Hi

I have been using http://www.trillian.cc for a while but want to use msn again (Trillian can't keep up with the speed microsoft adds new features).

However, in Trillian I really like the container option that is not available in messenger and plus. With messenger you have a button and a window per chat session. This container option groups / displays all chat sessions inside the container window, so you have only one button on the windows toolbar to minimize/maximize. (Attached screenshot is from the container window with 2 chat sessions + the contact list inside it).

Does anyone know if such a plugin is available for messenger and where I can get it?

Update Jan 3, 2005: there have been multiple conversations and threaths about this request. Where Trillian refers to a container, all msn users refer to a tabbed message window for a similar feature. Both features group all conversation windows in a single larger window, with or without tabs. I updated the screen shot from Trillian. It shows the container in two ways. The top most one is the container with tabs enabled, the lower one the same but with tabs disabled. With tabs enabled, when a session is out of focus because you are talking in another session, there is a sound and the tab header of sessions with new unread messages turns red. To see for your self, download and install Trillian from http://www.trillian.cc/

Fukafly opened a new clean threath for this with a new pol. Be sure to vote on http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=36384

Thanks
JeePee

Do you mean tabbed convos? Becuase there is already a plug-in for that 

http://blog.ben-ward.co.uk/index.php/2004/11/14/s..._msn_plugin_plugin

Yes something like that will do. In fact, the latest Trillian version also offers a 'tabbed' option in the container.

I looked at the link but don't like all the additional features since most of them are already in MsgPlus. I looked a bit further and found two other tab plugins.
* http://www.spadeapps.com/cameno/
* http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=22814
Based on the screenshot I like Cameno best, so I'll try that.

Thanks for the quick reply !!!
JeePEe

It is because of Messenger 7
Stuffplug-ng also has this feature (along with a lot of others) and it supports Messenger 7.
download it here (direct download link).

That's the one from the first reply. I did not want to use it because of all other options I did not need. Anyway, I installed, it works but does not look nice. The screen shot from the other 2 plugins look much better (but hey, they don't work...)

thx
JeePee

Actually, I can do it
Its not that hard...

Go for it .

Here you go

A bug: The window will not flash, but only a sound will be played (if you have enabled this feature from msn messenger)

Important Note: Close all the conversation windows before closing this program!
If you close the program with conversation windows open, the conversation windows will go to the center of nowhere and if you want to chat with the contact you were chatting again, you will have to restart/sign out/go to appear offline mode to chat with the contact you were chatting when you had the program open.


I know, this is not what you wanted, but I think it gets the job done

Download Container

Edit: Attachment removed, look in the replys below for a new version of the program.

Note: Its not a plugin but it's a stand-alone program because I was too lazy to make it a plugin

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Originally posted by Mike2
Here you go

A bug: The window will not flash, but only a sound will be played (if you have enabled this feature from msn messenger)

Important Note: Close all the conversation windows before closing this program!
If you close the program with conversation windows open, the conversation windows will go to the center of nowhere and if you want to chat with the contact you were chatting again, you will have to restart/sign out/go to appear offline mode to chat with the contact you were chatting when you had the program open.


I know, this is not what you wanted, but I think it gets the job done

Download Container

Note: Its not a plugin but it's a stand-alone program because I was too lazy to make it a plugin

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Actually, I can fix the "close all conversations" bug and the "open program, conversations are not added" bug.

Oh and sorry for the PM, it seems you replyed while I was writing you the PM

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Originally posted by Mike2
Actually, I can fix the "close all conversations" bug and the "open program, conversations are not added" bug.

Oh and sorry for the PM, it seems you replyed while I was writing you the PM

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Hello.

I have fixed the following bugs:

Conversation(s) do not go to the container window if there are open conversation when opening the program: When you open the program, the current open conversation window(s) will be moved to the container window.

Close all conversations before exiting program: In the last version, you needed to close all open conversations to exit the program. Now when you close the program, all the open conversations will be set free.

Thanks, I have a look at it tonight when I am back home.

Tabs would be a nice (optional) feature. And a real plugin would also be nice

thx
JeePee

Hmmmm I have been thinking about tabs...
They are possible but there is one problem...

If you have many conversations open, and someone talks to you, you wont be able to know who talked to you

You would have to go through all tabs...

Anyway I'll try and code this feature

lol do you know what you've got yourself into?

But i'm willing to try this out
any screens?

a container sounds kool, screenshots

oh, its just a big grey box with the windows inside it

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Originally posted by Mike2
Hmmmm I have been thinking about tabs... They are possible but there is one problem...

If you have many conversations open, and someone talks to you, you wont be able to know who talked to you

You would have to go through all tabs...

