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Updating by Striker on 10-26-2004 at 12:31 AM
I thought that Plus! had an auto update feature on it that checked once a week to see if there was a new update?.. and also (might be part of the problem as well), just before i updated to version .25.106, i clicked the update button and it said it was updated.. so has the checking thing been disabled, or is possibly something else blocking it on my side.. i have a firewall, but the auto update has worked before, and i dont see any indication when i do click the "update" button that my firewall has blocked it.. any solutions on why this might be happening?
RE: Updating by matty on 10-26-2004 at 02:54 AM
The auto update was disabled to prevent a large server load as far as I know. It is activated some time after the release.
RE: Updating by stuartbennett on 10-26-2004 at 07:07 AM
well then its not really very useful then is it? if you cant update from the about plus screen but can from the website it makes no difference cause if i know i have a new relase of plus coming out on a date im ging to clog up your site all day by constantly browsing it until the updates there if i download the update from the site its no different than downloading it from the about plus screen other than at the about screen you cant save the download file. so if we all download from the site we are clogging up the server just the same as we would during auto update so why disable it it makes no sense.
RE: Updating by RaceProUK on 10-26-2004 at 11:58 AM
Compare:
- A several thousand downloading from the website.
With:
- Upwards of 4 million downloading via auto-update.
Guess which one will clog the servers?
RE: Updating by CookieRevised on 10-26-2004 at 12:01 PM
quote:No, the auto-update is only activated 1 week after the first new release (see the reasons below). And because of that there wasn't a new version notification yet.
Originally posted by Striker
I thought that Plus! had an auto update feature on it that checked once a week to see if there was a new update?.. and also (might be part of the problem as well), just before i updated to version .25.106, i clicked the update button and it said it was updated.. so has the checking thing been disabled, or is possibly something else blocking it on my side
quote:No....
Originally posted by stuartbennett
well then its not really very useful then is it? if you cant update from the about plus screen but can from the website it makes no difference cause if i know i have a new relase of plus coming out on a date im ging to clog up your site all day by constantly browsing it until the updates there if i download the update from the site its no different than downloading it from the about plus screen other than at the about screen you cant save the download file. so if we all download from the site we are clogging up the server just the same as we would during auto update so why disable it it makes no sense.
It is very usefull!
The 1 week delay on the auto-update is very good and has his reasons. The delay has always been there for the fact that if something needs to be changed after a version is released, it can be done before X million of users will recieve the update notification and try to download the new version.
If there wasn't a delay then those X million users will have to update again in a short timespan and that is what is meant with useless serverload. The handfull of people who refresh the downloadpage every second to see if there is a new version wont clog up the server...
To take raceprouk's good short example:
without the implemented delay:
- A several thousand downloading from the website.
(twice, because a new small bugfix update is released shortly after the new release => and this happens from time to time, see my Version List)
- millions of people downloading via auto-update.
(again twice!!!!, because a new small bugfix update is released shortly after the new release)
with the implemented delay:
- A several thousand downloading from the website.
(twice, because a new small bugfix update is released shortly after the new release)
- millions of people downloading via auto-update.
(only once, because they recieved the update notification after the new bugfix has been uploaded)
RE: Updating by Striker on 10-26-2004 at 07:54 PM
ahh, gotcha, makes sense then.. guess i didn't wait the full week.. and just to clarify something for me.. the "Update" link in the about page also works the same way i asume?
Thanks..
RE: RE: Updating by CookieRevised on 10-27-2004 at 06:21 AM
quote:Yes, because the delay is performed* on the servers, not in Messenger Plus! itself...
Originally posted by Striker
ahh, gotcha, makes sense then.. guess i didn't wait the full week.. and just to clarify something for me.. the "Update" link in the about page also works the same way i asume?
Thanks..
*The method to see if there is an update is that Plus! downloads a small textfile from the Plus! server and compares the content with its own version number. This textfile contains 1 number: the "latest" version number (currently the textfile contains "3106"), and Patchou waits a week before updating this textfile on the server...
RE: Updating by Striker on 10-27-2004 at 10:57 PM
k, thanks. just wanted to make sure this wasn't a bug, or there wasn't somethign on my side blocking it.