A-Patch for MSN Messenger

Visually Customize Messenger

A-Patch

Current Version: 1.3.0 RC2 (updated 1/2/2006)

Total Features: 70

A-Patch has been updated to include MSN Messenger 7.5.0324 !
Scroll down for a list of features.

Now it is able to patch MSN Messenger:

- 6.2.0205, 6.2.0208
- 7.0.0816
- 7.5.0306, 7.5.0311, 7.5.0316, 7.5.0319, 7.5.0320, 7.5.0322

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- 7.5.0324

Featuring a massive 70 options! A-Patch boasts a tremendous amount of customization to better your MSN Messenger experience, with even more planned!!

Latest News:

:: build 24

- Added compatibility support for MSN Messenger 7.5.0324
- Minor improvements to the User Interface

:: build 23

- Added new option "Swap Title - Artist" [Windows Media Player (I know someone's gonna enjoy that)]
- Added new option "Remove Toast Display Picture"
- Optimized Restore Backups code

:: build 22

- Added compatibility support for MSN Messenger 7.5.0322

:: build 21

- Fixed bug regarding the Auto Restore Backups advanced feature
- Fixed "What's Hot" section not being removed for the Winks menu
- Added new toolbar which allows easy access to common A-Patch functions
- Changed Show/Hide Last Settings hotkey from Ctrl+R to Ctrl+L
- Enters Release Candidate 2 stage



» Download A-Patch

Disclaimer: Patching MSN Messenger infringes Microsoft's Terms of Use. Downloading and installing this software is your own rational choice and I am not responsible in any way.


Hot features:

  » Install WinAMP Plug-in for Now Playing feature;

  » Remove "says" text next to you and your contact's nickname in the message window (english only);

  » Add Send Button to Handwriting Tab
This means that when you remove the ugly & bulky Send button from the Instant Message window, you can add it to the Handwriting Tab and still be able to send ink messages!!

  » Remove To: Bar
Don't you already know who you're talking to? Why waste precious conversation space.. don't! Get rid of it now with A-Patch!

Current Features (updated 23/12/2005)
A-Patch has a total of 70 features!!
The current features for the latest build (7.5.0322) are as follows:

[Contact List] - 25

Remove MSN Logo
Remove "Messenger" Title
Remove Display Picture Container
Remove Personal Message Bar
Remove E-mail Button
Remove MSN Today Button
Remove My Space Button
Remove Add Contact Button
Remove Search Bar
Remove Button Text
Remove Advertisement
Change Display Picture Link
Remove Contacts Personal Message
Remove Buttons From Contact Card
Remove Gleam Notification
Add Always On Top Button
Add Sign Out Button
Disable Song Links
Fix Add Contact Bar Position
Disable MSN Spaces Contact Card Integration
Remove Display Picture in Sign-In Window
Remove Bottom Links in Sign-In Window
Remove Microsoft Passport Network Branding
Swap Title - Artist (Windows Media Player)
Remove Toast Display Picture

[Instant Message] - 37

Remove MSN Logo
Remove Invite Button
Remove Send Files Button
Remove Web Cam Button
Remove Voice Button
Remove Activities Button
Remove Games Button
Remove Block Button
Remove Color Button
Remove Search Button
Remove Send Button
Remove My Display Picture
Remove Advertisement
Remove Font Button
Remove Emoticons Button
Remove Voice Clip Button
Remove Backgrounds Button
Remove Winks Button
Remove Packs Button
Remove Nudge Button
Remove What's Hot Section
Remove Standard Toolbar Text
Remove Formatting Toolbar Text
Remove User Is Writing Message
Add Always On Top Button
Change Ink Tabs to Text
Remove To: Bar
Remove Web Cam Icon from To: Bar and Avatar Containers
Remove Nudge Delay
Disable Nudge Shake
Add Send Button to Handwriting Tab
Add Mess.be Custom Games
Remove Yellow Info Bar
Remove Convert Tab
Remove "says" Text
Remove "Get a Webcam" Link
Auto Hide Display Pictures

[Miscellaneous] - 8

Offline Systray Status
Polygamy (Multi-MSN)
Show Idle Status
Remove File Transfer Protection
Boost Personal Message to 500 Characters
Remove Billing Info Menus
Shorten Status Info in Info Bar
Install WinAMP Plug-in for Now Playing feature

Is this an update you continue to impress me Ahmz_055.

Patching the client = illegal
This here stuff isn't tolerated here

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Originally posted by Carltos Cool
Is this an update you continue to impress me Ahmz_055.

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I don't think it's a patch Anubis otherwsie someone would of said summit by now he's been tweaking it for ages.

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Originally posted by Carltos Cool
I don't think it's a patch Anubis

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Originally posted by Ahmz_055
As always, patch on a clean install.

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Originally posted by Ahmz_055
A-Patch for MSN Messenger v7.0.0604

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offical site is a msn space

you do good work tho, keep it up

doing the act is illegal, reverse engineering is illegal, promoting the patch is not.

great work ahmz_055. i wished there was a patch with those features for msn 6

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Originally posted by Millenium_edition
doing the act is illegal, reverse engineering is illegal, promoting the patch is not.

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Originally posted by Anubis
MSN themselves discourage promotion of this...and since Patchou has recently been trying to please MSN by removing the ads and things, I don't think we need a reputation of being people who encourage it...really I don't like us encouraging illegal acts, despite the gain...

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Originally posted by Carltos Cool

Says the guy who mentions p2p's when people need programs.

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Originally posted by Anubis
Patching the client = illegal
This here stuff isn't tolerated here

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Originally posted by Tochjo

We also allow skins

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Originally posted by Anubis

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Originally posted by Tochjo

We also allow skins

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It's a fine line, I admit...but I still think we shouldn't encourage it.

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Hmm thanks for the support

A few people have reported some bugs so I've re-coded it for them.

Visit the official site to download (0.91 BETA)

i doesnt work for me.
it says close any instances of msn but there arent any open and then when i try to close it i get a run time error

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Originally posted by mad_onion
i doesnt work for me.
it says close any instances of msn but there arent any open and then when i try to close it i get a run time error

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oh thanks im so thick i got it working sorry my fault. it is very useful keep up the good work.

new version 0.93 no runtime 70 or 75 errors..... if it doesnt work for you - just use 0.91 and ignore the runtime 70 or 75 errors......

official website

oh when are you going to add my idea of removing the my games thing from the games menu. please do it, it would make me so happy.

that's a good idea, i'll add it in the next major version - when? soon

Ahmz_055, do you have a license to use darkzip.dll??? Also, there are far better and much much much smaller (AND FREE) zip DLL's you can use...

Also, instead of attaching a full blown reshack.exe to your patch, make your own resource-editor. It isn't that difficult. In fact, in VB (with some API's from windows) it is pretty easy to alter string-based resources from another application...

im sure he doesnt but no one is going to stop him. also do you have alicense for every piece of music you own?

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Originally posted by mad_onion
im sure he doesnt but no one is going to stop him. also do you have alicense for every piece of music you own?

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well then sorry but you are the expection. most dont and when anyone says anything about music you dont go "do you have a license to use that music?"

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Originally posted by mad_onion
well then sorry but you are the expection. most dont and when anyone says anything about music you dont go "do you have a license to use that music?"

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oh i didnt know that sorry and i was using the music thing as an example

I tried searching for free unzip dll's but i couldnt find any - any pointers would be appreciated

ResHacker.. I only use it for ONE feature in the patch, it's not for editing string values (that's done with code) - but for editing a MENU - so any pointers there would be appreciated too.

Btw, new mirrors are up at the official site.

What does this patch actually do/remove?

Remove:
- Ad Banners
- Search Bar/Button
- MSN Today
- Add Contact
- Activities Button
- Color Button
- MSN Logo
- BETA Tags
- Packs/Winks Buttons
- Nudge Button
- "What's Hot" Section

Add:
- Offline Systray Status
- Polygamy
- Idle User Status

ok. downloading now. Thanks alot

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Originally posted by Ahmz_055
I tried searching for free unzip dll's but i couldnt find any - any pointers would be appreciated

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Originally posted by Ahmz_055

ResHacker.. I only use it for ONE feature in the patch, it's not for editing string values (that's done with code) - but for editing a MENU - so any pointers there would be appreciated too.

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how long do you think it will be until the new version is released with the my games remover bit?

I just installed the A-Patch and it won't let my msn main window load up. Msn appears in the taskbar but when I double click it it doesn't load the main window. Can you help as I really want to use the Patch.

Did you use the latest version 0.93?

