As you may well now, there are already the Spanish Messenger Plus! forums as anounced in "Foros del Plus! en español / Spanish Plus! Forums".

But others are coming very soon

sneakpeek:


English forums: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/
Spanish forums: http://msgplus.keystorm.net/
French forums: http://msgplus.exstudio.net/
Dutch forums: --not yet open for public--


PS: to create foreign Messenger Plus! forums, ask Patchou first!

Can there be a Danish one as well?

What about the technical aspect - who provides the server?

hmm thats cool what about hebrew Me and sock can be in charge muahhaha

Even a Dutch one?.... we Dutch people (and people from Belgium like you ) are much better in English than for example the French (I don't know about the Spanish) .. I don't really think it will be needed very much, but still it is a fine concept

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Originally posted by Markus
Even a Dutch one?.... we Dutch people (and people from Belgium like you ) are much better in English than for example the French (I don't know about the Spanish)

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Originally posted by ZrednaZ
Can there be a Danish one as well?What about the technical aspect - who provides the server?

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
English forums: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/
Spanish forums: http://msgplus.keystorm.net/
French forums: http://msgplus.exstudio.net/
Dutch forums: --not yet open for public--

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But also remember that making an official Plus! forum demands much work. Just making one for the sake of it is NOT a good idea!

Firstly make sure there is actually a demand for it, so that it won't die out in a few months. Also, and this a very important part: make sure you can provide enough decent support for it: creating a forum and not knowing how to handle the questions/suggestions/problems/etc from the users, or providing insufficient or wrong support is very bad advertisement (not only for your board, but also for Messenger Plus! community!)....

Also, don't forget that there are some rules and pointers which you need to follow. Eg: Talking about other translations then the foreign one of the forum in the "Translation" forum is not encouraged as the translators will not attend every foreign forum and even maybe can't speak the language. The same goes with Messenger Plus! bugs, if one is reported in a foreign forum it has to be reported here also. Patchou can't go reading all the forums (and even understand all the languages).

etc...

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
French forums: http://msgplus.exstudio.net/

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Originally posted by Omar

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
French forums: http://msgplus.exstudio.net/

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Cookie...Im not sure that Brian was ready to launch the french boards...

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[20:05] <Brian> in minutes the french comminuty will be out (but the langauge is still being worked on)
[20:10] <Cookie|Busy> ok, give me a yell when it happens, I'll update my post then with the link
[20:13] <Brian> COOKIE
[20:13] <Brian> TIS ALREADY!!!
[20:13] <Cookie|Busy> ok
[20:13] <Cookie|Busy> hang on
[20:13] <Brian>
[20:14] <Brian> I'll set it topic in #msgplus.fr
[20:14] <Cookie|Busy> done
[20:14] <Brian> me too

We at the Spanish community saw before that many users were left out for having problems with English. And we have the luck of being the second most used translation (España + Latin). Make sure you can count with experienced users and the consent of Patchou. Or you will have to call it unofficial in order to match the specifications.
Other than this if you are on the way to open an international forum think of every detail before it happens.

Remember to share your knowledge: If there has been posted an unknown bug, you should notify it here. I'd suggest to do it this way:

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Originally posted by Brian @ [url
http://msgplus.exstudio.net]Bienvenue[/url] tout le monde a les forums de Messenger Plus! en francais! Soyez toujours gentil

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Translation:
Welcome to everyone to the French Messenger Plus! forums! Remember to be always nice

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[quote=Brian @ http://msgplus.exstudio.net]Bienvenue tout le monde a les forums de [b]Messenger Plus![/b] en francais! :) Soyez toujours gentil ;)[hr][i]Translation:[/i]
Welcome to everyone to the French [b]Messenger Plus![/b] forums! :) Remember to be always nice ;)[/quote]

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how come there isnt a link to these forums on http://www.msgplus.net/community.php

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
make sure you can provide enough decent support for it:

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
yes he was... otherwise I wouldn't give the link of course...

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hmm... there are a lot of spelling mistakes in the French forum
I can help Brian for the translation if he wants

agree -_-

and AFAIK there's no french translation of mybb
not very.. handy

yeah i like the idea of having forums in different languages, but only people who really know about plus! should made it. If they are well known members here. thats better .

Anyway i think that these languages are enough. why would u want an "afrikaans" forums if there aint that many users of that translation? (just an example).

Note: if you're makign a forum in your language and want it to be "official", youneed toemail me at mplus@patchou.com. I'll do a quick check and I'll then add it to msgplus.net (on the translatged page correspondingto yoru language). Having new forums is a good idea, as longas they are taken care of .

