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Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by The_Thief on 02-10-2005 at 04:17 PM

Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7.

Build 604 contains quite a number of changes from the previous beta build (build 425) including slightly modified icons and a grey text message next to each contact icon's name actually explaining their current status (Online, Away, Offline etc)


[Image: MSN7604.jpg]


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by user27089 on 02-10-2005 at 04:20 PM

So i'm guessing this is a beta update them, will plus! be compatible with it or not... I hope it is :s...


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by The_Thief on 02-10-2005 at 04:21 PM

Me to we shall see :D


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by .blade// on 02-10-2005 at 04:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by traxor
So i'm guessing this is a beta update them, will plus! be compatible with it or not... I hope it is :s...


There's no reason it wouldn't be. This is just an update to it, if there aren't any major coding changes then plus! should be fine (it worked on all builds of 7 [after the update] so far, didn't it?)
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by The_Thief on 02-10-2005 at 04:36 PM

Yes it does and that's good.


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by x2zen on 02-10-2005 at 04:49 PM

Winbeta has now posted 3 screenshots:

1 2 3


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by toddy on 02-10-2005 at 04:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by A. Madsen
Winbeta has now posted 3 screenshots:

1 2 3

bac to single icons :D:P
it just looked strange have the status icon not attached to the msn guy :P, glad it bac to normal style

RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by user27089 on 02-10-2005 at 04:58 PM

I've got use to how MSN 7.0 looks, i like it a lot :)... Is this new version out for download now or not? Or merely private beta?


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by x2zen on 02-10-2005 at 05:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by traxor
I've got use to how MSN 7.0 looks, i like it a lot :)... Is this new version out for download now or not? Or merely private beta?
It's not on Microsoft Beta Place, yet. On mess.be dwergs says that we (private beta testers) will get a new build early march, so :S
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by mad_onion on 02-10-2005 at 07:56 PM

looks cool, its quite similar from the current version mabye with less bugs though. the personalized status thing looks good though. cant wait till its public!!! :)
PS what are you talking about when you say single icons??? where what do look like in the current version. Please explain.


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Plik on 02-10-2005 at 08:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mad_onion
PS what are you talking about when you say single icons??? where what do look like in the current version. Please explain.

Next to a contacts name it has the icon then it shows the status next to it.
I like the new my spaces button, more to reshack :pound:
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by The_Thief on 02-11-2005 at 03:01 AM

I need it bad :D


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Hank on 02-11-2005 at 03:07 AM

quote:
Originally posted by serpico
I need it bad

  go get some sex then :P 

RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Pr0xY on 02-11-2005 at 03:07 AM

For forum members that haven't heard.  Msn messenger 7.0 final is not going to be released untill sometime March now.  That is why there is an update in the Beta, for more testing.  Dont worry though, Messenger Plus will be 100% compatible still.  The new Msn Messenger 7.0.0604 Beta will be strictly private testers, so unless a MSN Beta Butterfly leaks it, which I would not rely on. 


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Hank on 02-11-2005 at 03:09 AM

thanks Pr0xy .. i hadnt noticed that ,, but thanks for the info :)


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Purity on 02-11-2005 at 03:24 AM

Ya, on the md forums, Ecko said there will be no release till mid march.


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Hank on 02-11-2005 at 03:45 AM

i can wait til march :)  gotta wait till  Fedora Core 4 to come out soon after than so doesnt bother me


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by J.J on 02-11-2005 at 04:45 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Pr0xY
Msn messenger 7.0 final is not going to be released untill sometime March now

jeez, they dangle the carrot infront of you dont they...it just makes me want the final version even more :P
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by NiteMare on 02-11-2005 at 05:34 AM

so where can we get this beta version?


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Hank on 02-11-2005 at 05:36 AM

you cannot


RE: RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by NiteMare on 02-11-2005 at 05:37 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Demz
you cannot


why not?

RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Hank on 02-11-2005 at 05:39 AM

its a Private beta release unless some1 leaks it


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by NiteMare on 02-11-2005 at 05:41 AM

some body leak it quick


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Hank on 02-11-2005 at 05:42 AM

no ccan do , wait but it maybe leaked like others were :)


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Mike on 02-11-2005 at 06:01 AM

Its not even released to the official beta tester, how can we leak it then? :|


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by NiteMare on 02-11-2005 at 06:32 AM

wheres a hacker when you need one?


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Hank on 02-11-2005 at 09:07 AM

quote:
Originally posted by s_lyon87
wheres a hacker when you need one?

do some googling i
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by x2zen on 02-11-2005 at 10:31 AM

quote:
Originally posted by A. Madsen
Winbeta has now posted 3 screenshots:

1 2 3
New screenshot:
4
Also Mess.be now has one screenshot:
Mess.be 1
:)
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Hank on 02-11-2005 at 10:44 AM

More Bloat ,, Great just what we need,


RE: RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Screeny on 02-11-2005 at 11:28 AM

quote:
Originally posted by A. Madsen
quote:
Originally posted by A. Madsen
Winbeta has now posted 3 screenshots:

1 2 3
New screenshot:
4
Also Mess.be now has one screenshot:
Mess.be 1
:)

Here's the whole Screenshot from Neowin.net
[Image: messenger7latest6ut.th.jpg]
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by user27089 on 02-11-2005 at 11:29 AM

Thats looking pretty insane to be honest, its gotten really dodgy :S... I don't think I like the Display Picture behind the icon... Its making the Contact list longer, and you'll have to use more scrolling...


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Hank on 02-11-2005 at 11:57 AM

i see what u mean trax,, didnt pik that up b4,,  aits just getitng more bloated each time ,, hate to say this, but Trrillian is looking good :P


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by user27089 on 02-11-2005 at 12:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Demz
i see what u mean trax,, didnt pik that up b4,,  aits just getitng more bloated each time ,, hate to say this, but Trrillian is looking good :P

I'll always go with msn messenger for its support and mesenger plus!, stuffplug etc... msn messenger is just trying to go for the 'everything else' thing, the dp in the contact list, like the aim buddy list... Its just getting everything else, its afraid of failing, which is what its doing, Plus! is pretty much holding it up...
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Hank on 02-11-2005 at 12:02 PM

thats true,, if it werent for Plus, ya could prolly say MSN  Messenger would or might be dead ,

i remember ICQ did the same to there client,, adding lots of unwanted features ,, people just left it an used something else, now i think ICQ has listened an is making it a smaller client an lot more friendlier to use , but with plugins you can download Manually


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by user27089 on 02-11-2005 at 12:05 PM

MSN Messenger would still be a thriving program, but they would have to steal features rather than being original.


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Hank on 02-11-2005 at 12:14 PM

steal features, i dont think would make M$$$ look good in court :)


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by x2zen on 02-11-2005 at 12:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by traxor
Thats looking pretty insane to be honest, its gotten really dodgy :S... I don't think I like the Display Picture behind the icon... Its making the Contact list longer, and you'll have to use more scrolling...
According to creamhackered (the one that took the contact list Screenshot) from Neowin you can disable the Display Pictures in the contact list and even make appear slightly smaller.
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by user27089 on 02-11-2005 at 12:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by A. Madsen
quote:
Originally posted by traxor
Thats looking pretty insane to be honest, its gotten really dodgy :S... I don't think I like the Display Picture behind the icon... Its making the Contact list longer, and you'll have to use more scrolling...
According to creamhackered (the one that took the contact list Screenshot) from Neowin you can disable the Display Pictures in the contact list and even make appear slightly smaller.