If so, repair/re-install Messenger, then run the patch again - making sure Messenger isn't running.

If you still have trouble, trying doing the Contact List first, then run the patch again, and do the Instant Message window...then again the Misc section, run Messenger in between each one to make sure it's working properly before applying the next section.

Updated the patch to v1.00 - Check the first post.

unforutunatley the spaces network is down at the moment "for upgrades". but i cant wait to get it
does it have the feature that i requested in it?

oh it is working again downloading now
what it didnt even have the feature i asked for!
i guess it was too hard to implement

um, yes it did, remove games button

make sure you click Instant Message on the white backbar

no i wanted to just remove the my games bit from the bottom of the games windows not the whole button. sorry i obvioulsy didnt make myself clear.

does this patch add mess.be custom games feature too?
If not can you add this feature?

p.s
does idle status patch work with non english version of messenger? (if you want I can suggest where reshack needs to change values in my messenger language, italian one, so you can create automatic installer for it like english version)

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Originally posted by provolino
does this patch add mess.be custom games feature too?
If not can you add this feature?

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Originally posted by provolino
p.s
does idle status patch work with non english version of messenger? (if you want I can suggest where reshack needs to change values in my messenger language, italian one, so you can create automatic installer for it like english version)

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Thanks a lot for custom games
For the idle patch:
I know, with the current patch "idle" status will be in english, if you want I can translate it for you (in my language "idle" and "away" words have more characters so the patch is a little bit different) and explain where change values in language dll so you can add another option for italian users and so one (maybe other users can help you adding patch for more languages).
Let me know, I will give you reshack values

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Originally posted by Ahmz_055
Edit: Custom Games Added.

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Originally posted by provolino
I know, with the current patch "idle" status will be in english, if you want I can translate it for you (in my language "idle" and "away" words have more characters so the patch is a little bit different)

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Originally posted by provolino
and explain where change values in language dll

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The difference is in the value location, english use 1033, italian one is 1040...
lines are the same, you're right
In the 604 build there are no problems because it's in english only, but the patch is for 405 and 6.2 versions too so value locations need to be corrected

A language reference in a resource is not a problem if you know how to deal with it (programatically). Also, the language DLL's of MSN Messenger always contain only 1 language (and even if they did had multiple languages, then still it wouldn't be a problem)

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
A language reference in a resource is not a problem if you know how to deal with it (programatically). Also, the language DLL's of MSN Messenger always contain only 1 language (and even if they did had multiple languages, then still it wouldn't be a problem)

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why don't you want to use reshacker? Mess.be patch uses it too

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Originally posted by provolino
why don't you want to use reshacker? Mess.be patch uses it too

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Updated A-Patch to include support for MSN Messenger 7.0.0632 beta, check out the first post!

nice

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Originally posted by ~INVASION~
nice

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cool - u might wanna change the link in ur sig =D

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Originally posted by hmaster5
cool - u might wanna change the link in ur sig =D

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ahmad did you see new mess.be patch?
It includes auto-updater and idle for all languages
It also supports localizations, if you like I can translate your patch in italian for next version

Added support for MSNM 7.0.0429, check out the first post.

New help/suggestion forum:

http://apatch.killercarrot.co.uk/forum/

A-Patch has been updated to include MSN Messenger 7.0.0732 !

I've also added a couple of new features - Remove the Send button and Remove Nudge Delay - bringing the total number of features to a whopping 32!

Check the first post for download instructions

i have a lot of problems when using your patch with 7.0.0732. all i try to do is remove the ad banner but it seems to always alos remove the whats hot section and get more from messenger, in fact anything that goes to the blue moutain site making buying winks and stuff impossible. could you please tell me whats going on cause i dont know?

Thanks a bunch dude

can someone help with my problem please. i dont know if it affects everyone but it does to alot of people like over at neowin are having trouble including larney who i think you know.
can you do anything about it?

Click on the other options at top 'Instant Messanges' and the other one, and ensure nothing is ticked. Also, make sure it's a clean install

yeah that doesnt help i have tried it many times it is a problem with the program. loads of people have the same problem.

mad_onion I will look into it and get back to you.

there is a bug in the chatting gui that you have modified...

What bug? I can't see anything with all the mspaint'n

I think he's referring to the convo border?

I moved the screen out of the window and dragged back in..
The left and top parts were colored like that.....

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Originally posted by mad_onion
i have a lot of problems when using your patch with 7.0.0732. all i try to do is remove the ad banner but it seems to always alos remove the whats hot section and get more from messenger, in fact anything that goes to the blue moutain site making buying winks and stuff impossible. could you please tell me whats going on cause i dont know?

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Originally posted by SubZero
I moved the screen out of the window and dragged back in..
The left and top parts were colored like that.....

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Originally posted by Ahmad
I have identified the problem mad_onion.

If you want the Get More From Messenger menu and the options to Create Dynamic Display Picture then the following two options can NOT be used together, you'll have to pick one :/

- Remove (BETA) Tags
- Mess.be Games

I'll make this problem clearer in the next version if it can not be solved. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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thank you so much, this is the only problem i had with A-Patch but now i can use

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Originally posted by SubZero
I moved the screen out of the window and dragged back in..
The left and top parts were colored like that.....

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That looks like a problem with your Display Adapter or perhaps low on RAM :/

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Originally posted by Larney
Cheers for the updated news. Look forward to the new version. Keep the good work up

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Originally posted by mad_onion
thank you so much, this is the only problem i had with A-Patch but now i can use

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Originally posted by SubZero
I have an 256Mb display adapter and have 1 Gigs of ram. I am sure that at least half of those memories are currently free
There was a blank invisible area there which is colored when I moved it out of and then inside the visible area.

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By the way, now I am unable to reproduce the bug..

The front form has been given a minor (or major?) update. It now automatically detects the installation path of MSN Messenger so that you don't have to select it every time! You also have an option to choose an alternate path.

I've also added some compatibility and important notes to the front, along with a link to the official help forum.

If you have any problems please don't hesitate to post in the help forum!

A very good patch, I like the ability to take text out of buttons. However, I think you should add these features:
1. Multi-lines nickname
2. Swap artist and title of the song
3. Disable Winks
4. Show disable tab checkbox
5. Change the handwriting and text tab to text instead of pictures
6. Disable user is typing

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Originally posted by Poom
A very good patch, I like the ability to take text out of buttons. However, I think you should add these features:
1. Multi-lines nickname
2. Swap artist and title of the song
3. Disable Winks
4. Show disable tab checkbox
5. Change the handwriting and text tab to text instead of pictures
6. Disable user is typing

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I'm sorry I didn't post in your forums. Also, thank you for telling me about the tab and wink thing. I never know that O_o.

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Originally posted by Poom
I'm sorry I didn't post in your forums.

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Originally posted by Poom
Also, thank you for telling me about the tab and wink thing. I never know that O_o.

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Added a new feature "Remove File Transfer Protection" for version 7.0.0732 - thanks to bedrock

View first post

I noticed the notification about the DDP thing in 1.08. Can you fix it so that the DDP thing won't be removed when selecting both options?

Ahmad... Very good job on the "Remove File Tranfer Protection"

Now i can send things i need to send, instead of rarring them

good job ahmad. i cant decided which is better A-Patch or mess patch

well i have 5 more features, and is 6x and 7x compatible plus file transfer protection has been removed (thx to bedrock), and you can choose to patch more than 1 version if 6x and 7x installed on the same machine

so choose A-Patch!!!!!!!! lol

haha

lets not make it a comp..


a patch, mess patch, messenger ghost

A-Patch has been updated to include MSN Messenger 7.0.0777 !

Check first post.

Great work Ahmad! I was just waiting till this was released. Knew it would be within a day after the release of MSN 7.0.0777.
Thanks.

Very nice Ahmad

I was wondering: is there a way to remove the 7 second adverstisement when you start a videoconvo?

Great job there! This is amazingly fast! 7.0.0777 just came out and A-Path is out! O_ô I have to say this is better than messpatch now. BTW, why is the mess.be custom game out? Besides that, when will my requests be added? They are... (I hope you don't forget)

1. Multi-line nickname
2. Swap song and artist for now playing feature
3. change the handwriting tabs to text instead of pictures
4. Disable user is typing. (I really want this)

How rude of me I forgot to say thanks..


Thanks

can you also add idle patch for other languages (I explained how to translate the italian one via pm)?
Thanks a lot.

P.S.
Forum doesn't work

thank you

i tried to download it, but for some reason the .rar format  does not download on my pc. 

is there a program in order for me to download .rar formats?

