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Is this plugin created ? by VincentX on 10-17-2004 at 12:11 PM
My suggestion is that is it possible to make a plugin that will show in our contact list that someone blocked us as in like, they block us, we see their name in contact list online but we cant talk to them. =)) is it possible ? 
RE: Is this plugin created ? by toddy on 10-17-2004 at 12:14 PM
no its not possible !!!!!
RE: Is this plugin created ? by VincentX on 10-17-2004 at 12:18 PM
icc... ty.... but why? lol why cant it be possible.
RE: Is this plugin created ? by Menthix on 10-17-2004 at 12:19 PM
No, there is no plugin like this and there won't be one in the future either. The reason is because it's impossible to check if somebody has blocked you.
In the past it was possible to check if somebody blocked you because of a bug in MSN's protocol. However, Microsoft has fixed this and there is no way you can check your blocked status anymore. Read more here: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=30...d=298874#pid298874
RE: Is this plugin created ? by x2zen on 10-17-2004 at 12:29 PM
Sure its possible, just use http://onlinestatus.org/
RE: Is this plugin created ? by toddy on 10-17-2004 at 12:31 PM
quote:block checkers for msn do not work no more
Originally posted by A. Madsen
Sure its possible, just use http://onlinestatus.org/
RE: RE: Is this plugin created ? by x2zen on 10-17-2004 at 12:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by toddy
block checkers for msn do not work no more
no?
Status for my DANISH bot:
![[Image: ukendt.jpg]](http://turdinc.kicks-ass.net:6969/msn/whgamebot@hotmail.com/onurl=www.weehii.dk/gfx/msn/online.jpg/offurl=www.weehii.dk/gfx/msn/offline.jpg/unknownurl=www.weehii.dk/gfx/msn/ukendt.jpg)
and the code for that is:
[url=http://turdinc.kicks-ass.net:6969/message/msn/whgamebot@hotmail.com][img]
http://turdinc.kicks-ass.net:6969/msn/whgamebot@hotmail.com/onurl=www.weehii.dk/gfx/msn/online.jpg/offurl=
www.weehii.dk/gfx/msn/offline.jpg/unknownurl=www.weehii.dk/gfx/msn/ukendt.jpg
[/img][/url]
RE: Is this plugin created ? by Menthix on 10-17-2004 at 01:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by A. Madsen
Sure its possible, just use http://onlinestatus.org/
quote:
Originally posted by A. Madsen
no? ... Status for my DANISH bot:
Both of you use onlinestatus.org. However, this is not a blockchecker but a status indicator. The diffresubsnce is that you need to allow these kind of services yourself to make it work.
Fore example i just subscribed at onlinestatus.org: http://osi.kanadian.net:8080/msn/rabbyte@hotmail.com . As you see is shows that i'm offline, but i'm not at this moment. The reason because of this is the the onlinestatus.org bot is not in my allow list. By default MSN Messenger will not allow any unknown or blocked adress to know your status. The reason because of this is simple. In MSN Messenger go to: Tools > Options... > Privacy. Most of you will see that "All Others" are blocked, this is configured like this by default. Only if you put "All Others" or the adress from the olninestatus.org bot on your allow list this will work. this is also the reason why blockcheckers won't work. Every blockchecker has an adress, if that adress isn't on your allow list it will only see you as offline.
It's also in their FAQ:
quote:
Originally posted by onlinestatus.org FAQ
Q: Why is my status indicator for MSN showing offline?
A: Check your Privacy settings. Make sure All other users is in your Allow list.
RE: RE: Is this plugin created ? by x2zen on 10-17-2004 at 02:52 PM
quote:It is a block checker, see its show that my bot is online, but if it is offline on your contact list, then it have blocked you.
Originally posted by MenthiX
Both of you use onlinestatus.org. However, this is not a blockchecker but a status indicator. The diffresubsnce is that you need to allow these kind of services yourself to make it work.
I know about all that Allow list, but im only telling you that it is possible.
RE: Is this plugin created ? by Menthix on 10-17-2004 at 04:00 PM
quote:I can see that, but that doesn't mean that it is a block checker. This is a service to show your own online status on a webpage. Just like ICQ has (or had?) that feature build in.
Originally posted by A. Madsen
It is a block checker, see its show that my bot is online
quote:Alright. But the purpose of a blockchecker is that it tells you if the contact has blocked you or not. Like you say: If the contact is offline on your list but onlinestatus.org says online (or away/busy/etc.) then you know you are blocked. However, when it says offline at your contactlist and onlinestatus.org you still don't know anything.
Originally posted by A. Madsen
I know about all that Allow list, but im only telling you that it is possible.
I just took a test with 13 contacts (those were all online contacts at that moment). From the 13 online contacts it said that 10 of them were offline. This is abviously not correct, the allow lists of these contacts causes that. Only 3 adresses returned the right status.
Real blockcheckers like they existed in the past always returned the right status and by-passed allow lists. Such blockcheckers don't work anymore, systems like onlinestatus.org can only be relied on when it returns a status other then offline/unknown.
RE: Is this plugin created ? by FrozernFire on 10-18-2004 at 03:37 AM
block checkers do not work if your contact block all other users except friends but do work if they do not block all other users. and just to let you know, most people block all other users. block checkers DO work, but only 5% of the time.
RE: Is this plugin created ? by CookieRevised on 10-18-2004 at 03:26 PM
quote:The purpose of a blockchecker is to check if you are blocked.
Originally posted by FrozernFire
block checkers DO work, but only 5% of the time.
Since there is NO way to make sure that a contact has the "allow others to see my status"-option turned off, you will NEVER know for sure if someone has blocked you.
Hence blockcheckers are not reliable and DO NOT work, and are in fact simple statuscheckers...
These are facts! Despite what people are telling you or what you might think...