That would seem pretty cool to me, I wouldn't have them in my contact list, I'm not sure many will, it seriously doesn't look very nice, all thats happening with msn is they are adding useful features and the file size of msn is growing...
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Hank on 02-11-2005 at 12:29 PM

well thats good,


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Pr0xY on 02-11-2005 at 07:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lappin
quote:
Originally posted by Pr0xY
Msn messenger 7.0 final is not going to be released untill sometime March now

jeez, they dangle the carrot infront of you dont they...it just makes me want the final version even more :P
a carrot, more like a nice sweet donut covered with sprinkles and frosting... :P

Well I made a mistake in my post.  There is no chance of this beta getting leaked because:.... MSN Beta Butteries wont even have this beta, the only person testing this are Microsoft's Msn Messenger Team, there not taking any chances on letting this become leaked (And I dont blame them)...

RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Chestah on 02-11-2005 at 07:55 PM

I reckon the dp's in the contact list is a good feature :P, as for some new dodgy bloat of the search button in the IM window etc! that is whats ruining msn messenger, it used to be fast and light but now some of the stuff requires internet for it to appear lagging your msn and your internet! It just might be that its a beta but we'll soon see :) - also the personalised messages are a good idea if they integrate with wmp :)


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Kryptonate on 02-11-2005 at 07:59 PM

* Kryptonate just wants a lite version of MSN Messenger without a lot of the useless features that are in it now.

Just chatting, emoticons, audio/video conversation and the dp's.


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by .blade// on 02-11-2005 at 08:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Kryptonate
* Kryptonate just wants a lite version of MSN Messenger without a lot of the useless features that are in it now.


Just chatting, emoticons, audio/video conversation and the dp's.

Windows Messenger :rolleyes:
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by mad_onion on 02-11-2005 at 08:05 PM

lol actually i didnt think of that when i read that but it is kind of obvious. he will kick himself when he reads that!!!!


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by brianjdupuis on 02-12-2005 at 04:49 PM

I can't believe no one has found Msn Messenger Build 604 yet :(


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by x2zen on 02-12-2005 at 04:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by brianjdupuis
I can't believe no one has found Msn Messenger Build 604 yet :(
Thats because its not even released to official Beta Testers yet.
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by _Humphreys on 02-12-2005 at 05:38 PM

Even if you did have the build it is illegal to have it and illegal to use it. Unless Patchou has give it to you to test. :^)


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by x2zen on 02-12-2005 at 05:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Carltos Cool
Even if you did have the build it is illegal to have it and illegal to use it. Unless Patchou has give it to you to test. :^)
We are not talking about Plus! but MSN Messenger 7 beta build 0604. And its not illegal for me to have it because I am a MSN Messenger Beta Tester, but we dont have the build, yet.
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by _Humphreys on 02-12-2005 at 05:59 PM

In that case it's illegal if anyone other than a Microsoft Beta Tester and a Dev has it. :P


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by EvilSeph on 02-12-2005 at 06:09 PM

Yes, it is illegal for you to have it A. Madsen, as you haven't signed the NDA for the update, you shouldn't have access to it. If you do, it is illegal. Even if you are a MSN Beta Butterfly. Until Microsoft release the build to MSN Beta Butterflies, it is illegal for anyone, except Microsoft Staff and whoever they deem allowed have it, to have the new Beta build of MSN Messenger 7.


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by x2zen on 02-12-2005 at 06:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by EvilSeph
Yes, it is illegal for you to have it A. Madsen, as you haven't signed the NDA for the update, you shouldn't have access to it. If you do, it is illegal. Even if you are a MSN Beta Butterfly. Until Microsoft release the build to MSN Beta Butterflies, it is illegal for anyone, except Microsoft Staff and whoever it deems can have it, to have the new Beta build of MSN Messenger 7.

quote:
Originally posted by A. Madsen
but we dont have the build, yet.

Its 100% legal for me to have WHEN they release it at Microsoft Beta Place, because i'm enrolled to the MSN Beta Program.

