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does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by Pinchichuv on 11-12-2004 at 08:33 PM
I wanna unlock a cell phone that i have but i dont know how
RE: does somebody knows how to unblock a cellphone? by matty on 11-12-2004 at 08:36 PM
Do you mean unlock a cell phone and its features? If so thats illegal and we wont help with it.
If you mean unblock from a network or call someone when your number is blocked - both are impossible
RE: does somebody knows how to unblock a cellphone? by saralk on 11-12-2004 at 09:45 PM
You can unlock it from a network, wot model phone have you got?
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by Choli on 11-13-2004 at 01:31 AM
quote:yes, that is possible and, IMHO, it isn't illegal. In fact, there are web sites where you can get the unlock code by free (i unlocked mine using one of those sites). Also the companies (at least in spain) must unlock it if you want (and because they're
Originally posted by Matty
If you mean unblock from a network
you have to pay them 
)RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by Underlord on 11-13-2004 at 04:14 AM
I unlocked my phone a few days ago .
Try these sites 
.
http://www.unlockme.co.uk/unlockme.html
http://unlock.nokiafree.org/
Companies here will only unlock it if you pay the full price of the phone and i think unlocking it voids the warranty, but i doubt it is illegal.
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by Maniac on 11-13-2004 at 10:01 PM
IMO it IS illegal if the company doesn't do it itself (hence if you don't pay them for it)
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by Underlord on 11-14-2004 at 02:08 AM
I don't see how it can be illegal if it is your phone.
It's like modding a ps2 or xbox. It isn't illegal but it voids the warranty.
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by Maniac on 11-14-2004 at 02:18 AM
well when you mod your xbox u get banned from teh xbox live.... and microsoft cant really ban u if it isnt legal.... 
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by Underlord on 11-14-2004 at 04:47 AM
They can ban you. Modding it isn't illegal but playing pirated games is 
. Also they probably reserve the right to ban anyone.
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by Choli on 11-14-2004 at 04:07 PM
quote:in fact it is your phone but the point is that you don't phisically modify it, you just change the configuration, and that's why i think it's legal and the warranty should still apply.
Originally posted by Underlord
I don't see how it can be illegal if it is your phone.
It's like modding a ps2 or xbox. It isn't illegal but it voids the warranty.
modding a ps2 / xbox requires you change the hardware, so you have to open the box and that's why it losses the warranty.
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by Plik on 11-14-2004 at 04:32 PM
quote:They ban modded xboxs from xbox live because mods can be used to cheat
Originally posted by Ningc_Maniac
well when you mod your xbox u get banned from teh xbox live.... and microsoft cant really ban u if it isnt legal....
So its their way of keeping things fair
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by reisyboy on 11-14-2004 at 04:41 PM
err if u want i know how its easy on the newer Nokia's its not ilegal... if u call Orange up for example you can pay to have yours unblocked so you can put others sims in... if you read the o2 simcard packs it tells you about calling your network up etc
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by EvilSeph on 11-14-2004 at 07:06 PM
It is illegal. Modding Xboxes and PlayStation 2's, as well as unlocking phones. Completely illegal. It's like stealing satelite. It's still stealing, it's still illegal.
Modding gaming systems - You are making the system do things it would not normally do. It voids warranty and is illegal. Well, in the UK for sure - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/21/ps2_mod_chip_win/
Unlocking phones - Most, if not ALL, wireless companies offer services to unlock your phone FOR A PRICE. By doing it yourself, you are avoiding services costs which is stealing and therefore is illegal. However..as brought to my attention in the article linked below, it depends on what you mean by "unlocking". There are different types, unlocking features, unlocking phones that have been locked by the service due to inappropriate activity or something or unlocking the phone to be able to change service providers.
Interesting read: http://cellphones.about.com/library/bl_cf_unlock.htm
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by Choli on 11-14-2004 at 07:38 PM
quote:why? because if you can easyly (ie: for free) unlock a phone you can easly change your wireless company and that's a thing companies don't want. So being it for a price isn't a reason to say if it's or isn't legal.
Originally posted by EvilSeph
Most, if not ALL, wireless companies offer services to unlock your phone FOR A PRICE.
quote:for me, unlocking means that your change (the configuration of) your phone in order it accepts sim cards of other companies; not only the one who sold you the phone.
Originally posted by EvilSeph
it depends on what you mean by "unlocking".
And as long as the phone is yours ('cause you bought it) and you only change the configuration of the phone (ie: you don't open the phone and modify its components) then unlocking is legal and it should not void the warranty
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by EvilSeph on 11-14-2004 at 11:55 PM
No no no, there are different types of "unlocking". Please re-read my post. If you can easily do it for free, but your services provider is charging you, it's theft. However, the true legality of it is still being debated..
