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[Suggestion] Auto Responder by John on 10-02-2004 at 10:39 AM

can you implement an auto responder into Messenger plus! please Patchou? :) the same as what Messenger Discovery has. ive searched everywhere for one but cant find one and i think people who dont want MD or cant get it to work should be able to have one, like me. Messenger Plus! already automatically responds to Ping! commands, why cant it automatically respond to anything you choose? :) i think it should.

for example if someone says "hello" i could set my responder to automatically say "hello" back. it should have a filter so you can choose for which contacts it works for and also to choose when the responder is on, like if you're away you maybe wouldnt want it to be on so it doesnt confuse people when you say "hello" back to them while you're not even at your computer, hehe. but you should still be able to have the responder on even if you're away if you want.

the responder should also be able to reply with commands, like if you want your responder to reply with the (!WAT) command when someone asks you "what song are you listening to?" then it should do that and also should work, if you know what i mean. so you can set the responder to reply with commands aswell, and the commands should work instead of sending the command how it is. (like it should actually respond with the song you're listening to instead of responding with (!WAT) if you know what i mean)

(i think you should also be able to reply with / commands if you set them, so you could set your own special code that it responds to which puts you on "Away" for example, or any command like that. like for example if someone would say the code żawayż to me, the responder would reply with /away which would put my status on away.. and the same with any other / command there is)


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by Anubis on 10-02-2004 at 12:05 PM

Yes, it is possible with the Messenger Plus API, very possible. TB made a plugin that did this...But since MD already has this, if you want that feature just use that...at some point Plus! will include it someday probably...

quote:
Originally posted by Jaguar

i think you should also be able to reply with / commands if you set them, so you could set your own special code that it responds to which puts you on "Away" for example
What would the point in that be?
RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by John on 10-02-2004 at 12:57 PM

MD doesnt work for me and never has.. that's why i cant use that, and i dont want to use it just for one feature anyway :)

well if i was at a different computer for example, i could change my msn status on my home computer by just sending a command, or sign it out or whatever.


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by Anubis on 10-02-2004 at 01:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jaguar

well if i was at my work computer for example, i could change my msn status at my home computer by just sending a command, or sign it out or whatever.
True, but most people only have 1 MSN account...
RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by John on 10-02-2004 at 01:07 PM

doesnt mean that the auto responder shouldnt be able to do that :)


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by Millenium_edition on 10-02-2004 at 04:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Anubis
Yes, it is possible with the Messenger Plus API, very possible.
You are completely wrong my friend... the MP! API can not do such stuff... Can I PLEASE ask you to stop talking about programming?
quote:
TB made a plugin that did this...
by probably hooking  the convo window or doing packet sniffing or somethign...
RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by Anubis on 10-02-2004 at 04:58 PM

I believed it used a similar fashion to the /yeahright command...that auto-responds on a new message...therefore I assumed it was possible with the MP API...


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by At0miC on 10-03-2004 at 01:29 PM

Hey, that sounds good m8 I would like to have a feature like this. Work on this one, I can't wait :D

-At0miC


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by John on 10-06-2004 at 10:38 AM

thanx tim :) i hope it becomes a feature

come on patchou, do you think you will ever make this feature? it isnt such a big thing is it?


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by stuartbennett on 10-13-2004 at 09:40 AM

i would like this feature to be added it sounds quite cool.


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by John on 10-13-2004 at 10:40 AM

yeah, me too. have you read this thread Patchou? what do you think? if no-one makes this as a plugin then would you consider making it as a feature in msg plus!?


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by At0miC on 10-16-2004 at 10:12 AM

Yea, I agree


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by stuartbennett on 10-16-2004 at 11:01 AM

if i had the skills and abilities which i dont i would do it. but i only know a little bit of java and a little visual basic so unfortunately its beyond my abilities. but if theres anything i can do to help this happen let me know.


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by John on 10-20-2004 at 09:12 AM

you can help by getting Patchou to implement this as a feature, hehe :D

come on Patchou, have you read this thread yet? tell me what you think, please


RE: RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by stuartbennett on 10-20-2004 at 09:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Jaguar
you can help by getting Patchou to implement this as a feature, hehe :D

come on Patchou, have you read this thread yet? tell me what you think, please


the only chance of this ever being implemented as a feature is if patchou reads this thread. unfortunately noone can control the will of others so theres no way for us to make him read this. all we can do is post here and eventually if the thread gets large enough patchou will read it to see whats takinbg up so much of his forums space well thats the idea.
RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by Hordo on 10-21-2004 at 11:27 PM

Although I would want this functionality as well, it's not likely Patchou will do this. He has been asked about this before..