So no need for you to get angry and stuff. yeah yeah I know youre MVP, but when they give the build to us Beta testers then we can download it, and MAYBE some idiot will leak (which I wont), then people start to download it, THEN its illegal for THEM.
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by vincerooney on 02-12-2005 at 07:49 PM


Nicely said Madsen, pwnage.


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by EvilSeph on 02-13-2005 at 01:53 AM

Re-read my post A. Madsen. Until Microsoft release it to the Beta testers, it is ILLEGAL for you to have it. ONLY when it is released to BetaPlace are you allowed to use it.

Please, read my post carefully.


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by CookieRevised on 02-13-2005 at 02:00 AM

Indeed.

And furthermore

quote:
Originally posted by Pr0xY
so unless a Microsoft MVP leaks it, which I would not rely on.
(...)
.... Microsoft MVP's wont even have this beta, the only person testing this are Microsoft's Msn Messenger Team, there not taking any chances on letting this become leaked (And I dont blame them)...
MVP has nothing todo with being beta-tester!
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by shadowdawg on 02-13-2005 at 05:20 AM

why doesnt plus work, some say it does and some say it dont, it worked till i resrtared and now its gone,


RE: RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Chestah on 02-13-2005 at 05:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by shadowdawg
why doesnt plus work, some say it does and some say it dont, it worked till i resrtared and now its gone,


The new and Illegal version of msn messenger has different properties to that of the older version which break msgplus's ability to implement some features. Please wait until this version is officially released eg not illegal and i'm sure then patchou will release an update :)
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Pr0xY on 02-13-2005 at 06:36 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Indeed.

And furthermore
quote:
Originally posted by Pr0xY
so unless a Microsoft MVP leaks it, which I would not rely on.
(...)
.... Microsoft MVP's wont even have this beta, the only person testing this are Microsoft's Msn Messenger Team, there not taking any chances on letting this become leaked (And I dont blame them)...
MVP has nothing todo with being beta-tester!
My mistake... I misunderstood that a MVP was.  I'll correct my post....

RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Purity on 02-13-2005 at 06:40 AM

mmmm on mes.be it says it's leeked...


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Mike on 02-13-2005 at 07:17 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Purity
mmmm on mes.be it says it's leeked...
[Image: old_news.jpg]


I have downloaded it and it sucks...
The contact list names are too small :blah:
And also Plus! doesn't work correcly with it :(

In general:
It is stupid... :P
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by L. Coyote on 02-13-2005 at 07:24 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mike2
I have downloaded it and it sucks...
That's illegal, man. :P
RE: RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Edna Mode on 02-13-2005 at 07:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mike2

I have downloaded it and it sucks...
The contact list names are too small :blah:
And also Plus! doesn't work correcly with it :(

In general:
It is stupid... :P


ofcourse it is, if its not even released in BETAplace or whatever its called than its bound to suck
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by spokes on 02-13-2005 at 07:57 AM

yea, its gay, but the personal messages and windows media player thing is cool, if n e one else on my list cud see em! lol


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by x2zen on 02-13-2005 at 09:10 AM

quote:
Originally posted by EvilSeph
Re-read my post A. Madsen. Until Microsoft release it to the Beta testers, it is ILLEGAL for you to have it. ONLY when it is released to BetaPlace are you allowed to use it.

Please, read my post carefully.

Yes, and please read my posts carefully, because then you will know that I do NOT have the 0604 build. I am using the 0425 build.
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by C3PO on 02-13-2005 at 11:58 AM

they still havent fixed the error message when you close a conversation 8o| how hard is that to fix!!??!! ive also noticed that the nudge is half the lengh.
see attachment;


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Antz on 02-13-2005 at 11:59 AM

Does anyone know when the 0604 will be released to the public. I was halfway through downloading it but stopped it because although I download a lot of legal BETA things, It didn't feel right downloading this illegal one. Anyway, I don't see what it should be illegal. It's only an Instant Messaging program!