Patchou

I already dropped an email!

I'm gonna help Brian with the French boards. It's good practice for my French anyways.

i might feel like helping you but i don't have much time these days..
maybe later on ^^

Ok! Thanks loads Apatik! I'm feeling forward working with you, Would you add me on MSN? (profile)

It will be a good practice for my French as well

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Originally posted by Choli
small green on blue... aww.. poor eyes

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Originally posted by Chrono
Anyway i think that these languages are enough. why would u want an "afrikaans" forums if there aint that many users of that translation? (just an example).

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and AFAIK there's no french translation of mybb

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Originally posted by Guido
the spanish one that the Spanish Forum team did)

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hmm thats cool what about hebrew Me and sock can be in charge muahhaha

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Originally posted by Chrono
if u like invision better, go ahead

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Originally posted by Guido
There is NO translation of mybb

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How about making a board with one forum for each of the smaller languages?

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Originally posted by Chrono
Omar did it (hey i know its a bit offtopic, but he will complain anyway ). even though we helped him a bit with some spelling mistakes and stuff.

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Originally posted by Guido
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small green on blue... aww.. poor eyes


Eh?

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Originally posted by sock
How about making a board with one forum for each of the smaller languages?

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
But also remember that making an official Plus! forum demands much work. Just making one for the sake of it is NOT a good idea!

Firstly make sure there is actually a demand for it, so that it won't die out in a few months.

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Originally posted by DureX
hmm thats cool what about hebrew Me and sock can be in charge muahhaha

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LOL, we'd be the only two users there...

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1 or 2 people aren't enough to have a support team.

No offense Durex, but to be able to give decent and correct support you need to know a lot about Messenger and Messenger Plus!, so start providing correct support in here first.

Making a foreign forum is asking to trust you blindly with it (as nobody else can read what you write). For all we know, you could be rude to people and telling/suggestion wrong or incomplete things, which is a bad thing for Messenger Plus! as a whole.
(I'm not saying you do though, but this is why not everyone can start a foreign forum)

Patchou must strust the people of the foreign forums with his baby and should be able to sleep well without thinking "Are they giving the correct support?". So, it is not step to be taken lightly.

If you look at the mods/admins on the foreign forums, you'll reconize the most trusted/respected people from this forum there. People that have prooven themself in the past on this English forum and know Messenger Plus! inside-out.



Also, don't forget that people who don't speak English are still welcome here on the English forums, as long as they or someone else provide an translation, so that the helpers can understand what the people are saying.

The point of the foreign forums is that it will be much easier for the people as well for the helpers if they can post directly in their own language without constantly needing to provide a translation. Eg: For the 10 people who only know Hebrew that would come here to ask questions once in a while, you can easly provide a translation for them. It wouldn't be much work and you wouldn't constantly be busy with it.

How do we know that the Spanish, French, Dutch forums will be succesfull? Well, we don't. But if we look at the use of the translations of Messenger Plus!, it seems that there are a lot of people speaking these languages. This also means that there must be a lot of people who could be potentional forumusers.

Side-note: in two weeks the Hispanic Board has reached 290 members.

The board can be successful if it's good advertised (in local Messenger websites and in important sources like mess.be, like we did).

But first of all you have to be able to create it. And I can't keep from agreeing with Cookie's post .

It's also very important you have a vast experience on this board because you will be able to take important decisions and to be able to act consequently as admin of a community. It's not only freedom and ownership. It's like having a store and having to handle with costumers. The better your behaviour is, the better the quality of the board. If you spam, people will spam, if you keep helping with quality, people will feel amazed about your board.

One could write a book on how to lead a good book (that one is not me, of course )

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Originally posted by DureX
Just not that anyone knows great english

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That's why I opened french forums, In Messenger plus french help channel, #msgplus.fr, I see lots of people come, and when I am away (i'm maybe the only one helping most of time), I see all depressed people

After I saw this topic, I decided to run those forums!

[QUOTE=Language Stats (Patchou)]Language Name       Users-n   Users-%
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English              1,410k    26.45%
French                 760k    14.26%[/QUOTE]

Second used language!

A general multi-lingual forum would be very cool. What about, instead of having to move them all, you just have a drop down menu with forums in each language, with a link to that page. Also, that way you could keep people from being redirected to "unofficial" forums.

Each official forum will be listed on the msgplus site. Also nobody of us will redirect people from an official forum to a non official forum.

Also, there is nothing that can be done to prevent people from making their own "fan"-forums. If they advertise it well, then yes maybe people we go there. But those forums will never be suggested as a link to go to and they will never be listed on msgplus.net as a support forum.