You need a program called WinRAR to extract the patch, you can find it here:

http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm

merci ahmad..
im gona try it right now ^-^
tashakorat

This program is great for the exception i dont understand whats the "religious advertisement" in the end for..

i just installed this patch.. and my whole contact list got deleted....

*praises system restore*

Your contact list can't get deleted, just by patching msn messenger. Your contact list is on the MSN server and not on your pc. How else can you use msn messenger all over the world?

I've added a few new features -- Remove PSM Bar, Remove Contacts PSM, Remove My DP Container -- and re-added Mess.be Custom Games.

Another thing, I've changed the download to a ZIP file and I've also cut down the filesize to 78kb, as opposed to 590kb

Check the first post for more info and the download.

Edit: POOM I have not forgotton your suggestions.

yeah mabye you should consider changing the ad at the end. this patch is getting to widely used something a bit more capatilist might go down well. advertise a product you like.

good job with the program.

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Originally posted by mad_onion
yeah mabye you should consider changing the ad at the end. this patch is getting to widely used something a bit more capatilist might go down well. advertise a product you like.

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Originally posted by Markus
Your contact list can't get deleted, just by patching msn messenger. Your contact list is on the MSN server and not on your pc. How else can you use msn messenger all over the world?

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Excellent patch.

Do you think you could add the ability the mess patch has, "Boost Personal Messages To 500 Characters"?

One thing I like in this more than the mess patch is how when you disable the, "search" button in the convo window it will then allow you to resize the text area to a smaller size.

I have it so the + bar fits in just so.

In the mess patch it has space above and below the, "send" button that you can't resize away. ( Yes, I'm very picky )

Anyway, great patch, and keep up the great work on future versions.

Edited for common typos.

Edit 2: Also I noticed this in other patches too. It's not big though. If you've made it so when you click on your display image in the contact list, you'll notice when you hover over it, it'll say, "View my contact card"

I know that can be changed easily by hand. Just felt like pointing it out, because it's kinda silly to have it say one thing, and do another.

Yes, good work with the patch and updated so quickly to

Added 2 features

Remove User Is Writing Message..
Disable Window From Shaking When Nudged..

many thx man , very nice patch , now it works !

Added support for 6.2.0208.

Check the first post for more info.

Looks very nice
but if you could somehow delete the Show new alerts-thing from the contact list then the contact list would look smaller and much more nicer!

Very nice patch love it..

One suggestion.. Can you add a emo typing option in the patch ??  For msn 6.2 there was a emo typing patch but for 7.0 there isn't

Updated for MSN Messenger 7.0.0813 and I added a couple of extra features.

Check the first post as usual

Very nice Ahmad! I consider you the best patcher in the MSN community.

Thumbs up!

p.s I have a few suggestions. I might post them or pm you them when I get the chance!

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Originally posted by linx05
Very nice Ahmad! I consider you the best patcher in the MSN community.

Thumbs up!

p.s I have a few suggestions. I might post them or pm you them when I get the chance!

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I think A-Patch is the best patch, but perhaps you would consider messpatch's new functions? I like the always on top thing. Perhaps you could try to add the add always on top button into A-patch too. Here are the features of messpatch that A-patch doesn't have yet.
- Add always on top button
- Disable Space in contact card
- Disable Song Link
- Remove Billing Info
- Swap artist and song
- Enable multi-line nickname

I'd like multi-language support for idle patch and a-patch menus too...
I pm'ed several infos to ahmad to include my native language support (italian) but he didn't add them to patch, I don't know why

Also please add latest version of messengeramp plugin for winamp support in the personal message, it will make title / artist swap possible in winamp too

P.S.
Are there any a-patch features that are not available in mess.be patch?

Don't know for sure... but Ahmad is much faster (after new msn releases) than the Mess patch crew

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Originally posted by Markus
Don't know for sure... but Ahmad is much faster (after new msn releases) than the Mess patch crew

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Originally posted by Poom
I think A-Patch is the best patch, but perhaps you would consider messpatch's new functions? I like the always on top thing. Perhaps you could try to add the add always on top button into A-patch too. Here are the features of messpatch that A-patch doesn't have yet.
- Add always on top button
- Disable Space in contact card
- Disable Song Link
- Remove Billing Info
- Swap artist and song
- Enable multi-line nickname

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Originally posted by Calvin
why cant i get onto the main site

edit: nevermind, but why cant i find the always on top feature in the list of things i can do when i install it

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Another update, added a few more features.. the latest added are:

  » Always On Top button on the Contact List
  » Always On Top button on the Instant Message window
  » Remove Gleam Notification
  » Change the Ink tabs from images to text
  » Remove User is writing message
  » Boost Personal Message to 500 characters
  » Remove Get More From Messenger and Billing Information menus

Check first post for more information.

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Originally posted by Calvin
i was hoping you could put that sign in button in as a feature as it wont work for me in mess patch

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Originally posted by Calvin
i mean sign out button, it goes in your contact list as a little button so you can sign out from there, its in mess patch but it doesnt appear for me, same witht he always on top button in mess patch

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Originally posted by A. Madsen

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Originally posted by Markus
Don't know for sure... but Ahmad is much faster (after new msn releases) than the Mess patch crew

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Because Mess Patch has to be translated in 11 languages before release

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Ahmad, everytime I want to check who's online in my contact list I double click the MSN icon in the system tray, open the MSN window, check status of my contacts and close it. Do you think you could add a feature to your patch that will enable to do this by just hovering the mouse arrow on top of the system tray's MSN icon displaying a popup window listing the contacts that are online?
This would be very helpful as it would save all mouse clicks needed to check this.

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Originally posted by alegator
Ahmad, everytime I want to check who's online in my contact list I double click the MSN icon in the system tray, open the MSN window, check status of my contacts and close it. Do you think you could add a feature to your patch that will enable to do this by just hovering the mouse arrow on top of the system tray's MSN icon displaying a popup window listing the contacts that are online?
This would be very helpful as it would save all mouse clicks needed to check this.

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Wow, I'm really amazed by you, Ahmad. You're doing an outstanding job on this, even better then the almighty Mess Patch!

hey nice job.. does this patch works with the german msn 7 ???
when i use your new patch and start msn and login i want to talk to someone then when i click on my person from the contact list there appears a windows
with " the conversation with .... couldnt start"

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Originally posted by CookieRevisedNo, Ahmad's patch is a... patch, not a plugin or addon which adds additional code and functionality to msn messenger. Everything these patches do already exists in msn messenger in one way or the other, they simply move things around or disabled them...

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Furthermore, hoovering over the tray icon will take you more time then simply double cliking on the icon. (An hoover action will only kick in after a certain amount of time!). And if many contacts are online (mind you that such things will not be made especially for you, but that other people should be able to use it also) you still need to scroll a list. All in all, this list will be nothing more than: ... your contactlist itself. So, in other words, I'm afraid this is even rather useless as a plugin or addon...

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Originally posted by alegator
1) I think this feature would be extremely useful, it would save all mouse clicks and a lot of time,and hence very convenient.
2) The convenience of this feature would be for ALL of us users of MSN, not JUST for me.
3) Conclusion: I posted this suggestion for the enjoyment of all of us, not just for my use.
Regards.

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Originally posted by alegator
the "checking" process would save opening and closing the MSN window.

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Originally posted by alegator
All of the options that you mention are not good alternatives to my suggestion, they all involve much more clicks

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Originally posted by alegator
Yes, the mouse is there to be used, but shortcuts are always welcome to save time.

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Originally posted by alegator
In case you have a lot of contacts (bigger than would fit in your screen), you can make the popup screen to show your online contacts autoscroll in the same fashion as say stock tickers or the like.Once it autoscrolls one cycle with all your online contacts it auto closes, so no intervention in the user=no clicks at all!

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I'm not bashing you either, I really think it would be convenient. Many times you just want to check if a contact is online and the popup would serve that purpose. Then if you want to send him a message you could open the MSN as usual, but the "checking" process would save opening and closing the MSN window.All of the options that you mention are not good alternatives to my suggestion, they all involve much more clicks and in the case of dektop contacts even worse, invading your valuable desktop real estate, unless of course you don't use it for anything else. Yes, the mouse is there to be used, but shortcuts are always welcome to save time. That's just IMHO, otherwise I wouldn't have posted in the first place. I don't pretend that you agree with this, but I'm sure many do agree.