"Now, about your request, I could have agreed at some point but not anymore: I've had enough with people complaining about Spywares and Trojans distributed with Plus!, I don't want to do anything that could lead to real spywares. I know that's pretty radical but that's the reality of public softwares. People download anything, with caring for the consequences and accuses the developers (me here) when there is a problem... that's just life"

So because of the security risks and dumb people not knowing what they install or download we get hold out on this feature. Sad but true.


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by stuartbennett on 10-22-2004 at 06:42 AM

so are you saying this will never be implemented? or is it just it wont be implemented until people get smarter about what they are installing?


RE: RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by John on 10-22-2004 at 01:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Hordo
Although I would want this functionality as well, it's not likely Patchou will do this. He has been asked about this before..

"Now, about your request, I could have agreed at some point but not anymore: I've had enough with people complaining about Spywares and Trojans distributed with Plus!, I don't want to do anything that could lead to real spywares. I know that's pretty radical but that's the reality of public softwares. People download anything, with caring for the consequences and accuses the developers (me here) when there is a problem... that's just life"

So because of the security risks and dumb people not knowing what they install or download we get hold out on this feature. Sad but true.


since i have no idea how an auto responder is spyware ^o) and i basically have no idea what you're saying, i want Patchou to explain this to me.

what securtiy risks are there if when someone says "hello" your messenger replies with "hello" by itself? ^o) it does the same with ping comands unless you turn that off. also you would have to set the responder yourself to what it replies to and what it replies with

p.s. give me the link to that thread so i can read it myself please :)

scratch that, i read the thread and still dont understand how it's a security risk. Patchou, please explain :)
RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by At0miC on 10-22-2004 at 02:00 PM

I agree with jaguar, even I don't now him personal.
Anyway, what do you mean with securtiy risks? ^o) hmzz, just like when you say hello there to someone, that would also be a security risk then, cool..

Anyway Patchou, put it in Messenger Plus :D, or u will suck lol


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by stuartbennett on 10-22-2004 at 02:31 PM

yeah i dont get how this features a security risk either it makes no sense someone please explain this as to how its a security risk.


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by John on 10-29-2004 at 10:49 AM

Patchou?


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by CookieRevised on 11-08-2004 at 04:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jaguar
Patchou?
Can please stop posting in every possible thread that Patchou should read this?! If everybody is doing it then Patchou wouldn't have time to read anything to the point because of all the spam.

Patchou does his best to read everything. He only doesn't reply to everything. Be patient....
RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by John on 11-08-2004 at 11:10 PM

Ok, I'll stop. But i don't get it, cause he replies to other threads that are only hours old and have less serious topics (for example: this and this), but he doesn't reply to this topic which is a serious request, it's way older and lots of people have said they like the request and thinks it's a good idea..


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by Patchou on 11-08-2004 at 11:50 PM

Ok ok I'm here... doing this kind of thing would only be possible if I improved the plugin API to filter every message that's received but I'm still not sure it would be a security wisedecision... maybe later, I don't know. Auto-responder things are often nice little toys foracouple of days and then are completely useless... Plus! already have auto-messages for statuses, I think it's enough for what most people would want to do with this kind of feature :).


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by John on 11-09-2004 at 10:01 AM

Hehe, thank you for replying, even though it's bad news for me I'm glad I got to hear something from you. :)

I didn't think of how you would have to filter every message that's recieved, I don't do programming. But isn't this what the word filter feature already does anyway? It filters words in other contacts messages and changes them.

I don't know how it could be a security risk, but that's probably cause i don't know that much stuff about programming. Maybe you could explain how it's a security risk :), but it's ok if you don't have time cause I've heard how busy you always are, hehe.

I dissagree with it becoming a useless toy after a couple of days, atleast for me I know it would be usefull for as long as i keep using Messenger. :) I suppose that's just my opinion, but even if it would be useless for some people there would still be a lot of people that would want it knowing that it would be usefull to them. For example with the filter, I use it a lot, I have a lot of words that I filter, but I don't know anyone else that uses it.. I don't think that many people do, but that doesn't mean that it's a completely useless feature, cause there are still people out there that use it and appreciate it.

So thank you for replying, even though it was bad news for me. I'll just hope that someone will make an Auto Responder plugin. :)


RE: RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by Pure_BY on 11-16-2004 at 06:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
Ok ok I'm here... doing this kind of thing would only be possible if I improved the plugin API to filter every message that's received but I'm still not sure it would be a security wisedecision... maybe later, I don't know. Auto-responder things are often nice little toys foracouple of days and then are completely useless... Plus! already have auto-messages for statuses, I think it's enough for what most people would want to do with this kind of feature :).