RE: RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by C3PO on 02-13-2005 at 12:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Antz
Does anyone know when the 0604 will be released to the public. I was halfway through downloading it but stopped it because although I download a lot of legal BETA things, It didn't feel right downloading this illegal one. Anyway, I don't see what it should be illegal. It's only an Instant Messaging program!

dont worry about it its not  like ur gonna get arrested for it or anything :P just download it like everyone else is doing, look if microsoft really didnt want it to get leaked then they could easily stop it getting leaked they have ways only programs can be used by a beta tester. You have nothing to worry about just download it its cool! I think the offical version is going to be released april but im not sure.
RE: RE: RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Antz on 02-13-2005 at 12:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by C3PO
quote:
Originally posted by Antz
Does anyone know when the 0604 will be released to the public. I was halfway through downloading it but stopped it because although I download a lot of legal BETA things, It didn't feel right downloading this illegal one. Anyway, I don't see what it should be illegal. It's only an Instant Messaging program!

dont worry about it its not  like ur gonna get arrested for it or anything :P just download it like everyone else is doing, look if microsoft really didnt want it to get leaked then they could easily stop it getting leaked they have ways only programs can be used by a beta tester. You have nothing to worry about just download it its cool! I think the offical version is going to be released april but im not sure.

Kl. I heard somewhere that quick texts and personalised statuses don't work with 0604. Is that right?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by C3PO on 02-13-2005 at 12:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Antz
quote:
Originally posted by C3PO
quote:
Originally posted by Antz
Does anyone know when the 0604 will be released to the public. I was halfway through downloading it but stopped it because although I download a lot of legal BETA things, It didn't feel right downloading this illegal one. Anyway, I don't see what it should be illegal. It's only an Instant Messaging program!

dont worry about it its not  like ur gonna get arrested for it or anything :P just download it like everyone else is doing, look if microsoft really didnt want it to get leaked then they could easily stop it getting leaked they have ways only programs can be used by a beta tester. You have nothing to worry about just download it its cool! I think the offical version is going to be released april but im not sure.

Kl. I heard somewhere that quick texts and personalised statuses don't work with 0604. Is that right?

well in this version windows has its own custom away statues. Im not sure about msg plus's features if they work or not i think some do i think so dont i havent tried them out yet.

RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by M73A on 02-13-2005 at 01:05 PM

i like it! but i cant get the poxy wmp 10 thing to work! it worked when i installed it but it dont do sod all now!!


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Cromp on 02-13-2005 at 01:09 PM

i dont see why the msn team, dont put some sort of licence keys or activation needed for their beta's, if they want to try and stop the general public using them.


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by _Humphreys on 02-13-2005 at 01:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Cromp
i dont see why the msn team, dont put some sort of licence keys or activation needed for their beta's, if they want to try and stop the general public using them.

They are just to lazy or don't have the time to do that. :^)
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by hmaster on 02-13-2005 at 01:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by C3PO
they still havent fixed the error message when you close a conversation 8o| how hard is that to fix!!??!! ive also noticed that the nudge is half the lengh.
see attachment;
http://forum.mess.be/index.php?act=ST&f=25&t=5185&st=60#entry38804

quote:
Originally posted by Cromp

i dont see why the msn team, dont put some sort of licence keys or activation needed for their beta's, if they want to try and stop the general public using them.
Nah its intentional !

