcoded, tedious, repetitive stuff...

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by KeyStorm on 09-08-2004 at 03:42 PM

Catalan here. Although if strings are in ASCII I doubt most of the languages will be shown properly.
But well, I hope... nvm.

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by nus on 09-08-2004 at 08:48 PM

I can do catalan with keystorm xD

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by riahc4 on 09-08-2004 at 09:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by KeyStorm
Catalan here. Although if strings are in ASCII I doubt most of the languages will be shown properly.
But well, I hope... nvm.

I recommened that it would be done without any accents or special letters. sorry.
RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by Apatik on 09-08-2004 at 09:44 PM

a french translation without any accents? lol?

:-/

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by riahc4 on 09-09-2004 at 12:46 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Apatik
a french translation without any accents? lol?

:-/

we can have it only 2 ways.....

1: Faster translation but no accents or special letters
2: Accents and special letters but a VERY LONG delay because TB has to translate everything.

Personally my language (Spanish) has accents (which the hell with them noone accually uses them in chats or emails) and we have the N with the siggle over it. I cant think any of StuffPlug-NG's features that would require the N with the siggle.
RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by Apatik on 09-09-2004 at 01:03 AM

there's a lot of words with accents in french.. if they're missing the text would still be readable but.. so ugly *-)

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by CookieRevised on 09-09-2004 at 01:12 AM

ASCII includes characters like é, à, ü, ò, ñ, etc...

Like in any programming language, ASCII (uses 1 byte to define a character) is always supported. It is Unicode (uses 2 bytes to define a character) which must be programmed within the program.

ASCII-chart: http://www.asciitable.com/ or also see http://www.jimprice.com/jim-asc.htm for detailed info
Unicode-charts: http://www.unicode.org/charts/

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by Chrono on 09-09-2004 at 02:34 AM

u are taking this too seriously even though theblas didnt say he would do it any time soon :P
And the fact that u were the first one to say that u wanted to translate to spanish doesnt mean that u actually will be the translator :P

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by riahc4 on 09-09-2004 at 07:26 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Chrono
u are taking this too seriously even though theblas didnt say he would do it any time soon :P
And the fact that u were the first one to say that u wanted to translate to spanish doesnt mean that u actually will be the translator :P


...........hows that so? i give the idea and accually step in for the translating and dont translate. That be f'd up.
RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by CookieRevised on 09-09-2004 at 11:37 AM

quote:
Originally posted by riahc4
...........hows that so? i give the idea and accually step in for the translating and dont translate. That be f'd up.
It is TB who decides weither StuffPlug-NG is going to be translated or not...
It is TB who chooses the translators IF he decides that translations can be made...
Nobody else...
RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by KeyStorm on 09-09-2004 at 12:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
ASCII includes characters like é, à, ü, ò, ñ, etc...
You're not talking about the original ASCII, it was extended (as one of you links say. So it would be possible that TB used an older ASCII resource fo SP-NG, making it unable to use these characters.

Or maybe you're right :-/
RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by CookieRevised on 09-09-2004 at 01:21 PM

the "old" ASCII which you refer to (consisting of 128 characters) was "upgraded" to extended-ASCII many many many years ago... Every basic computerlanguage, PC, editor, etc. in short: everything (even how basic it is) uses at least extended ASCII.... In fact, it would be difficult to not use it, because ASCII consist of 1 byte and a byte has 256 possible values.

When anybody speaks of ASCII now-a-days, they mean extended ASCII...

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by Vilkku on 09-09-2004 at 04:30 PM

Came to my mind... Is there a text-to-ASCII program somewhere? It's most certainly doable. Or hold on a minute... Stuffplug talkers could do the trick.

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by Dung3onMast3r on 09-09-2004 at 05:18 PM

You cannot translate StuffPlug with te talkers...
It can be done if TheBlasphemer makes his plugin to read strings from an external file (just like msgplus does), or making several versions of the program, 1 for each language.
In this 2nd case the translation could start right now, using a hex editor to change the strings (I think so).

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by Millenium_edition on 09-09-2004 at 05:41 PM

trust me, you don't even want to try it. *-)

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by riahc4 on 09-09-2004 at 08:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
quote:
Originally posted by riahc4
...........hows that so? i give the idea and accually step in for the translating and dont translate. That be f'd up.
It is TB who decides weither StuffPlug-NG is going to be translated or not...
It is TB who chooses the translators IF he decides that translations can be made...
Nobody else...

I guess your right but it would be wrong not to be choosen when i gave out this idea.....buut oh well


TB i personally think if you translate the software you will get more people to download because it will quickly raise in popularity in other countries (just like Plus! did) this is your software tho and its up to u for u want some hard work for more people.
RE: Translating by RinoaKerrigan on 09-09-2004 at 11:37 PM

Hey if u need translations for this software or any other one, I can translate from:

English to spanish
Spanish to english
English to french
French to english
Spanish to french
French to Spanish
German to Spanish
German to english.

Contact me if u need a translation
liketobeoffthewall@hotmail.com

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by MC.POP on 09-09-2004 at 11:50 PM

i can translate from english to arabic if u want to?!?!?

RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by Chrono on 09-09-2004 at 11:58 PM

quote:
Originally posted by riahc4
I guess your right but it would be wrong not to be choosen when i gave out this idea.....buut oh well
i dont think that u were the first one to think in translating stuffplug :p

but lets stop the discussion :P
RE: Translating Stuffplug-NG by Dung3onMast3r on 09-10-2004 at 05:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by TheBlasphemer

Don't even DARE...
That's a violation to the license you agreed upon downloading -_-
I wasn't going to do it mainly cause I haven't got a clue of how to do it. I only know programs like Winamp are translated using this method.
I meant you could allow some people (translators) to make it.