Overflow spam owner's websites easily - Printable Version -Shoutbox (https://shoutbox.menthix.net) +-- Forum: MsgHelp Archive (/forumdisplay.php?fid=58) +--- Forum: Skype & Technology (/forumdisplay.php?fid=9) +---- Forum: Tech Talk (/forumdisplay.php?fid=17) +----- Thread: Overflow spam owner's websites easily (/showthread.php?tid=35086) Overflow spam owner's websites easily by KeyStorm on 12-01-2004 at 02:41 PM
I encourage all Europeans to join this action. quote: Know more: http://makelovenotspam.com/intl RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by KnightieBoy on 12-01-2004 at 02:50 PM
yeah.. I downloaded it yesterday.. I love it I would have never expected this from Lycos.. It's about time those spammers get to experience the feeling we feel: irritated RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by andrey on 12-01-2004 at 03:05 PM
wow! that's a great idea from these Lycos people...i'll download this for sure.. RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by WDZ on 12-01-2004 at 03:21 PM
It's only for Europe? I wonder why... quote:Maybe the spammers are fighting back with their own DOS attacks... RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by andrey on 12-01-2004 at 03:37 PM
quote:lol RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by KeyStorm on 12-01-2004 at 03:41 PM
quote:Lol, I noticed that, too You can get it from p2p, hopefully. RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by saralk on 12-01-2004 at 05:13 PM you can get it from http://download2.makelovenotspam.com/screensavers...screensaver_en.exe, however it wont work yet cos the servers are still down RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by andrey on 12-01-2004 at 09:10 PM
thanks saral RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by _Humphreys on 12-01-2004 at 09:15 PM I might try this to get revenge on the spammers............ will Omar be effected? RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by Chrono on 12-01-2004 at 09:18 PM
well its kinda lame, but i like it RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by _Humphreys on 12-01-2004 at 09:22 PM lol I could 'annoy a spammer' all night. Right time to get back at those pesky porn newsletters and ads. RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by Concord Dawn on 12-01-2004 at 10:04 PM
quote: No, Omar will not be affected. He's a person, not a website. I can't get the site to work!!! Can someone please either attach it or link to it? Edit: Download link worked.....somehow..... RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by Striker on 12-01-2004 at 10:08 PM
this actualy seems really retarded. your fighting spam by ddos'ing their web site. ddos'ing it what kills the net in the first place. and just think of what would happen if the program ever got hacked., the hacker doesn't even need to upload a virus, the hacker will hvae the program installed on millions of comps. RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by Anubis on 12-02-2004 at 04:22 PM I installed it, but every time I try to use it I get this error message, I added it to my accepted programs list in my (McAfee) firewall and then tried it with it down, it didn't work...Boo! I want to annoy Mr. ...I attached a screenshot. But my main guess is that my ISP doesn't reach them, for some reason... RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by fluffy_lobster on 12-03-2004 at 05:30 PM
It looks like makelovenotspam.com is back up but they've suspended the service. Both the screensaver and the website load, but simply say "stay tuned". I hope it's temporary RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by megamuff on 12-03-2004 at 06:13 PM I like this idea. Recently I have been receiving spam in my spam folder... Quite irritating people want me to buy their warez and drugs... RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by WDZ on 12-06-2004 at 01:59 PM http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996752 RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by andrey on 12-06-2004 at 03:12 PM http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996752 (originally posted by WDZ.) quote:Damn ! quote:Unethical ?? What's unethical, spamming innocent people to death with fucking penis enlargement mails, or pinging the companie's websites to death ? Calling this unethical is totally stupid. The definition of unethical is: "not conforming to approved standards of social or professional behavior" If these spam-companies are considered as "ethically correct", then, good night, let the spam rule the world. As distributing spam is not ethically correct, fighting the people who distribute spam can't be accused of beeing unethical from my point of view. quote:Exactly. That's the point, it isn't designed as a DDoS attack, it just slows the sites down, increases the spammers bills and doesn't hurt anyone exept the spammer (and Lycos' servers). quote:Is spamming ethical ?? Doesn't spamming contravene with "accepted protocols" ? How can people see fucking ethics everywhere, they're just websites owned by companys that distribute huge amounts of spam all around the web and increase the amount of traffic. quote:Who cares ?? quote:Of course Anti-spam companies are against fighting spam, they would without spam and probably even support spammers. And, it's not meant as DDos Attack ! A DDoS attack is harmless in comparison to the fact that spamming companies use even more illegal ways to distribute their spam, e.g via worms. And, if we shouldn't fight abuse (spam) with abuse, what alternatives do we have ? None. quote:Of course some webcompanies will be affected but whoever cooperates with Spammers is a half illegal subject himself. The problem is that antispam companies or providers will never act against spammers because they are a huge source of income. quote:Why not try poking the grizzly to death ? Again sometimes attack is the best defence; if we just leave them, they will grow even bigger and more economical damage will be done by gigantic amounts of spam sent across the internet. And again, it is not meant to be a DDoS attack. Anti-virus / Anti-spam companies will of course never have the slightest desire to "kill" spammers, they would kill themselves. If they don't act, we have to. I don't see anything unethical in attacking spammers. period. this post was way too excessive RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by CookieRevised on 12-06-2004 at 03:29 PM
quote:By calling one method (used by lycos) unethical they don't say the other method (used by spammers) is ethical. In fact _both_ methods can be considered unethical... quote:It has the same effect. No matter how it is "designed". Read the article further: they stated also that many other sites have been down due to this lycos attack. also they state that other companies who don't have anything todo with the spam-sites can be effected too if they happen to be on the same server. quote:Again, by saying that what lycos is doing is unethical, they do _not_ say that what spammers are doing is ethical... quote: quote: quote:Several companies who have _nothing_ in common can still be on the same server; Being on the same server has _nothing_ to do with being affiliates. It could be that they are affiliated, but also in many cases they are not. quote:The result is the same. <sarcastic> Let's send a B52 and drop some cluster bombs on the server-complex. Hu? Illegal? Unethical? Why? It isn't a DDoS attack, isn't it? </sarcastic> RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by andrey on 12-06-2004 at 04:06 PM
quote:Yes, I wanted to say that sometimes our current view of ethics and such things has to be revised. Some things must be done in order to end another thing that is just as bad/even badder. See Iraq: US intervention was considered unethical but was still needed to end Saddam Husseins regime because he killed many thousands Iraqis. We can't just sit there and do nothing because it could be unethical; because this spamming is unethical too and has to get to an end, no matter how. quote:meant to be "Of course Anti-spam companies are against fighting spammers, they would die without spam; thus probably even support spammers." quote:lol thats a bit too drastic...a DDoS attack doen't destroy the server, it disconnects it from the internet by overflowing it. ..But, bombing spammy servers would be a good idea actually ... As I said, as we have almost no other way to fight the spammers, we must do something against them even if some innocent people are hit. The Lycos attempt to help solve the problem was a step in the right direction which should be continued. RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by CookieRevised on 12-06-2004 at 04:22 PM
quote:I understand what you're saying, but still. Some (well, more like many) still found the US intervention unethical, since maybe it could be solved by not going into war. But we never will know that for sure of course. quote:Make it a EM Bomb then or something... My point is the outcome will be the same, designed as DDoS attack or not. quote:There are ways to fight it without hurting innocent people... quote:More like a step backwards if you ask me.... Th way to fight spam is to report it to the autorities. Many spammers have already been punished by law. This method works (but is not widely know)... If more and more authorities make laws agains spamming, more and more the spam will reduce... RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by andrey on 12-06-2004 at 05:45 PM
quote:well, Lycos intended to control the pinging of websites which seems to have failed, but if they would have managed to stop pinging at 5% - 10% of left bandwith, it couldn't be classified as DDoS attack, because the websites would still be online. DDoS attacks are attacks where the designated goal is to overload the server and to take the website down. quote:Yes, this would definitely be a better way but at the moment it's unrealistic because most servers are located somewhere in Asia or anywhere scattered around the world. It would be extremely hard, and it would take a long time, to get the governments to make laws against spamming and actually take actions against them. And maybe some governments have interests in keeping the spamming business up. I know that the Lycos' way isn't the best, but the only that would work in in the foreseeable future. And another problem is that every anti-spam company would be against laws, resolutions against spam and will try to block them. So making laws against spam could be hard and will take a long time. And even when laws against spamming are introduced, many companies will stay underground and continue their work. The Lycos attack would work much faster, but I see that it would hit some innocent people too. Should we just sit here and wait till some government in Asia makes a law against spamming ? As we can't influence the law-making process in Asia, we could at least try to make spamming harder by using these "unethical" ways like Lycos introduced. RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by CookieRevised on 12-06-2004 at 06:21 PM
