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Update Our Little Forum :D by Stigmata on 12-08-2004 at 09:53 PM

isnt it time to update (like the main site)

from
[Image: topleft.png][Image: mainnav.png]

to

[Image: attachment.php?pid=345184]

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by KeyStorm on 12-08-2004 at 09:56 PM

I would never export that to jpg, but it looks very good (Y)

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by jren207 on 12-08-2004 at 10:48 PM

Yeh, we are all making out xmas avatars and sigs, it's time for the forum to look xmassy :D

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by user27089 on 12-08-2004 at 11:24 PM

Agreed, if msgplus.net is christsmassy, I'm sure that dz or somebody could sort this out so that it matches msgplus.net as it always actually has?

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by Hank on 12-09-2004 at 01:27 AM

an if it was to be done. you could always have somewhat Make it kinda look like Snow drops were falling without going overboard

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by WDZ on 12-09-2004 at 05:30 AM

Uhh... good enough? (a)

[Image: topleft_xmas.png]

That was actually quite difficult to make... wasted like 45 minutes on it, and it's still not perfect... :dodgy:

I didn't continue the snow all the way across because there are actually 3 images that make up the whole thing... the middle one repeats to fill the empty space, and I didn't want snow in it.

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by .blade// on 12-09-2004 at 05:36 AM

What about us using MsgPlus! 2? :-/

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by WDZ on 12-09-2004 at 05:39 AM

quote:
Originally posted by blade
What about use using MsgPlus! 2? :-/
Well, you're in luck: the XMas logo from last year is still on the server...

[Image: mp2xmaslogo.jpg]

:tongue:
RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by .blade// on 12-09-2004 at 05:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by WDZ
quote:
Originally posted by blade
What about use using MsgPlus! 2? :-/
Well, you're in luck: the XMas logo from last year is still on the server...

[Image: mp2xmaslogo.jpg]

:tongue:
:P
*cough* lazy-ass *cough*
;) :p
RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by wj on 12-09-2004 at 06:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by WDZ
Uhh... good enough? (a)


NO. PNG or JPG.
RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by WDZ on 12-09-2004 at 06:29 AM

quote:
Originally posted by wj
NO. PNG or JPG.
What? It is a PNG, just like the original image. :p
RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by wj on 12-09-2004 at 07:12 AM

Bah, Damn IE. It looks like it needs to be a 24bit PNG instead of an 8bit.

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by WDZ on 12-09-2004 at 07:22 AM

24bit would make the file size significantly larger.

I just tried it in IE, and it works, but the color is a bit different and it doesn't match up as well as it does in Opera, which is strange... :s

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by theguy on 12-09-2004 at 11:25 AM

In IE it looks extremely ugly, but it looks fine in firefox.

my 2 cents: screw IE

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by Eljay on 12-09-2004 at 11:35 AM

* Eljay views it in IE

URRRRRRRGH!!!!!!

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by Xero_Cool on 12-09-2004 at 12:01 PM

Umm...http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=34976

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by user13774 on 12-09-2004 at 02:33 PM

[Image: attachment.php?pid=345396]

:dodgy:

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by Stigmata on 12-09-2004 at 06:41 PM

in firefox you can see a line going straight thought the background image :(

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by CookieRevised on 12-09-2004 at 07:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by WDZ
I just tried it in IE, and it works, but the color is a bit different and it doesn't match up as well as it does in Opera, which is strange...
good old gamma-correction problems in MSIE and its PNG "(not-)support" :D

quote:
Originally posted by WDZ
24bit would make the file size significantly larger.
if it is 8bit, make it into a gif then. It will fix the gamma-problems. (although filesize is slithly larger though) ;)

btw, do you still have the 24bit png of it? Because the one you've made has its colors reducing by using dithering, while the other images in the bar (and the original logo) don't...

[Image: attachment.php?pid=345496]
same image, without gamma problems in MSIE...
RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by KeyStorm on 12-09-2004 at 10:04 PM

GIF is dead... Why won't MS support it for once. You know how many nice things you can do with PNG24's alpha channel :drool:... just if the most used browser supported it... :dodgy: (well, slowly it's getting less used :rolleyes:).

Anyway, the header looks good this way WDZ. (Y)

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by WDZ on 12-10-2004 at 03:58 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
btw, do you still have the 24bit png of it?
Yeah, will you CookieRevise it? :p

Edit: I tried taking the original full-quality image and saving it in gif format with the same amount of dithering, and the IE problem seems to be fixed. That's cool, but I don't understand it. :-/

quote:
Because the one you've made has its colors reducing by using dithering
I tried not using dithering, but it looked really bad. :^) The colors weren't smoothly blended... they're "blocky." Does dithering cause that problem in IE?