I'm also editing this post answering to your last one rather than posting separately (your quotes in bold italic):
"The "checking" process would not save anything. The process requires to open a window with all your (online) contacts, this is just the same as your contactlist... and the process also would require the manual closing of the window, since it needs to be a scrollable window. There is absolutely no difference..."
That's not true. In case you have a lot of contacts (bigger than would fit in your screen), you can make the popup screen to show your online contacts autoscroll in the same fashion as say stock tickers or the like.Once it autoscrolls one cycle with all your online contacts it auto closes, so no intervention in the user=no clicks at all!
Opening your contactlist doesn't require "much more" clicks. In fact it requires 1 double click, and that's all.
Again you're missing my point. I don't mean to check your online contacts once a days for example. What about if you want to check every 5 minutes? Then double clicking so frequently becomes tedious and an autopopup with the above features becomes convenient
true, but this isn't really a shortcut at all. Even if you don't believe it, it will be a longcut.
Again, such a shortcut becomes meaningful when you have a high frequency of checking on your online contacts. Sort of similar to a stock ticker with refreshable prices versus having to manually refresh a webpage with the stock prices every 5 minutes...
And not to mention if you have MSN Polygamy with more than one client open at the same time...!

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Originally posted by azur
hey nice job.. does this patch works with the german msn 7 ???
when i use your new patch and start msn and login i want to talk to someone then when i click on my person from the contact list there appears a windows
with " the conversation with .... couldnt start"

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Originally posted by alegator
Ahmad, everytime I want to check who's online in my contact list I double click the MSN icon in the system tray, open the MSN window, check status of my contacts and close it. Do you think you could add a feature to your patch that will enable to do this by just hovering the mouse arrow on top of the system tray's MSN icon displaying a popup window listing the contacts that are online?
This would be very helpful as it would save all mouse clicks needed to check this.

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shouldn't there be an option to remove the new feature: The link on what im listening to? it looks like it turned to a link and when you click it goes to try to buy that song! its just useless! can we remove the link?

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shouldn't there be an option to remove the new feature: The link on what im listening to?

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it looks like it turned to a link and when you click it goes to try to buy that song! its just useless! can we remove the link?

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Ahmad, i love A-Patch, together with Plus! it is the reason why i'm not trillian user yet. Used A-Patch to keep MSN7 nice and clean, but there is one thing i would love to see...

An option to "switch" DP's in conversation windows and then hide my own DP by default.

Let me explain: The DP of your contact is next to your conversation and that takes up a lot of useless space. You own DP at the other hand is next to your send button and doesn't take much useless space at all. But i already know how my own DP looks so i hide it most of the time... so... Let's switch the location where both DP's are displayed (my own DP next to the conversation and the contact DP next to the send button)... and because i don't like to see my own DP every time... hide my own DP (located next to the conversation) by default. See before and after screenshots .

Don't know if it's possible, but hey... people said many things were impossible with MSN, look where we are now. At least consider it?

i like that idea MenthiX but I may be wrong, but I'm not sure if a Patch can do that.  Hopefulyl Ahmad will find a way

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Originally posted by MenthiX
Ahmad, i love A-Patch, together with Plus! it is the reason why i'm not trillian user yet. Used A-Patch to keep MSN7 nice and clean, but there is one thing i would love to see...

An option to "switch" DP's in conversation windows and then hide my own DP by default.

Let me explain: The DP of your contact is next to your conversation and that takes up a lot of useless space. You own DP at the other hand is next to your send button and doesn't take much useless space at all. But i already know how my own DP looks so i hide it most of the time... so... Let's switch the location where both DP's are displayed (my own DP next to the conversation and the contact DP next to the send button)... and because i don't like to see my own DP every time... hide my own DP (located next to the conversation) by default. See before and after screenshots .

Don't know if it's possible, but hey... people said many things were impossible with MSN, look where we are now. At least consider it?

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» Added the ability to check whether a new version of A-Patch is available!
» Added progress bar to patching process
» Fixed minor bug

»» Visit Official Website

thanks for the update ahmad

No problemos chris100 ...

I've added 5 new features and they are HOT!!!

  » Add Send Button to Handwriting Tab
This means that when you remove the ugly & bulky Send button from the Instant Message window, you can add it to the Handwriting Tab and still be able to send ink messages!!

  » Remove To: Bar
Don't you already know who you're talking to? Why waste precious conversation space.. don't! Get rid of it now with A-Patch!

  » Auto Hide Contact's Display Picture
Annoyed at your contact's display picture popping up everytime you open a conversation with them? Choose this option to automatically hide it upon opening the window!

  » Remove Invite Button
  » Remove Web Cam Button from To: Bar

Great job Ahmad! You continue to surprise me.

Is there a way you can add the view profile in the convo menu? It was in there in MSNM6 but it's gone in MSNM7. Is it possible?

Make an option to not start up MSNM. Sometimes when you release a new version, I want to patch my MSNM with it. So I restore the backup, A-Patch opens up MSNM. I close it so I can re-patch it. It's just something small but it might be better for people with slower computers, MSNM might take longer to open up.

An option to make save your selections? And an option to wipe them from the registry?

Keep up the great work! Have you got anything else up your sleeves?

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Make an option to not start up MSNM. Sometimes when you release a new version, I want to patch my MSNM with it. So I restore the backup, A-Patch opens up MSNM. I close it so I can re-patch it. It's just something small but it might be better for people with slower computers, MSNM might take longer to open up.

An option to make save your selections? And an option to wipe them from the registry?

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Is there a way you can add the view profile in the convo menu? It was in there in MSNM6 but it's gone in MSNM7. Is it possible?

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Hey Ahmad, I just downloaded the new version but the option to remove the To: bar isn't there Is this 'cause I've got 777?

Hi Ahmad, I've posted this in another thread. You answered in that thread, but not on my questions, so I'm so "rude" that I repost i this thread, where you seem a bit more active.

I like the feature that removes the text "Messenger" next to the MSN-logo, and the one that removes the text next to the Hotmail-, My space- and MSN today-buttons from A-Patch. And I also like the feature which adds a Log off-button from MessPatch. I have tried to use both patches, but it doesn't work, no matter if I use MessPatch or A-Patch first. Can you please add the Log-off button into A-Patch? Or du you or someone else have any tips to give me the Log off-button from Messpatch when I have used A-Patch? Or the opposite way, let me remove the mentioned texts that A-Patch removes after I have used Messpatch?

There is another function in A-Patch that shows users as "Idle" instead of "Away" if they have been inactive for a certain amount of minutes. Is it possible, in the registry maybe, to change the text "Idle" to something else? After all "Idle" is the only status that appears in English in my Messenger... In MessPatch, the same function is claimed to function only for English users, so A-Patch actually is better!

I found a bug in the most recent version of A-patch. It removes the Billing Info Menus even if I don't choose to remove it. I even tested the opposite way to see if the menus remained if I selected to remove them, but no matter what I choose they disappear.

I don't know if the next small problem has anything to do with A-Patch, or if it is the upgrade to Messenger 7.0.0813 that is to blame, but when a contact in my contact list have enabled a self-defined status from MsgPlus it shows up like this in my contact list:

Name (self-defined status) (Away)
(^ I guess you understand this symbolizes the contact list-icon)

Anyone seen that bug before?

Finally, great patch Ahmad! I first got introduced to Messenger-patches at www.mess.be, and started to use the MessPatch, but with MSN7, and all the texts next to the icons beneath the Personal Message, I prefer to use A-Patch instead. And your version of Always on top-icon also look better IMHO. If you only could add the Log off-button...

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I don't know if the next small problem has anything to do with A-Patch, or if it is the upgrade to Messenger 7.0.0813 that is to blame, but when a contact in my contact list have enabled a self-defined status from MsgPlus it shows up like this in my contact list:

Name (self-defined status) (Away)
(^ I guess you understand this symbolizes the contact list-icon)

Anyone seen that bug before?

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Hi Ahmad, I've posted this in another thread. You answered in that thread, but not on my questions, so I'm so "rude" that I repost i this thread, where you seem a bit more active.

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Originally posted by einum
I like the feature that removes the text "Messenger" next to the MSN-logo, and the one that removes the text next to the Hotmail-, My space- and MSN today-buttons from A-Patch. And I also like the feature which adds a Log off-button from MessPatch. I have tried to use both patches, but it doesn't work, no matter if I use MessPatch or A-Patch first. Can you please add the Log-off button into A-Patch? Or du you or someone else have any tips to give me the Log off-button from Messpatch when I have used A-Patch? Or the opposite way, let me remove the mentioned texts that A-Patch removes after I have used Messpatch?

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There is another function in A-Patch that shows users as "Idle" instead of "Away" if they have been inactive for a certain amount of minutes. Is it possible, in the registry maybe, to change the text "Idle" to something else? After all "Idle" is the only status that appears in English in my Messenger... In MessPatch, the same function is claimed to function only for English users, so A-Patch actually is better!

