Hi everyone!

I'm finally back from my old country where I spent 3 very busy days meeting people and compensating for time adjustment. At the MSN Event, I met with Dwergs (mess.be), Underdoc (msnfanatic), Tom (Neowin.net), Vitch (mess-france) and a couple of other guys from the French webmaster scene (like from Hardware.fr, a great site but you got to understand french). I also had the pleasure to meet with one of the most successful Messenger Plus! plugin developer, TheBlasphemer, as well as Apatik, the french lead translator.

I invite you to read the great article posted by Tom on Neowin, it pretty much sums up what I have in mind regarding the event. By the way, I have to say that Tom was really a nice guy, and so was everyone I met in Paris in fact. The atmosphere was great, I didn't even had to show my "it's optional" t-shirt too much, especially made for the event (picture soon ). The guys from Microsoft France and their marketing team were genuinely interested in what we had to say. Messenger users in France are very lucky to have such a great marketing team, the people at Heaven were professional, with up to date ideas about how to interest today's users and some of them were even pretty charming (call me Arthur!). I never met the MSN Marketing people from Redmond but I do hope they are as dedicated to their work.

I'd also like to stop some rumours right away: Microsoft doesn't intend to buy Messenger Plus! and I don't intend to sell it. We met to discuss the future of both our softwares and also to start a tighter relationship, that's all. During the afternoon we saw many great Messenger 7 related stuff (can't talk about it so don't ask) and I realised that I got to stop being lazy, being selfish with my 7 hours of daily sleep and start working on new exciting features for my baby if I want to keep your attention in 2005 (I'll also post a new beta soon to correct the important bugs you found since last Wednesday).

I'll post one or two pictures soon, as soon as Dwergs will have sent me his ok (Tom, if you read this, mail me and I'll send you the pics directly). More information about the new version will probably be posted in a week or two on mess.be, msnfnatic and neowin; I'll keep on concentrating on Plus! 3.40, there's sooo much I wanna do. Meanwhile, prepare yourself for some exciting Messenger news!

Patchou

Welcome back, now get fixing the memory leak!

welcome back!
Nice u finally ceared up the dodgy rumours

and i wanna see the pics, post them soon!

Great news, Patch!

Can't wait for the pictures

Awesome
Welcome back Patch!

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I didn't even had to show my "it's optional" t-shirt too much,

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Welcome back! Now we know that Microsoft cloned you instead of kidnapping.

hmm i hope u enjoyed a lil vacation to your home country. Last time i was there I was bugged by poor people asking me money in the centre ville . Too much poverty in France, the gov has to do smth about it

Did they say or give you any hints when the Public beta of MSN Messenger7 might be released

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Did they say or give you any hints when the Public beta of MSN Messenger7 might be released

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Welcome back patchou What do you brought for us? J/k

welcome back patch!

hope paris was nice!

welcome back patch can't wait to see those piccys

Welcome back. While you were in France, did you visit landmarks?? (Lachquo caves (I dont think that how its spelt), Eifel tower etc)

Was it fun seeing the new feature in MSN, if they showed any??(not asking for the names of the feature however)

Lol to the shirt. Cant wait to see it.

*offtopic: Demand WDZ update to myBB gold when it comes out lol*

welcome back patch hope you enjoyed your trip to france. my dads auntie caroline lives in france in taloous. i know its not spelt like that but i cant spell foreign place names. i cant wait to see the pictures and i hope the event inspired some ideas for improving plus. hey not that its not already awesome but nothings perfect right?

Welcome back Cyril .
I expect a new beta by tomorrow, one hour of sleep will be enough from now on .
Nah, don't rush it and enjoy your work and sleep .

Wb. relax while you can cuz soon enough your ass will be glued to the chair

welcome back!

*no kidnapping, no action* aww... jkjk

Welcome back

Welcome back.

Thats some great news Patchou!
And welcome back from FR!
[KEEP IT UP]

Welcome back Patchou. It sounds like you had a good time in Paris, I wish i could have been there too to meet you all.