Anyway I'll try and code this feature

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BTW my poll is to have tabbed convos (like cameno/tabbed msn/SP:NG) as a feature in plus not a plugin/standalone app and also, not a container like you have requested/has been made

but hey i may be getting the complete wrong end of the stick here who knows  either way i want tabs >.<

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Originally posted by Fukafly
BTW my poll is to have tabbed convos (like cameno/tabbed msn/SP:NG) as a feature in plus not a plugin/standalone app

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Originally posted by Fukafly
and also, not a container like you have requested/has been made

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Mike2:
This is awesome... .. I really like the idea and this could have a big potential I think!!!
As it is now, it doesn't seem as much.. but with some work I would love this!!! ...
Heres some of my ideas:

- Tabbed convo's... .. With easy access to activate/deactive tabbed convo...
- Ataching/detaching indivdual convo's.. both tabbed and contained...
- Blink effect on new msg, or put an icon or whatever as TB does in StuffPlug NG...
- Making it a plugin...
- Getting the main window into the container as well... as the screenshot for Trillian shows... ... This shouldn't be impossible...
- And some other small things to really make it cool plugin..

would you Mike2 do this?.. would you be willing to take this project?... Would be awesome...

you guys seem to acs as if this whole tabbed concept hasn't been done before

Cameno does it

Tabbed MSN a Msgplus Plugin does it

StuffPlug:Next Generation does it too.

Still the more the merrier

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Originally posted by Fukafly
you guys seem to acs as if this whole tabbed concept hasn't been done before

Cameno does it

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Originally posted by Fukafly
Tabbed MSN a Msgplus Plugin does it

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Originally posted by Fukafly
StuffPlug:Next Generation does it too.

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If you have transparency on the Instant Message Windows and they are added into the container window all hell breaks loose. The conversation window is cut down (if using borderless convos) and until you remove transparency it isn't fixed. The other thing if you are using Set Parent to move them into the form then you should also do it for the MSN Messenger window then dock it to the right and resize the window to fit

I see what you mean with transparency...
Anyway, I can fix that by making the window opaque (did I typed that right?)
I dont think you can see many things in the window, can you?

i got cameno working with msn 7

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Originally posted by Fukafly
i got cameno working with msn 7

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Mike2:
Would you take this project?... And make it more advanced?

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Originally posted by JeePee

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Originally posted by Fukafly
StuffPlug:Next Generation does it too.

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That installs loads of other stuff I don't/features I don't want or already available in plus...

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I have started working on tabs.
I like your idea about having two or more conversation windows in one tab.
I don't know about blinking...
It is possible but it's a bit hard...
I dont think windows provides me an API to know if a window is flashing...
And if it did, I would have to check every once a while all the open conversation windows to see if one of them is flashing which would slow down your system...
Actually, I have something in my mind to do this, but I'll check it later...
Let me finish the tabs first

Making a plugin...?
Well, I'm making it currently as a standalone program because making a plugin would be kinda pointless at this time (compiling to see if works etc...)
But I'll see in the future about making it a plugin...


Anyway, I'll see what I can do

The bad thing is that I also got some homework to do (they are not much) but my parents I believe will start to say do your homework, do your homework!
The good thing is that schools start on 10th of January

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Originally posted by Mike2
I have started working on tabs.
I like your idea about having two or more conversation windows in one tab.
I don't know about blinking...
It is possible but it's a bit hard...
I dont think windows provides me an API to know if a window is flashing...
And if it did, I would have to check every once a while all the open conversation windows to see if one of them is flashing which would slow down your system...
Actually, I have something in my mind to do this, but I'll check it later...
Let me finish the tabs first

Making a plugin...?
Well, I'm making it currently as a standalone program because making a plugin would be kinda pointless at this time (compiling to see if works etc...)
But I'll see in the future about making it a plugin...


Anyway, I'll see what I can do

The bad thing is that I also got some homework to do (they are not much) but my parents I believe will start to say do your homework, do your homework!
The good thing is that schools start on 10th of January

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I think that the Messenger Plus! plugin api notifys you only when a message with a notify code is received.

Actually, if it wasn't parents, then we wouldnt be on this world...

And yeah I am 12 years old (look in T&T for a pic of me )

Yeah, your right.. couldn't find much in the msgplus api.. but using the Messenger API, try checkking out this:

Dim MsgrIM As IMessengerConversationWnd

then try something with

MsgrIM.History

Don't know how to use it correctly... and i'm not sure it would work.. but you might want to check it out... or maybe ask TB for a litle advice on starting with this "message recieved issue".... ...

Heh.. that's cool... .. you spell good considering you 12... and from greece... ...

How long have you been programming?

oh btw i think you should include tabs in this container app

Yeah, I finished programing tabs, but the other day, the laptop was gone!
The source was in the laptop.
Maybe I can ask it back to get the source but...