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Originally posted by einum
I found a bug in the most recent version of A-patch. It removes the Billing Info Menus even if I don't choose to remove it. I even tested the opposite way to see if the menus remained if I selected to remove them, but no matter what I choose they disappear.

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Originally posted by einum
I don't know if the next small problem has anything to do with A-Patch, or if it is the upgrade to Messenger 7.0.0813 that is to blame, but when a contact in my contact list have enabled a self-defined status from MsgPlus it shows up like this in my contact list:

Name (self-defined status) (Away)
(^ I guess you understand this symbolizes the contact list-icon)

Anyone seen that bug before?

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Originally posted by einum
Finally, great patch Ahmad! I first got introduced to Messenger-patches at www.mess.be, and started to use the MessPatch, but with MSN7, and all the texts next to the icons beneath the Personal Message, I prefer to use A-Patch instead. And your version of Always on top-icon also look better IMHO. If you only could add the Log off-button...

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/nudge Ahmad

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Originally posted by Jaguar
Hey Ahmad, I just downloaded the new version but the option to remove the To: bar isn't there Is this 'cause I've got 777?

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Originally posted by Jaguar
Hey Ahmad, I just downloaded the new version but the option to remove the To: bar isn't there Is this 'cause I've got 777?

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Originally posted by Ahmad
aha yea sorry about that, i am indeed more active in this thread, its kinda the "official" thread if ya know what i mean

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Originally posted by Ahmad
The log off or sign out button is already a feature in my patch, i updated it a few days ago, you should download the new version, the option is "Add sign out button" - and it will add a button next to the msntoday button

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Originally posted by Ahmad
If you want to change that yourself, you need to use a program like Resource Hacker and open up msgslang.dll in it.. navigate to String Table > 3 and edit string number 38, click compile script, then navigate to String Table > 7 and edit string number 101, compile script and save [exit messenger first]

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Originally posted by Ahmad
This occurs when some other features are selected, I like to think of it as a good side effect

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Originally posted by Ahmad
This has absolutely nothing to do with A-Patch

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I've just installed v1.1.8 and added the Sign Out-button, which looks like this:

Is it possible to make it in a more .NET-style? Either in v1.1.9, or by reshacking something myself?

MessPatch Sign Out-button (just to compare):

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Originally posted by einum
I've just installed v1.1.8 and added the Sign Out-button, which looks like this:

Is it possible to make it in a more .NET-style? Either in v1.1.9, or by reshacking something myself?

MessPatch Sign Out-button (just to compare):

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In reshack? In that case, in msnmsgr.exe? In the registry? Somewhere on my harddrive?

Sorry for being a bit n00bish at this, after all, you are the expert!

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Originally posted by einum
In reshack? In the registry? Somewhere on my harddrive?

Sorry for being a bit n00bish at this, after all, you are the expert!

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Thank you!

Reshacker is downloaded, and I just have to finish off a few things first that, believe it or not, is a bit more important than MSN Messenger!

BTW: Any maximum picture size?

And one more thing regarding the reshack of "Idle", the Norwegian word will be "Inaktiv" (yes, similar to the English "Inactive"), it won't be a problem with 7 characters instead of 4 I hope?

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Originally posted by Calvin
hey ahmad, would it be possible to add this feature i requested as a plugin -----> http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=44467

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Ahmad, just to let you know: I've reshacked both files like you described, and it worked great! (of course it did...)

Actually, it was quite easy too! I'm not sure if I'm ready to start messing around with just whatever string and value inside different files yet, but as long as I have descriptions it's like a walk in the park. Time will tell how long it lasts before someone comments on my Sign Out-button and wants one too!

Latest 2 features:

  » Remove Yellow Info Bar
  » Shorten Status Info in Info Bar

More info about these features can be found --> here.

I've also added the requested option of choosing whether to launch MSN Messenger after restoring backups or patching. By default it's ticked after patching, and by default it's unticked after restoring backups!

Is it planned to increase the number of characters in the "Boost Personal Message to 500 Characters" feature?

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Is it planned to increase the number of characters in the "Boost Personal Message to 500 Characters" feature?

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He means add more characters.

The best patch just got better Nice work

What about this feature Ahmad?

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What about this feature Ahmad?

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Originally posted by linx05
What about this feature Ahmad?

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Originally posted by Ddunk

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Originally posted by linx05
What about this feature Ahmad?

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What about the /profile command thats already in Plus?

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That's cool. I tried

The view profile-function is still there in the conversation window. Beneath the display picture of your contact, there is a small arrow, where you can choose among:
- view contactcard
- view profile
- size (of DP): medium / small
- hide (DP)

I'm not 100% sure if all these options are default. I have MSN 7.0.0813, MsgPlus 3.52.130, MsgDiscoveryX (BETA), StuffPlug 2.2.119 (for MsgPlus), A-Patch 1.1.8 (1.1.9 downloaded, not installed yet). I doubt any of the other MsgPlus-plugins on my system adds any of these features.

Edit: A few typos....

A few quick questions about these two features

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Originally posted by AhmadMore info about these features can be found --> here.

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Not sure if this has been reported, but when using the Shorten Status Info in Info Bar feature, when someone goes offline, the bar is blank. I mean, there's no text, just the little "i" symbol on the left, and the rest is blank o.O

Think you could fix that?

also these features are english only, can you add support for other translations? I can provide italian text if you want (and for idle patch as well)

do you plan to add a Large DP's option?

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Originally posted by mad_onion
do you plan to add a Large DP's option?

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Originally posted by Jake999
yes

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Ahmad, do you have time to look at the questions in my last post?

Thanx!

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A few quick questions about these two features

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Will this one completely remove the yellow bar? What about the yellow bar that sometimes shows when file transfer is slow? Is this the same function? If not is it possible to remove that one to?

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Originally posted by Ahmad  » Shorten Status Info in Info Bar

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This one just shortens the status as described in:

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right?
Will it show up as "Contact is offline" or "John is offline"?

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Originally posted by einumAnd if I want to have Norwegian text there, I have to reshack myself?

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Originally posted by provolinoalso these features are english only, can you add support for other translations? I can provide italian text if you want (and for idle patch as well)

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Originally posted by AhmadI haven't tested it that extensively yet, but that yellow bar should completely cease to exist.

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Originally posted by AhmadIt will show up as "Contact is offline"

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Originally posted by einumAnd if I want to have Norwegian text there, I have to reshack myself?

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Yes.

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Originally posted by AhmadAs I mentioned earlier, if I incorporate extra languages then I shall contact you for the italian translation if you're still interested at the time

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Note: Also Swedish and Danish, most of the Finnish and some Icelandic people are able to read Norwegian. So it will not only be for the few "Norsemen"!

Would it be possible to add an option to be able to set your status to "idle", so it looks exactly like you've gone idle automatically.

Sounds like a strange idea i guess but messenger discovery does it:

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Able to see "idle" and go "idle"
Being idle is hidden with MSN Messenger, but MessengerDiscovery 3 will make this status visible and usable.

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Originally posted by Joe771
Would it be possible to add an option to be able to set your status to "idle", so it looks exactly like you've gone idle automatically.

Sounds like a strange idea i guess but messenger discovery does it:



http://www.messengerdiscovery.com/?p=news

Don't really want to install messenger discovery for that one feature.

Would be useful if one of my contacts starting talking to me but i didn't want to talk to them at that time (for whatever reason) I could change to idle rather than have it look like i've manually set it to away looking like i've just ignored them!

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Originally posted by Joe771
Would it be possible to add an option to be able to set your status to "idle", so it looks exactly like you've gone idle automatically.

Sounds like a strange idea i guess but messenger discovery does it:



http://www.messengerdiscovery.com/?p=news

Don't really want to install messenger discovery for that one feature.

Would be useful if one of my contacts starting talking to me but i didn't want to talk to them at that time (for whatever reason) I could change to idle rather than have it look like i've manually set it to away looking like i've just ignored them!

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I actually made this patch for myself but I don't wanna include it, because I want to know when my contacts are REALLY Idle and not just ignoring me

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Originally posted by blaiseaz
Talking about this feature, it seems to not work with the last build .813! You have indeed removed it in your last update. Differentiate "idle" from "away", does not work. I realy need it. Even the one from mess patch does not work. It has worked fine with my beta .604. Any fix in the coming days??? Thanks

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please can you add winamp support for now playing future and swap title/artist trick?
thanks
I think the best plugin for that you can include is:

http://silicon.xs4all.nl/index/msgramp

It gives useful setting panel where you can change title/artist informations too

If you can, please add the ability to remove clickable link on now playing, it's present in mess patch and I think it's very useful (no reasons to buy song, if i'm playing it I already got it eheheh)
maybe you can replace the link on other contacts now playing with somethink like "automatic message asking to send that song"


P.S:
Is a-patch missing any other feature compared mess.be patch?