Example: [Image: attachment.php?pid=345599] (n) (n)
RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by sock on 12-10-2004 at 02:48 PM

Have you tried using a different color selection method (median cut or octree)? Those usually produce nice results with no dithering...

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by Stigmata on 12-10-2004 at 04:47 PM

use a solid colour :D

magic wand, fill :D

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by WDZ on 12-10-2004 at 05:08 PM

quote:
Originally posted by sock
Have you tried using a different color selection method (median cut or octree)? Those usually produce nice results with no dithering...
I tried all the methods, and they didn't look nice without dithering. I guess this is just a strange image. :p

quote:
Originally posted by Stigmata
use a solid colour :D

magic wand, fill :D
:-/
RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by Plik on 12-10-2004 at 05:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by WDZ
I guess this is just a strange image.
Its not. I had exactly the same problem with something i am doing.
My answer was to make a different image for IE and then use php to show the ie image when the user was using IE.
Other wise use the normal image.
RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by CookieRevised on 12-10-2004 at 06:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by WDZ
I tried not using dithering, but it looked really bad. The colors weren't smoothly blended... they're "blocky." Does dithering cause that problem in IE?
The original PNG (without the xmas theme) was also only 8bit, without dithering. Also, choosing the pallette reduction (median cut/octree/etc) is one thing, you can also alter the level of dithering and if needed assign important colors, etc... (all this in PSP, not in PS as that *beeps* fur such palette editing things)

quote:
Originally posted by sock
Have you tried using a different color selection method (median cut or octree)? Those usually produce nice results with no dithering...
normally yes, but we need to take WDZ's word for it I guess :P... (unless he wants to attach the 24bit PNG :D)

anyways, looks ok now
RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by WDZ on 12-10-2004 at 06:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
The original PNG (without the xmas theme) was also only 8bit, without dithering.
:dodgy: :dodgy:

quote:
you can also alter the level of dithering
I messed with it until it looked good, and ended up with 70%.

quote:
assign important colors
:huh: :p

quote:
(unless he wants to attach the 24bit PNG :d)
Here you go... :p

[Image: attachment.php?pid=345709]
RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by tony on 12-10-2004 at 07:24 PM

is there a blue line down the snow? IE..

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by user27089 on 12-10-2004 at 07:29 PM

:dodgy: image editing :cry: Someone please do it, is it done ? its done!!! tankyou.

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by WDZ on 12-10-2004 at 07:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by shrbr
is there a blue line down the snow? IE..
There might be a dark blue line under the snow, but that's just the background image, and looks fine, IMO.
RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by Pr0xY on 12-11-2004 at 12:01 AM

Looks nice, now that the forum has all this christmas spirit, I dont have to edit my stuff to help out. :P

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by CookieRevised on 12-11-2004 at 10:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by WDZ
Here you go... :p
[Image: attachment.php?pid=345709]
:D

good news, problem solved....


Like I suspected it was MSIE which doesn't show the gamma-level correctly from the PNG. If there is a gamma-level-chunck, it will be always displayed to dark. If there is no gamma-level-chunck set in the PNG then there is no problem...

Also, I've recreated the image so it isn't dithered. In fact the image is identical (except for the added snow and hat of course). Try to do an arithmetic comparisson ;)

Numbers of colors is 256 (thus no indexes wasted). This is more then the normal logo (150 colors), because of the snow and hat of course.

Normal default logo (8bit):
[Image: topleft.png]

Fixed XMas logo (8bit) :D:
[Image: attachment.php?pid=345905]

Original XMas logo (24bit):
[Image: attachment.php?pid=345709]
RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by Guido on 12-12-2004 at 06:44 PM

Thanks WDZ and everyone else for taking care of it! :bananaxmas:

RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by WDZ on 12-13-2004 at 06:10 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Like I suspected it was MSIE which doesn't show the gamma-level correctly from the PNG. If there is a gamma-level-chunck, it will be always displayed to dark. If there is no gamma-level-chunck set in the PNG then there is no problem...
I've never heard of "gamma level" and I didn't see any options to remove it... :dodgy:

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
I've recreated the image
Am I expected to use that now? :p After making the current gif and placing it online, I thought "good, I'm finally done with that damn logo." :p

quote:
Originally posted by Guido
Thanks WDZ and everyone else for taking care of it!
You approve of us copying your graphics off of msgplus.net and messing with them without permission? :refuck: (a)
RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by Guido on 12-13-2004 at 06:42 AM

quote:
Originally posted by WDZ
You approve of us copying your graphics off of msgplus.net and messing with them without permission?
Since I was the one who had to copy my own graphics off msgplus.net and mess with them anyway, yeah, I approve you :gfdrin:.
RE: Update Our Little Forum :D by surfichris on 12-13-2004 at 08:34 AM

Can I be like Mess.be for a minute?

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