It's exciting hearing you talk about the future of Plus! and i like what Dwergs said on mess.be:

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All I can say for now is -even if you're using the MSN Messenger 7 BETA already- YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET!

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Welcome back Patch. Keep up the good work on MP! and try to get enough sleep. We don't want you turning into a zombie now do we.....

@ t-shirt. Can't wait to see the pictures.

Great to see you had a nice time.

If you can get a t-shirt made , Can you get a jacket made?

Its getting cold down here and I wish I had an Messenger Plus! Jacket

(Im not actually expecting him to make me a jacket , Dont make a smart reply)

welcome back patch you should be relaxing more or else you'll work yourself to death and we dont want that. 
hehe i would love to see that "its optional" t-shirt

Welcome back, cant wait to see those pictures, and the new beta of Plus!

welcome back patchou
* Eljay wants some boxer shorts saying "these are optional"
looking forward to the new plus!
keep up the good work

nice to hear you're back and ready for some action
hope you had a good time (you made me wish I could visit France again, like I did 3 years ago)

so patchou. any hints as to what your going to add in the new beta of plus? or is it just bug fixes? in any case i hope you are able to finish it soon.

Please please please read my Auto Responder topic, Patchou, and consider putting it in a future version of Messenger Plus!. Pleeease

Wahooo patchou's back

If people had actually listened to what was said, then we would not have these rumors. We have these rumors because many of the people from irc made up there own versions, as like a game of chiense wispers.

If you do take time to read your pm's patchou, please respond me my theory on plus, the new messenger, and your recent trip.

Thank you

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Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
heh, saw something speaking of poverty in france
I'm sure patch will understand when i say "postcard written in english" "fooding my children"
Anyway, don't worry too much, the pidgeons will take over soon and then there won't be any poverty anymore! heck, i bet there won't even be humans there after the pidgeons have attacked!

(prolly only apatik and patch will get this post )

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Originally posted by Patchou
I'm finally back from my old country where I spent 3 very busy days meeting people and compensating for time adjustment.

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Originally posted by Patchou
During the afternoon we saw many great Messenger 7 related stuff (can't talk about it so don't ask) and I realised that I got to stop being lazy, being selfish with my 7 hours of daily sleep and start working on new exciting features for my baby if I want to keep your attention in 2005 (I'll also post a new beta soon to correct the important bugs you found since last Wednesday).

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Originally posted by Patchou
I'll keep on concentrating on Plus! 3.40, there's sooo much I wanna do.

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welcome back Patchou! WOW you just seem reanimated to start on something new all of a sudden lol oh well as always i expect good things in the future!


I accually envy you that you got to meet the great TB and alot of of MSN people. And it seems we really AINT ready for MSN 7 from the news posts on Neowin, Mess.be, and others!

Hehe, welcome back Patch!

Kool patch

Welcome back and can't wait for those pics.

Welcome back patch! Good to have  you back

I trust you enjoyed your epic journey

lol

Stiggy, what did i say to you:

Removed.

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Originally posted by dwergs
PS: Patchou is still held captive in Paris. I've heard he's being tickle-tortured until he agrees to replace the optional sponsor program in Plus! with MSN Toolbar.

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Hey welcome back patchou! Hoped you enjoyed your trip, you deserve a break from time to time as long as you keep making plus the best you can lol joking.

Welcome back Patchito! Nice to know you've enjoyed your stance in La France

Welcome back! good to see you haven't misteriously dissapeared....

good 2 know u r back from france!!hope u had fun keep up the good work patchou!!

For reference, I almost never check my PMs (too much of them, just email me ). As for my visitof Paris with TB and Aparik, it was quite nice and yes, the pigeons are really preparing something.

The new beta will be bug fixes only, new stuff will be for the release .

Sounds like you had fun,Welcome back

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Originally posted by Patchou
For reference, I almost never check my PMs (too much of them, just email me ). As for my visitof Paris with TB and Aparik, it was quite nice and yes, the pigeons are really preparing something.