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Originally posted by provolino
P.S:
Is a-patch missing any other feature compared mess.be patch?

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Sorry, I didn't want to make you angry... just asking
I compared them and I didn't find out other differences so I asked if I'm missing something

I just wanna make your patch more complete

Friends?

I've actually planned to put up a comparsion between these two patches, so the differences is clear to everyone, I just haven't walked that road yet... (Re-installing Messenger, trying out both patches and re-configuring and re-reschacking my Messenger back to the settings I have now doesn't feel too fun... ) I'm pretty sure that if there are any differences, it will be pro A-Patch.

btw, anyone can explain me these options better?
I don't understand what they are related to:

Remove Standard Toolbar Text
Remove Formatting Toolbar Text

Thanks in advance

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Originally posted by provolino
btw, anyone can explain me these options better?
I don't understand what they are related to:

Remove Standard Toolbar Text
Remove Formatting Toolbar Text

Thanks in advance

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I red it, really thanks
If I can ask for, what about my suggestions in the previous post about winamp support and pm song link removal?

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Originally posted by provolino

please can you add winamp support for now playing future and swap title/artist trick?
thanks
I think the best plugin for that you can include is:

http://silicon.xs4all.nl/index/msgramp

It gives useful setting panel where you can change title/artist informations too

If you can, please add the ability to remove clickable link on now playing, it's present in mess patch and I think it's very useful (no reasons to buy song, if i'm playing it I already got it eheheh)
maybe you can replace the link on other contacts now playing with somethink like "automatic message asking to send that song"

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A few suggestions:

Can you add to "Shorten Status Info in Info Bar" the ability to reduce also the message when you open a contact window when you're invisible ""<p>It's not possible to send or receive message because your status is offline or invisible. Click here to go online"
(sorry i'm translating from italian).

Also, I can confirm a bug, after you apply a-patch it's not possible to click on yellow bar links anymore (like "Click here to go online").

Always in the same option please change
"Contact status is set to" and "contact is offline" with the name of contact, you just need to replace the word "contact" with "%1" in the msglang.dll

I think it's better

****Little update****
I managed a while with yellow status bar informations and I made these changes:

60 - %1 is locked.
61 - <p>Remember you are Invisible</p>
62 - %1 is %2
63 - <p>%1 is Offline.</p>

I think it's the best way to use one line only for every info message. Sorry for my english but i'm translating from italian messenger manually

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60 - %1 is locked.
61 - <p>Remember you are Invisible</p>
62 - %1 is %2
63 - <p>%1 is Offline.</p>

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Suggestion for the next version of A-Patch:
Enable the Always-on-top button in conversation windows without forcing the user to remove the MSN-logo. This is possible, I've tested it with MessPatch.

Just updated my MSN and MSG Plus but the link to Apatch is broken and all of the un-necessary stuff is annoying me! Please help..

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Just updated my MSN and MSG Plus but the link to Apatch is broken and all of the un-necessary stuff is annoying me! Please help..

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Thanks for a great patch Ahmad! I was so tired of MSN messenger taking up my entire screen due to all buttons, tabs and what-not. Now I have trimmed it down to this:

www.thorning.nu/msnstripped.jpg

The last thing I need to get rid of is the tabs in the main window, the groups. You can change the order, but you can't remove them completely. Being able to do that would be awsome!

Thanks again!

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The last thing I need to get rid of is the tabs in the main window, the groups. You can change the order, but you can't remove them completely. Being able to do that would be awsome!

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Tackar Erik! / Thanks Erik!

Now it's starting to look like I want it to!

www.thorning.nu/msnstripped2.jpg

An extremely clean and simple Messenger you've got there costre!

As I see it there is only two more things to do:
- get rid of the yellow bar above your contact list, that is an problem with A-Patch installed... Becuse the yellow bar get unclickable after using A-Patch. But try this: Settings - General - Click the More info-button at the bottom section. I believe that helped me after using A-Patch.
- use ResHacker to create a more discrete SignOut-button above your contact list. Maybe make it invisible? Just a transparent PNG-image. That will make it look like there is no button there until you hover your mouse over that area.

I have to confirm the yellow bar bug: after a-patch it's not possible to click on it anymore (both in contact list and in message windows).
Also some of the text in the shorter info options shows empty yellow bar without text...

btw, I don't understand the reason to make sign-out button hidden Maybe we can change the image icons...

Sign-out and always on top icons in the mess patch look better, maybe ahmad can use them in his patch

In my opinion the AlwaysOnTop look better in A-Patch, but SignOut look better in MessPatch. This is possible to change by using ResHacker. Read earlier postings in this thread.

My suggestion to costre about a "hidden" SignOut-button was because he has a VERY clean Messenger (look at his screenshot: http://www.thorning.nu/msnstripped2.jpg). I didn't mean to hide the button, but create one that is transparent, so you can't see that there is a button there before you move your mouse over that area. And there is no point for others than costre to have a transparent button, unless they have stripped their Messenger as he has.

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Is a-patch missing any other feature compared mess.be patch?

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As I mentioned earlier, I have been thinking of a comparsion between A-Patch and MessPatch. Well, now I've finished it: http://home.loqal.no/~erikeinu/patch/patches.html

Feel free to comment it. (And if you like it, why not give me reputation credits for it.... )

I don't think there will be a surprise to anyone to reveal that A-Patch has more features than MessPatch. But I got a little surprised myself, when I saw that MessPAtch actually have quite a few features that A-Patch doesn't have!

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Originally posted by AhmadHey, nice comparison 'preciate it Good to see A-Patch out doing messpatch (imo ).

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Disable Song Links
Removes MSN Music Search

That would be a good addition imo.

I personally don't mind the song links, it's kind of a nice way to tell the difference between an ordinary PM, and what your contacts are listening to. After all you don't need to click the link, I've done it once just to see what it was.

But I understand that different users have different needs, so I don't mind if Ahmad includes this feature too.

when u are in the process of patching the banner is a littile old

ahmad are you still there? eheh

what do you think about our suggestions/bug reports?

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Originally posted by provolino
ahmad are you still there? eheh

what do you think about our suggestions/bug reports?

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Well, Ahmad started this thread, and he is updating the first post when he changes the version of A-Patch, and also replied a lot in this thread a little while ago.

Improvements:

New banner made by myself.

I've fixed a couple of bugs, now the billing info and "get more from messenger" menus shouldn't be removed unless you select that option.

I've also fixed the bug that wouldn't let you click the links in the yellow info areas.

And a few other things here and there.

See first post for more info.

Hmm i didn't know? It's not on mess / MSNblog.. Anyone got info?

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Originally posted by Sypher
Hmm i didn't know? It's not on mess / MSNblog.. Anyone got info?

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Tnx for informing us!

Thanks Ahmad! Keep up the great work!

A-Patch vs. MessPatch comparison updated.

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Originally posted by einum
A-Patch vs. MessPatch comparison updated.

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Thank you! After all, I believe you have put a lot of more work into the patch than I did to create the webpage.

You can also use this comparison to:
- add more features (look through the MessPatch column to see what features you are missing)
- improve excisting features (look through the comments column)

Feel free to link to it from your site Ahmad. And others may also link to it from Messenger-related sites if they like.

PS! I've submitted the URL to mess.be when I put my comparison online, but I haven't seen any news story about it on their page. I doubt they will include a link or a text regarding this, since it actually shows that A-Patch contains far more features than their own patch!

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Originally posted by einum

There are no doubt that A-Patch have more features than MessPatch, but to make A-Patch "complete" I would love to see this fixed / included:
- Always on top button in conversation without being forced to remove MSN-logo (possible in MessPatch)
- .NET-style Sign Out button without changing the fullscreen button in video conversation (possible in MessPatch)
- remove the emoticons button from the formatting toolbar (possible in MessPatch)

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Nice.. It now supports MSN Messenger 7.5 (the Beta Release)

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With the release (leak) of MSN Messenger 7.5.0160 i've decided to release a public beta of A-Patch. You will find a few changes with this new beta version of A-Patch, some being:

Multi-Language Support (experimental);
A-Patch will remember the options you selected the second time around;
Options spread out over more pages;
Compatibility with with MSN Messenger 7.5.0160.