quote:/sright quote:Or by not responding to those spammails (even not "unsubscribing" <=big hint) and not giving out your email..... ^^ revenue generated by spam will drop ^^ spamming will become unprofitable ^^ hey, what'd you know, same result as what lycos wanted to achieve without using dodgy methods... EDIT: no problem RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by andrey on 12-06-2004 at 07:00 PM
well then, the conclusion would be RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by kangie on 12-09-2004 at 01:22 AM
i once got so pissed off at a person who randomly spammed me with one of those "i knew a relative of yours, i have millions of dollars, for a fee of $500 i will transfer it to your bank account, all i need is your name, address, creditcard no., billing address for the CC, expiry date and security no. for that CC" RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by CookieRevised on 12-09-2004 at 08:39 AM
quote:almost all spams like that are coming from people/companies who sign up for multiple mails to send the spam from. They don't check that mailaddress, not do they care how much they recieve. They just let it die out and sign up for another emailadress the next time. What it will do (reacting with signing the spamaddress up to other newsletters) is creating more bandwidth use on the net and slowing the net down even more... eg: some years ago, when you send a mail, it was recieved on the other side of the world almost instantly. Now-a-days it can take up a whole day. And this isn't because of more people using the net (of course it has something to do with it, but that is only a very very small percentage) but because of 90% of the mail that is send in the world consists of spam/counter-spam/virusses/etc. There are many studies done and all come to this same conclussion... RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by kangie on 12-09-2004 at 01:18 PM but cookie, they needed to read the reply id sent with my details in.... so they wouldnt just not read it RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by WDZ on 12-10-2004 at 05:35 PM Another news article related to this topic: "Trojan horse" computer spy masquerades as anti-spam screensaver RE: RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by megamuff on 12-12-2004 at 05:17 PM
quote: unsubscribe links do not work. i have spent a week once unsubscribing from every spam email i received, and now i receive even more then ever. in fact, i receive about 2-5 every day, compared to 1 a day when they started coming in. and although they go to my spam folder, the fact that they keep sending the emails at all is extremely insulting. they are targeting a 16 year old male in the hopes that i will buy their sex drugs.. i am in the mood to make a macro program to continue what the wonderful screensaver started. RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by jren207 on 12-12-2004 at 11:27 PM
quote: I did that, although I didn't really get that many afterwards, a few though. What happens is they send you an email because they find your address somewhere (maybe, spider web pages for address etc.). This is a test. Then when you go to the unsubscribe page, and enter your email, they know that the account is active, then they keep spamming it. RE: RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by megamuff on 12-12-2004 at 11:38 PM
quote: i let about 15 come in before i started unsubscribing, which then made them come in faster. RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by uberdosis on 12-19-2004 at 05:48 AM
quote: RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by kangie on 12-19-2004 at 06:07 PM i wouldnt anyway.... i get 1-2 bits of spam every couple of weeks to my most used hotmail account, and ive signed up fo alot on it RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by andrey on 01-25-2005 at 11:49 AM
Project Honey Pot RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by user13774 on 01-25-2005 at 12:55 PM I just read some of the FAQ and it sounds very good! This actually helps to get spammers sued ^_^ RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by fluffy_lobster on 01-25-2005 at 07:51 PM RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by jren207 on 01-29-2005 at 05:14 PM sounds like a good idea, i'll try that RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by paperless on 01-29-2005 at 05:21 PM Errm.. i went to the site and it has een stopped.. no more sceensvaer RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by andrey on 01-29-2005 at 05:26 PM
quote: Errm.. we're not talking about makelovenotspam.. read the last few posts RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by megamuff on 01-29-2005 at 07:46 PM cool link i'll go check it out RE: Overflow spam owner's websites easily by Ezra on 01-29-2005 at 07:50 PM I joined, but no harvesters found yet... Oh well... just wait |