The new beta will be bug fixes only, new stuff will be for the release .

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Originally posted by Stigmata
We have these rumors because many of the people from irc made up there own versions, as like a game of chiense wispers.

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from irc
23:08:22] <Stigmata> so what do you guys feel about selling out?
[23:08:31] <Underlord> =\?
[23:08:32] <@Tochjo> selling out?
[23:08:44] * Joins: angie20 (~msgplus@MsgPlus-81E19958.upc-e.chello.nl)
[23:08:54] <Stigmata> well not excatly selling out
[23:09:00] <Stigmata> but something you have done for ages
[23:09:07] <Stigmata> and a big company come and buy this thing
[23:09:08] <Stigmata>
[23:09:13] <Stigmata> what do you think about it
[23:09:15] <Underlord> ?
[23:09:25] <@Tochjo> buying Messenger Plus!?
[23:09:32] <Stigmata> not excatly
[23:09:39] <Stigmata> all should come clear soon

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Originally posted by Stigmata
We have these rumors because many of the people from irc made up there own versions, as like a game of chiense wispers.

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if u didnt make such dodgy comments, there wouldnt have been any rumours








and more

* Chrono slaps stigmata around a bit with a large trout.

i wasnt there anyway, so...

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I can't post the convo without his permission so i won't

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Originally posted by Demandred

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Originally posted by traxor
I can't post the convo without his permission so i won't

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Come on trax, brighten up this place a little, Shawnz did by starting the thread bout Microsoft haters

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Is this why a recent beta.microsoft survey regarding "future MSN" has questions about implementing features that MSNPlus already does?

I.E. Block whole groups, login as Offline mode, rename contacts.

I can't find a forum that is unlocked to post this message therefore.....
I downloaded Messenger plus and picked up a trojan virus swizzor.2.AQ   i am sure you are aware of this problem from other messages posted.   My concern is how do I get ride of it now....

Angelwings

Hello Angelwings,

It is understandable that you are a little worried when you see such a warning, and that you will not believe me right away when I say that the warning you see is a false one.

However, I do hope that after reading Note about Trojan detection, you will understand that the error is not true. It might help knowing that you are not the only one who reported it, so it's an easy mistake to make

I hope this has cleared it up for you; if not, just ask another question

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Hello Angelwings,

It is understandable that you are a little worried when you see such a warning, and that you will not believe me right away when I say that the warning you see is a false one.

However, I do hope that after reading Note about Trojan detection, you will understand that the error is not true. It might help knowing that you are not the only one who reported it, so it's an easy mistake to make

I hope this has cleared it up for you; if not, just ask another question

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i know patchou wouldnt harm our system from what ive seen hes not that kind of person. personally i cant say ive seen the trojan/virus alert that was mentioned on that thread. however heres an idea for patchou. ever noticed that when installing stuffplug features all the added software thats not part of the main install if selected launches its own seperate installation program with its own seperate license agreement and such? well maybe if plus did that wih its sponsor where if at the sponsor screen you select the i agree option when you click next it launches the sponsor program in its own installation then users would notice that plus is installing another program on their system thus drawing there attention to read things prperly in future. its just a thought patchou.

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Has anyone else notieed the decrease in sponsor installations

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cheers Patchou !!!
can't wait to see you try and entertain us next year with more addons not that you need them but o well never the less

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Originally posted by Patchou
I did, and by a lot if it can make some of you feel happier .

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Hy patchou ive seen that there is something missing in msgplus!

have you see at right side of were you put tha game list
that is to block the person or change the window color there is missing the plus! thing that is on there were it said s you other plus! options like put thw winamp song click on it instead of writing the code that is (!WAT) that part of plus is missing if you understand what i'm saying please correct that mistake that is missing from plus

Ok

If you don't understand here is a display picture of what i'm saying



Rodrigo

www.imperio-msn.tk

Thanks for your time

That wasnt a plus! feature. Plus just added a menue to go into that. Notice how in msn 6.2 there were all msn mesenger features and the a plus area?