On the down side a few of the major features of A-Patch are disabled for MSNM 7.5.0160, they will be re-enabled once I figure them out!

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well many of the most wanted features are disabled, like nudge shake and file transfer protection. I think i shall email him with the offsets later in the day since he doesnt seem to be online much lately

I noticed the latest A-Patch for 7.5. I like it, Ahmad. You changed the sign out button to the .NET passport one. Great job. There are still some features I want for the 7.5 build.

1. Move "Add a contact button" to the bottom.
I like the way it was. :/ With the search bar removed, my contact list looks kinda wierd without something at the bottom.

2. Remove "Get a webcam" link under my DP in the conversation window.
Yes, I got this blue ugly link after I webcammed my friend. I do not have a webcam when I video con with him. I guess that is the reason why it is shown. I hate it, totally. I never clicked it and I guess it will link me to Logitech. Please remove it.

3. Move the webcam button to the old place.
I hate the small ugly webcam button under my friend's DP. I want it where it was. T-T Well, I noticed that the DP frame in the conversation window is thicker as well. I like it when it was thin. >.>

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Originally posted by Poom
1. Move "Add a contact button" to the bottom.
I like the way it was. :/ With the search bar removed, my contact list looks kinda wierd without something at the bottom.

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Originally posted by Poom
2. Remove "Get a webcam" link under my DP in the conversation window.
Yes, I got this blue ugly link after I webcammed my friend. I do not have a webcam when I video con with him. I guess that is the reason why it is shown. I hate it, totally. I never clicked it and I guess it will link me to Logitech. Please remove it.

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Originally posted by Poom
3. Move the webcam button to the old place.
I hate the small ugly webcam button under my friend's DP. I want it where it was. T-T Well, I noticed that the DP frame in the conversation window is thicker as well. I like it when it was thin. >.>

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With the release (leak) of the MSN Messenger 7.5.xxxx BETA's i've decided to release a public beta of A-Patch. You will find a few changes with this new beta version of A-Patch, some being:

60 features with even more planned!!

Unlimited nudges are back!!

Multi-Language Support (currently disabled);

A-Patch will remember the options you selected the second time around;

Options spread out over more pages;

Compatibility with MSN Messenger 7.5.xxxx.

  » http://apatch.tk/

Feel free to submit any bugs by using the contact form, thanks.

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Originally posted by Ahmad
A-Patch will remember the options you selected the second time around;

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Originally posted by linx05
Great job! I am glad you added that. Will there be a button or something to remove the registry entries?

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about: Polygamy (Multi-MSN)
Enable the ability to run more than one MSN Messenger session

If I enable this ability, I must run msn messenger twice to activate msn
messenger app!

Env.

Windows Server 2003

MSN messenger 7.5beta build 160, 162 and 244

adam.yao - Sorry about that, it seems to happen to a very few amount of (random) ppl, nothing much I can do about it.


What's new in 1.21.14

»» **HOT** I've re-added the beloved "Send" button onto the handwriting tab!
»» Fixed "Remove Send Button" Option;
»» Forced the Send button back to it's original (good) look when the Search button is removed;
»» Added a note when you select the "Disable Song Links" option.

Ahmad, you are doing a great job with A-Patch!

As soon as Messenger 7.5 is public BETA or final, and both A-Patch and MessPatch support this version I will rewrite my comparison, probably once again showing the world that A-Patch outnumbers MessPatch!

And as I mentioned earlier, both you and others that have a Messenger-related webpage can feel free to link to my little comparison.

Thanks einum

More good news! I've re-added the Always On Top button options in the contact list and instant message window, enjoy!

http://apatch.tk/

Dear Ahmad

I always cannot connect to ur website (apatch.tk)&#65281;

A-Patch has been updated for MSN Messenger 7.5.0299

See the first post for more details or visit the website.

There is a small glitch when you choose to move the "Add a new contact label" to the bottom of the Contact List. The top of the label and icon is cut off - see attachment. "Legg til en kontakt" is Norwegian for "Add a new contact".

PS! My comparison will probably be updated for MSN 7.5 this weekend - if I got time...

I can't see 'auto hide contact's display picture' on the list within the program. Any idea when it'll be re-added?

A-Patch: 1.2.3 (updated 27/8/2005)
Total Features: 67

Latest Features:

»» **HOT** Install WinAMP Plug-in for Now Playing feature;
»» **HOT** Remove "says" text next to your nickname and your contact's nickname in the message window;
»» Remove Send Files Button;
»» Remove Emoticons Button;
»» Remove Convert tab from the handwriting tabs.

Fixed:

»» Mess.be Custom Games;
»» Add Contact bar is no longer cut off when placed at the bottom;
»» Yes/No button captions in the Update dialog.

For a full feature list check out the first post or visit the website.

My comparison is now updated for MSN Messenger 7.5.0299! -» see signature.

MessPatch has sure made improvements since the last version, there is now fewer functions that is available only in A-Patch, and there are also some new functions that are not included in A-Patch... I still prefer A-Patch though! Ahmad, look through the comparison and try to implement the features that A-Patch doesn't have at this moment, and also use it for improvement on functions that can be made better.

I would love to see the following features from MessPatch included in A-Patch:
- Move Add Contact Button To Upper Panel (this will remove the Add Contact Bar from Contact List)
- The text next to SignOut Button in Messenger-specific language (msgslang.dll ?)
- The Always On Top Button in Conversation Windows not partly hidden behind the MSN logo
- Switch Tabs To Right Side of the Contact List
- Remove Yellow Info Bar in Contact List

And a new feature I would love to see:
- Remove text next to the buttons in the Contact Cards.
Those contacts who have both a WebCam and an MSN Mobile account have so many icons on the contact card that some of the texts is removed to make space for all the icons. Then it should be possible to force all the texts to be removed too.

When you are ready to include different languages in the installer, I could translate it into Norwegian if you want to.

When's A-patch 1.2.4 coming out? Translators finished their job on it a while ago, right?

Latest Developments:

-  Support for version 7.5.0303;

-  Five languages added! Including English (duh!), Dutch, Danish, Portuguese, Estonian & Spanish (feel free to use the contact form on my website to report any errors).

See the first post or visit the website for more information.

hey thats great i'll download it now

Support for version 7.5.0303;

Really? There's a new MSN Messenger build released? I've just downloaded MSNM new (the german version) and it's still build 0299.

Edit: Thanks Ahmad, A-Patch ist just awesome.

By the way: Are you looking for any new translations like german?
I've already sent you some days ago a mail through the contact form on the A-Patch website.

that prolly is a beta...

7.5.0303 not yet available on www.msn.no! Well, hopefully the Norwegian version will be available after the weekend. Haven't got any message inside Messenger telling me anything about a patch either...

Edit: Someone have splitted parts of this thread, the posts are now in Testing and Thrashing, and there you can see that Ahmad says this is a leak: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=49...d=527336#pid527336

Edit2: It seems the thread was splitted again! The other split is in MSN/Windows Messenger: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=49949

Edit3: I have a request for a new feature, in addition to those I posted on August 31:
Is it possible to remove the yellow infobar that shows next to the mouse cursor when you hover over your DP? See attachment.

The text says something like "Display Contact Card" (I'm using Norwegian Messenger, so I'm not sure of the English text), but since I have patched Messenger a click on my DP opens the change DP dialogue. The yellow info bar is also a littlebit "buggy" because it remains on the screen for 4-5 seconds after I have moved the mouse away from my DP. Quite annoying when the cursor just happens to pass over the DP!

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http://www.messenger-news.com/showthread.php?tid=22

Or

http://www.messengermad.com/comments.php?catid=1&shownews=141

explains

Aha! That explains alot! Thank you!

Didn't take notice of anything new with the GUI except for the two buttons to the left. But when I compare this picture and the one from your links with the GUI from 1.2 I see there are a better designed GUI comming up!

Then I just keep my fingers crossed that my requests for new and improved features will find their way into 1.3 or maybe a 1.2.*-version

Wow! You've really improved my settings saving idea! Keep up the great work!

And linx05's reply made it even clearer for me! I didn't before now scroll "a whole month" up in the thread to try to find out what Ahmad's screenshot could be an answer to...

hi all,
I installed a-patch 1.2.4 on italian messenger 7.5.299 and if I select to remove "says" text it mess all up...
instead of the "nickname" without "says" text it gives "impossible to create group conversation and other garbage text"

anyone can check it?

P.S.
ahmad sorry if I didn't translate a-patch in italian anymore but I was in vacation and I returned today... did you find other italian translators?

will be fixed in next version

thanks a lot, let's me know about translation

know that by simply removing the "says" you corrupt the correct working of some addons in MSN Messenger (including Messenger Plus!)!!!