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by CookieRevised on 11-15-2004 at 12:23 AM
concearning the type of unlocking were you can put another sim card in your phone from another company (simcard lock), that is illegal.
You bought your phone with some company. Often companies charge less money for phones which are simlocked to their own company. This is their part of the "promotion"; you pay less for the same phone, but you also restrict yourself to use that company as operator. By buying the phone you agree (read: sign) a contract with that company. Breaking the lock means breaking the contract (and stealing money in a sense, like ES said) which is illegal.
Now, on the other hand you can ask your company to unlock your phone for this, they can't refuse it but they can and will ask for money. And this is very logic also, because this is for the (minor) service costs, but mostly for the money they "lost" when you bought your locked phone with that company (aka: compensation).
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by reisyboy on 11-15-2004 at 06:01 PM
Yeh so unlocking them is 100% legal IF you do it though your provider doing it yourself thats kidan of ilegal/grey. However if you have ever locked at a market i dont think they are worried to much lol otherwise they would stop this i mean i can walk around well a shopping centre and there are people doing in SHOPS not stools so its rather should we say a grey area lol
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by saralk on 11-15-2004 at 09:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
concearning the type of unlocking were you can put another sim card in your phone from another company (simcard lock), that is illegal.
You bought your phone with some company. Often companies charge less money for phones which are simlocked to their own company. This is their part of the "promotion"; you pay less for the same phone, but you also restrict yourself to use that company as operator. By buying the phone you agree (read: sign) a contract with that company. Breaking the lock means breaking the contract (and stealing money in a sense, like ES said) which is illegal.
Now, on the other hand you can ask your company to unlock your phone for this, they can't refuse it but they can and will ask for money. And this is very logic also, because this is for the (minor) service costs, but mostly for the money they "lost" when you bought your locked phone with that company (aka: compensation).
If you buy your phone on Pay as you go* then you are signing no contract.
* Pay as You Go is a scheme in some countries where you dont pay a fixed monthly fee, but "top-up" the balance on your phone, when you want to, the cost of subsequent calls are deducted from your balance
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by user27089 on 11-15-2004 at 09:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by saralk
If you buy your phone on Pay as you go* then you are signing no contract.
Thats what I thought aswell, when a phone company sells you their phone, you're purchasing that phone for your use, that phone is no longer theirs, afaik, Unlocking is not illegal on pay as you go for the same reason you said. No contracts have been signed, so nothing can be done to stop it,
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by CookieRevised on 11-16-2004 at 11:36 AM
quote:That has nothing to do with it. We are not talking about the payment plan for the service. We're talking about buying the phone itself.
Originally posted by saralk
If you buy your phone on Pay as you go* then you are signing no contract.
* Pay as You Go is a scheme in some countries where you dont pay a fixed monthly fee, but "top-up" the balance on your phone, when you want to, the cost of subsequent calls are deducted from your balance
quote:No, it isn't their phone anymore, but you still "signed" a contract by buying the phone of that company.
Originally posted by traxor
Thats what I thought aswell, when a phone company sells you their phone, you're purchasing that phone for your use, that phone is no longer theirs, afaik,
quote:Wrong. You and saralk are confussing the actual phone service with the selling of the phone. Both are different things (but often done together).
Originally posted by traxor
Unlocking is not illegal on pay as you go for the same reason you said. No contracts have been signed
1) you need to buy a phone
This can be done everywhere. But most phones offered are linked to some service company; they include a sim card (pay 'n go) from a certain service provider.
By buying the phone which includes a sim card from a certain service provider, you actual "sign" a contract with that service provider.
It can be that these phones are relativly cheaper then if you would've bought them without an included sim card from a certain service provider. If this is the case, then those phones are simlocked to that service company. You can't put a simcard from another service company in to the phone. Unlocking that is illegal because of the things I've said in my previous post.
2) you need to puchase a phone service plan if it is not included (Pay 'n Go, Prepaid, Factuartion, whatever, ...). If it is not included, your phone is not simlocked to any service company.
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by uberdosis on 11-18-2004 at 04:40 AM
Does anyone know of a way i can do this in Australia in a nokia and currently with the virgin network
RE: does somebody knows how to unlock a cellphone? by Underlord on 11-18-2004 at 07:18 AM
I believe that modding the xbox itself is not illegal, atleast in Australia, but using it to play pirated games is . Playing imported games is fine.
DVD players used to only play DVDs of a certain zone but now, atleast in Australia, they must be multizone compatible after they lost a case to the ACCC (Australian Competition & Consumer Commission).