I have the BETA (A)
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by CookieRevised on 02-13-2005 at 02:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Cromp
i dont see why the msn team, dont put some sort of licence keys or activation needed for their beta's, if they want to try and stop the general public using them.
They do in extreme cases. And if this stupid leaking is going on further I'm sure that there will be a time that nobody will ever be able to participate in beta-testing unless you are a MS-employee especially assigned for the job and after signing tons of documents and risking fines if you leak anything... Then what? Then you're going to complain that MS is a closed/secret businness which keeps everybody out????
quote:
Originally posted by Carltos Cool
They are just to lazy or don't have the time to do that. :^)
No, they are not lazy. If they were, you wouldn't have a Messenger to play with and pass your time.
quote:
Originally posted by C3PO
they still havent fixed the error message when you close a conversation 8o| how hard is that to fix!!??!!
Apparently harder then you think, or it doesn't have a high priority on the bugfix list (because there are bigger security fixes to be done first)
quote:
Originally posted by hmaster5
Nah its intentional !
There is nothing intentional about some childish beta-tester leaking something because it makes him feel cool and by doing so messing up the trust that Microsoft gives to beta-testers and thus screwing it up for other people...




Spreading and leaking private beta's is illegal.

It is not only illegal it can do damage to Microsoft, the production of the product, to the honest people testing it, and even to unsuspected users.

You all are constantly complaining about Microsoft, and I'm very tired of this. If you all fail to see how leaking beta's can be bad then it's time to read up on some material like "PC for dummies", "How does one create a program", "programming for dummies", "start a bussiness for dummies"...

The reason why we say it is illegal is not to play your mommy and pointing the finger at you or just for the sake of being illegal. But because we do know what such leaked/private stuff can do. It is for your own good, your own protection and for the good/normal development of a program that you all like, that we say this.

Did you ever though of WHY it is private? In the past there were MANY examples of how private beta's fuck up computers.

If you want to play the l333t person who has a new leaked beta then go to some warez sites for all I care but don't encourage people to participate in this stuff on forums like these, where people actually care about a good quality product.

And no, it is NOT for the benefit of the quality that you should "test" an illegal leaked version (And I strongly doubt that you even downloaded it for realy testing it). Like I said there are VERY good reasons why some beta's are private and only meant for certain individuals.

There is NOTHING l33t about leaking a private beta or even having it, in fact it is pathetic and only shows your incompetence of handling software...

:@
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by brianjdupuis on 02-13-2005 at 02:16 PM

man just shut up about the illegal shit noo one gives a crap!


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by CookieRevised on 02-13-2005 at 02:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by brianjdupuis
man just shut up about the illegal shit noo one gives a crap!
My previous post explains why it is bad to participate in this leaking-stuff... being illegal is only one small part of it and even not the important one... reread mine and ES posts...
RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by hmaster on 02-13-2005 at 02:39 PM

Yeh, i agree, but as people have said they should either give it to people who they completely trust or have validation keys/serials/password upon open or even some sort of tracking software installed to know hwose leaked it :|


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by BigOne on 02-13-2005 at 03:01 PM

I have it :D and i am seeding it over BT as much as I can ;) Over 100ppl downloaded it now :D Not that hard to fint either...


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by hmaster on 02-13-2005 at 03:02 PM

100 - more like 1000 about half my online list got it + all those people at mess.be, winbeta probably neowin 8-)


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by BigOne on 02-13-2005 at 03:06 PM

I was just talking about my torrent and how menny downloaded it from only that torrent ;)


RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Pr0xY on 02-13-2005 at 03:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mike2
The contact list names are too small
There is an option to make bigger
quote:
Originally posted by brianjdupuis
man just shut up about the illegal shit noo one gives a crap!
First off, that was a bad move on your part talking like that to cookie, he will PWN you to the max if he feels like it.  Second, Cookie and ES are practically the only ones in this thread that should keep talking about how its illegal, then n00bs like you might realize that is truly is a bad idea to have illegal/private beta's installed on your computer. 

RE: Beta build 604 of Microsoft's MSN Messenger 7. by Tochjo on 02-13-2005 at 03:17 PM

Thread closed.

Every time a private beta is leaked, the same comments, remarks and discussions are being made. We keep saying the same things about legality and how participating in that (either by providing a link or downloading it or discussing it) can and will harm the trust that Microsoft puts into its beta testers.

Messenger Plus! forums will not participate in such activity and this is also made clear in the rules.