Welcome Back From France Cyril.

hope you had some time to see Paris

welcome back dude

Glad to see you had a fun time patchou. May I ask why france contacted you and not Microsoft in the US?


also ps: Undies contact me plz

What did they say more specifically regarding user statistics?

Did they say anything at all about the future of Messenger? Seems to me (by reading Neowin's summary) that they did nothing but show you some new, non-messenger related M$ programs... so you could go home and promote them on your forums, I presume...

So, any news on Mess? Does their 'keep it simple' policy apply to Messenger, cuz it doesn't seem that way by looking at the Mess 7 beta. Some day people will start looking for a more simple alternative

Welcome back Patch!! i hope u got some nice vacation..
Hope u got some great stuff in ur mind
I can wait to see some new stuff

Que  bien  que regresaste, pensabamos  que  te habian raptado los de microsoft  

esperaremos  con ansias esas fotos

xolot what doews that say i dont speak that language.

Cant wait for the pics..Welcome back

Welcome back Patchou and thanks for your work and pation!

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xolot what doews that say i dont speak that language.

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That well that you returned, I think that you had collect information of those of Microsoft we will wait for those photos with anxieties

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Originally posted by xolotzitl
Que  bien  que regresaste, pensabamos  que  te habian raptado los de microsoft   

esperaremos  con ansias esas fotos

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"That well that you returned, we were thinking that those of microsoft had kidnapped you. we will wait with avidity for these photos"
Maybe?

That can't be translated directly (and even less with a crappy online translator), because he uses special constructs. Anyway, the translation would be something similar to:

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Yay!, you came back; we thought Microsoft had kidnapped you.

We're waiting those photos eagerly

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Originally posted by Choli
That can't be translated directly (and even less with a crappy online translator), because he uses special constructs. Anyway, the translation would be something similar to:

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Hey Patchou....welcome home bud!!! There is nothing like the Canadian life EH!! if you know what I mean lol hehehe.

Anyways, I just become member to this forum since I was advertising your little program on my website www.rodvial.com and I noticed that your banners are not showing!

Hope you were aware of this.

Well let me know whey will be putting some new flash banners hmm like the one from your website (pretty cool)

Hope to hear from you, from another programmer point of view ....

Lito

Welcome back Patchou! Don't really know you but thought I'd like to drop you a message anyway, I'm nice

Welcome back!!

yey welcome back Patchou glad to see your back, good to know you and dwergs didn't get kidnapped but you sure they didn't pressure you into putting the msn toolbar into the sponser program

yey i'm ergerly awaiting the new beta and cant wait for the final and the final of msn mess 7. keep up the good work!

glad to see you so highly motivated
welcome back!

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Originally posted by xolotzitl
Que  bien  que regresaste, pensabamos  que  te habian raptado los de microsoft  

esperaremos  con ansias esas fotos

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Heu,

you said you didn't let the "remove ad bar" option in the new plus! version for obvious reasons... could you explain...  Because Microsoft has put that option by themselves so all my friends and I have a white rectangle at the bottom of our msn window: as everybody's using anti-ad softwares, the only purpose of such a bar is to waste usefull space on the screens...

btw, if someone knows a good site where you can find a plugin that allows to remove the ad-banner, please send it to me: steven.dyle(at)gmail.com
Thanks a lot

read 'MSN advertisement banner' removal and go to mess.be and search there the crack to remove the adbanner.

why i can't download the msg plus for msg beta 7. izzit already removed??

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why i can't download the msg plus for msg beta 7. izzit already removed??

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Hey littleway welcome to the forums

yes i just checked and there seems to be some problem with the msgplus.net website it is currently down for some reason

but  it surely will be back on prettly soon so please try after sometime


Edit : its back up , you can get it from MsgPlus! for Messenger 7 - 3.40.112 BETA

P.s. should'nt this be split ?

10x.. i am downloading it now...

I just downloaded it ...I like the plus for 6.2 .jus trying to get some of my mate in the UK to download and try it out..they all liked plus for 6.2...........keep up the good work