Well, Patch, I agree, BUT. I found a usefull way of using auto responders. In fact... It is the only way I would use them:
auto respond /close, or even

/sevillaugh
#/close


to some messages, like people sending the URL of their website/poll/blog/online game/whatever other thing that is being sent constantly/regularly/often...


Btw... It would also be cool to put things like this in your nickanme: "Got new exclusive cool song of Prophecy - Chill, Relax (I'm back). Type \\get chill relax to download!!!"

And responder will be "/dropfile D:\My Documents\My Music\Prophecy\Other\Chill, Relax (I'm Back).mp3" So people can download it even if I'm not behind my PC ;)
RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by John on 11-16-2004 at 08:44 AM

Yeah, that's a great example of what you can do with an auto responder. :) Exactly what I had in mind. There are so many things you can do. It's up to you imagination to find out what. :)


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by stuartbennett on 11-16-2004 at 09:07 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
Ok ok I'm here... doing this kind of thing would only be possible if I improved the plugin API to filter every message that's received but I'm still not sure it would be a security wisedecision... maybe later, I don't know. Auto-responder things are often nice little toys foracouple of days and then are completely useless... Plus! already have auto-messages for statuses, I think it's enough for what most people would want to do with this kind of feature :).
yes patchou i agree that not everyone may use them, indeed for some they will be toys for a few days then theyll lose interest. however i finally figured out how i would use these. i often get links to tournaments from a league on cases ladder called sdladderranks. they constantly annoy me as i got loads of these links daily. now then i would love it if i could setup an auto responder that whenever a hyperlink containing sdladderranks was sent to me it auto closed the convo. now then whats to say that in x months time i might become a td on that league and want to turn this auto responder off. so maybe design this feature so you can set your auto responders but there should be a list of them somewhere that if the tickjbox is ticked the auto responder will be enabled if not ticked its disabled and not used.

you see i could easily identify a link from that tournament league as they all start "http://cgi6.igl.net/tourney/sdladderranks/" then have a tournament number at the end of the link so itd be easy enough. it would just be like a filter for emails. if certain words appear in emails they can be filtered to be other words or filtered out completely they are not security risks so why would this be?
RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by Patchou on 11-19-2004 at 01:28 AM

adding an auto-responder that reacts on some specific words could be interesting, I agree.... I'll add that to my very long todo list :)


RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by Concord Dawn on 11-19-2004 at 02:39 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
adding an auto-responder that reacts on some specific words could be interesting, I agree.... I'll add that to my very long todo list :)

I'm starting to think that you might give WDZ a run for his money Patch. :P
RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by stuartbennett on 11-19-2004 at 07:17 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
adding an auto-responder that reacts on some specific words could be interesting, I agree.... I'll add that to my very long todo list :)

thank you patchou.


quote:
Originally posted by Chaotic_Shield
quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
adding an auto-responder that reacts on some specific words could be interesting, I agree.... I'll add that to my very long todo list :)

I'm starting to think that you might give WDZ a run for his money Patch. :P

how comes you say that then? what plugin does WDZ make? no offence WDZ but there are so many plugins it is extremely hard to keep track of who created which 1.

RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by Pure_BY on 11-19-2004 at 04:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
adding an auto-responder that reacts on some specific words could be interesting, I agree.... I'll add that to my very long todo list :)
Thank you! :)
RE: RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by John on 11-19-2004 at 07:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
adding an auto-responder that reacts on some specific words could be interesting, I agree.... I'll add that to my very long todo list :)

Thank you very much. :) You do mean an auto-responder that replies to words/sentences that you set up yourself, don't you? You would have to set up every single word/sentence that you would want the auto-responder to reply to. (Just like you have to set up the word filter yourself.)
RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by Pure_BY on 11-19-2004 at 09:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jaguar
do mean an auto-responder that replies to words/sentences that you set up yourself, don't you? You would have to set up every single word/sentence that you would want the auto-responder to reply to. (Just like you have to set up the word
Ahm... Isn't that the only way of how an auto-reponder works? :-/

RE: [Suggestion] Auto Responder by John on 11-19-2004 at 10:45 PM

Yeah, but by the way Patchou said "some specific words" it sounded like he wanted to specify the words himself, and since that's not the point of the auto-responder i was just stating the right point to make sure Patchou understood (which I'm sure he did in the first place, but i was just making sure). :)