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RE: This sucks... :'-( by CookieRevised on 11-08-2004 at 05:54 PM
quote:depends on your ISP and ADSL-plan though...
Originally posted by Kryptonate
they're talking about a quota for bandwidth. This is the same for Belgium. For ADSL and cable we get around 10gb per month. If we exceed this you have to pay 5 euros for 5 extra gb (don't know for Telenet).
3 different ISP's, first two ADSL, third Cable:
![[Image: compare_go_top_NL.gif]](http://reg.tiscali.be/adsl/images/pop/compare_go_top_NL.gif)
Also note that for "ADSL Go" from tiscali you pay per MB extra, not per (5) GB, which makes a huge difference!
Not to mention, I have "ADSL Go" (still the best on price/quality on the Belgium market, and they always want to be the cheapest so whenever some other ISP upgrades their system or lowers the price, Tiscali follows)
RE: This sucks... :'-( by Kryptonate on 11-08-2004 at 06:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
depends on your ISP and ADSL-plan though... eg: I pay monthly €39,95: I have 15GB/month, 3,3Mbps speed and only pay €0,9 per extra GB exceeding this. Long live Tiscali ("ADSL Go", the name of this plan, is still the cheapest formula for Belgium)
(in Belgium/Netherlands, compared to rest of world, ADSL is very cheap)
- €33,5/month
- 10gb/month
- 3,3 Mbps speed (will soon be 4 Mbps for ADSL Belgacom
)
- €1/gb extra
RE: This sucks... :'-( by Millenium_edition on 11-08-2004 at 06:09 PM
quote:errr your image compares to the worst pack of telenet... and the best one isn't that expensive anymore, and has far better stuff.
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Not to mention, I have "ADSL Go" (still the best on price/quality on the Belgium market)
oh and, btw, the bandwidth limit is 12.5 gb.
quote:1 euro, for god sake. ¬_¬
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Also note that for "ADSL Go" from tiscali you pay per MB extra, not per (5) GB, which makes a huge difference!
RE: This sucks... :'-( by Kryptonate on 11-08-2004 at 06:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
errr your image compares to the worst pack of telenet... and the best one isn't that expensive anymore, and has far better stuff.
oh and, btw, the bandwidth limit is 12.5 gb.
he was talking about ADSL
.* Kryptonate slaps Millenium_edition around a bit with a large trout.
Telenet is better, true, but I can't take it. I live in an appartement and the cable is too old. If we want Telenet the entire appartement has to go to Telenet :/.
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Also note that for "ADSL Go" from tiscali you pay per MB extra, not per (5) GB, which makes a huge difference!
the €5/5gb is for when we buy an extra volumepack, it's not something we get automatically.
RE: This sucks... :'-( by CookieRevised on 11-08-2004 at 06:18 PM
quote:hence I put the 5 between parenthesis. You'll pay €1 extra if you exceed your volume with 1GB, correct? Thus even if you exceed with 10MB you still have to pay for the full GB, which can make a huge difference if you're a lot on the net (see below).
Originally posted by Kryptonate
the €5/5gb is for when we buy an extra volumepack, it's not something we get automatically.
quote:The image compares packets with the same services/contents. Of course each ISP has his own lower/higher graded packages, but they will of course cost less/more. You can't go comparing a €10 ADSL packet from ISP A with a €50 Cable packet from ISP B and say that ISP A sucks... (and then to forget to mention that Cable also means a, one-time though, extra installation cost of around €100)
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
errr your image compares to the worst pack of telenet... and the best one isn't that expensive anymore, and has far better stuff.
quote:yeah, but it can make a huge difference though:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
1 euro, for god sake. ¬_¬
Say you exceed with 300 MB, for the others that makes 1€ extra (and you've wasted 700MB), with Tiscali this would only be an extra of €0,27.... The difference is even bigger if you take in account that Tiscali gives you 15GB/month instead of 10GB/month.
eg: say you have 16,3 GB per month, for the others this makes: +€7, for Tiscali +€1,17 (while the monthly price of Tiscali is also cheaper).
RE: This sucks... :'-( by Kryptonate on 11-08-2004 at 06:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
hence I put the 5 between parenthesis. You'll pay €1 extra if you exceed your volume with 1GB, correct? Thus even if you exceed with 10MB you still have to pay for the full GB.
no we don't. If we exceed our volume we're just put on smallband, that's all. If we want normal bandwidthspeed for the rest of the month we can buy a volumepack for €5 so we get 5gb extra.
RE: This sucks... :'-( by CookieRevised on 11-08-2004 at 06:38 PM
quote:oh ic... But if you would know you're gonna exceed (so you can buy your extra datavolume packet) the comparisson of me (+€7 vs. +€1.17) in my previous post is valid, no?
Originally posted by Kryptonate
no we don't. If we exceed our volume we're just put on smallband, that's all. If we want normal bandwidthspeed for the rest of the month we can buy a volumepack for €5 so we get 5gb extra.
EDIT: now that I think about it, if you need to pay in front for extra datavolume, you'll loose money when you don't use it. hmmmm. This only make me want to stay with Tiscali even more.
PS: the price for Belgacom's "ADSL Go" is still listed as €39,95:
http://www.belgacom.be/private/nl/jsp/dynamic/pro...hbs_adsl_res_price
M_E, well anyways, don't be fooled though, cable is still much more expensive though and you don't get much extra. Compare the things you get with "ExpressNet Plus" with the ADSL packets from Tiscali and Belgacom (but make a fair comparisson! This includes extra activation costs, special modem, download/upload limits, etc...)
http://www.telenet.be/nl/producten/internet/tarieven/index.php
http://www.telenet.be/nl/producten/internet/telen...detail_tabel.php#7
also:
http://www.belgacom.be/private/hbsres/jsp/static/...omp_tntcomfort.jsp
RE: This sucks... :'-( by Kryptonate on 11-08-2004 at 06:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
EDIT: now that I think about it, if you need to pay in front for extra datavolume, you'll loose money when you don't use it. hmmmm. This only make me want to stay with Tiscali even more.
you can buy one whenever you feel like it. You can do it when you're on smallband already and there's like 10 days still to go before the next month or so and you know you're gonna download some things when it comes in handy.
quote:no, it doesn't. I pay €5 if I want to be on normal speed when I exceeded the 10gb limit. If I download 10,1gb in a month and I don't buy a volumepack I don't have to pay more.
Originally posted by CookieRevised
oh ic... But if you would know you're gonna exceed (so you can buy your extra datavolume packet) the comparisson of me (+€7 vs. +€1.17) in my previous post is valid, no?
RE: This sucks... :'-( by CookieRevised on 11-08-2004 at 07:00 PM
No, but you wont be able to download at full speed anymore (only at 64 Kbps). So taken in account the speed you get (full ADSL speed), the comparisson is valid. Oherwise you'll be forced to bring in the prices of much lighter packets or even the normal (free) modem connection of Tiscali, which makes it still cheaper.