CookieRevised's reply to How to get rid of 'SAYS' from msn nickname

thanks im aware of that

the problem is in the code that modifies the string, it's since been fixed and will be implemented in the next version

[First post]
Hello World!
Provolino told me, that there aren't Italian translators for A-Patch, so I (finally) decided to register to this forum.
Still need a translation?
[/First post]

Anyone noticed this yet?
Ahmad has redesigned the A-Patch website and he has released a public beta of A-Patch 1.3.0.

I downloaded that beta for about 5 hours ago. The redesigned pages is aprox. 12 hours old.

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Originally posted by Luigi
[First post]
Hello World!
Provolino told me, that there aren't Italian translators for A-Patch, so I (finally) decided to register to this forum.
Still need a translation?
[/First post]

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A-Patch 1.2.5

- I have re-added the Mess.be custom games, they are now compatible.
- Fixed a bug in the patch window related to the X close button.
- Fixed minor issue with a Chinese character appearing in the (On the
Phone) status tag.
- Fixed "Remove 'says' Text" feature causing other strings to be out
of place.
- Fixed "Done" screen not appearing for Windows 98 users.

http://apatch.tk/

Great job! Btw the site is looking REALLY good!

If I can suggest, replace myplugins.info winamp messenger plug-in with messengeramp from silicon.xs4all.nl...
it works better with internet streaming radio and configuration panel is easier (it gives the ability to ignore videos too)

i am updating some bugs that i found on the spanish version

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Originally posted by provolino
If I can suggest, replace myplugins.info winamp messenger plug-in with messengeramp from silicon.xs4all.nl...
it works better with internet streaming radio and configuration panel is easier (it gives the ability to ignore videos too)

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it doesn't support international characters like "àèìòù" etc well, sometimes it shows them as blank or garbage (especially with radio streaming song titles)

moreover I think messengeramp configuration panel is easier to configure (less fields and variables to set plus better explainations of them)

finally I don't like in general plugins that put their configuration menu in the winamp options tree, I think it's too intrusive

A-Patch 1.2.6

- Support for 7.5.0306
- Added progress bar while patching version 7.5.0306;
- Re-added Auto Hide Display Pictures;
- Added Italian language (thanks Luigi).

http://apatch.tk/

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Originally posted by Ahmad
A-Patch 1.2.6

- Support for 7.5.0306
- Added progress bar while patching version 7.5.0306;
- Re-added Auto Hide Display Pictures;
- Added Italian language (thanks Luigi).

http://apatch.tk/

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Originally posted by Scratchy
Mistake in the setup:

Should be 7.5.0306

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a few questions:

- anyone can explain me (with screenshots if possible) the "change ink tabs to text" option?

- I noticed there is "remove convert tab" but the convert tab is not present in my original messenger 7.5.306 (italian), is it normal?

- I downloaded latest 1.3.0 beta and I notices a few options like show idle, remove says text, shorten info bar, etc are now for english only... in the previous 1.2.6 they work for all languages.. why?


thanks all in advance

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Originally posted by provolino
anyone can explain me (with screenshots if possible) the "change ink tabs to text" option?

thanks in advance

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Originally posted by provolino
- anyone can explain me (with screenshots if possible) the "change ink tabs to text" option?

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Originally posted by provolino
- I noticed there is "remove convert tab" but the convert tab is not present in my original messenger 7.5.306 (italian), is it normal?

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Originally posted by provolino
- I downloaded latest 1.3.0 beta and I notices a few options like show idle, remove says text, shorten info bar, etc are now for english only... in the previous 1.2.6 they work for all languages.. why?

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really thanks einum

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Originally posted by provolino
- I noticed there is "remove convert tab" but the convert tab is not present in my original messenger 7.5.306 (italian), is it normal?

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I don't have it either (norwegian version), but I believe I have seen it in a previous version of MSN Messenger.

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OK! I had thirdparty handwriting software installed earlier, for use on the first version of Messenger with this function, but after reformat some weeks ago, I found that this wasn't necessary anymore.

Thanks!

Understood, thanks all

Cookie sorry for the OT

Well, all of the 3 questions provolino asked was A-Patch related, because each one of them was directly linked to an A-Patch feature. One of them, he couldn't find use for in his version of Messenger, and asked here - in the A-Patch thread.

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Originally posted by Provolino
- I downloaded latest 1.3.0 beta and I notices a few options like show idle, remove says text, shorten info bar, etc are now for english only... in the previous 1.2.6 they work for all languages.. why?

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thanks ahmad...
I downloaded it and works fine
thanks for making "idle" status translatable too

is there any way to make "systray status" feature working on non-english versions too?

The format of A-Patch language file has been changed and that's not good at all, only trouble for translators. In future I'd like to see a private (or public) changelog of translation, which would make our lives much easier. At the moment im working on 1.3.0 beta language file. Sorry for being so late.

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Originally posted by rix
The format of A-Patch language file has been changed and that's not good at all, only trouble for translators. In future I'd like to see a private (or public) changelog of translation, which would make our lives much easier. At the moment im working on 1.3.0 beta language file. Sorry for being so late.

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The language file I sent to be translated was not in a different format. You can use the same language file you have now and just add the extra strings if you like.

The other translators seemed to do it in quick time.

A few suggestions:

- Please can you make "Send tab" (the send tab you can add using the option in page 6) translatable as Idle?

- I tried last beta and enabled "remove says text" but it still gives the same bug of old onrd... now everytime I write something in a chat windows my name is: "is not possible to create a group. Try later." etc etc

- s it possible to make offline systray status available for non english messenger user?

really thanks

Latest News:



- Support for MSN Messenger 7.5.0311
- Added "Save Settings" and "Load Settings" buttons;
- Added Advanced screen which displays more options;
- Cosmetic changes.

http://apatch.tk/

Latest News:

[build 21]

- Fixed bug regarding the Auto Restore Backups advanced feature
- Fixed "What's Hot" section not being removed for the Winks menu
- Added new toolbar which allows easy access to common A-Patch functions
- Changed Show/Hide Last Settings hotkey from Ctrl+R to Ctrl+L
- Enters Release Candidate 2 stage



http://apatch.tk/

Another new QFE patch was just released Ahmad

7.5.0322 is now out

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Originally posted by Third Dimension
Another new QFE patch was just released Ahmad

7.5.0322 is now out

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Latest News:

:: build 22

- Added compatibility support for MSN Messenger 7.5.0322

http://apatch.tk/

:: build 23

- Added new option "Swap Title - Artist" [Windows Media Player (I know someone's gonna enjoy that)]
- Added new option "Remove Toast Display Picture"
- Optimized Restore Backups code

http://apatch.tk/

Good job ahmad! I love A-Patch

Nice job Ahmad with the new version of A-Patch but,

If no-one has yet done a Finnish-translation of A-Patch yet than I could try to do it before the year ends.

Hi, Ahmad. I have a suggestion of a new feature, move send (&search) button back to where it was in 7.5. It maybe hard to explain, so I made a diagram to explain instead. I really hope that it is soon implemented. Also, when will the new version of A-patch for WLM be available with more features enabled again? I can't wait! >.<

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Originally posted by Poom
Hi, Ahmad. I have a suggestion of a new feature, move send (&search) button back to where it was in 7.5. It maybe hard to explain, so I made a diagram to explain instead. I really hope that it is soon implemented. Also, when will the new version of A-patch for WLM be available with more features enabled again? I can't wait! >.<

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Why not suggest this to the beta team of WLM instead?

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Originally posted by Poom
Hi, Ahmad. I have a suggestion of a new feature, move send (&search) button back to where it was in 7.5. It maybe hard to explain, so I made a diagram to explain instead. I really hope that it is soon implemented. Also, when will the new version of A-patch for WLM be available with more features enabled again? I can't wait! >.<

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Why not suggest this to the beta team of WLM instead? It is now the time to report such suggestions since it is in fully development.
The reason for the suggestions seems very grounded to me as they force people to make there window even larger with this current layout.

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Originally posted by Poom
I did and I havn't gotten any reply because I am not a butterfly. That's why I am asking Ahmad. I already gave a lot of bug report and suggestions through the contact form. Too bad I am not a butterfly.

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Originally posted by Poom
I did and I havn't gotten any reply because I am not a butterfly. That's why I am asking Ahmad. I already gave a lot of bug report and suggestions through the contact form. Too bad I am not a butterfly.

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It's not because you didn't got a reply that they didn't recieved it. Also, such change isn't done in a fingersnip...

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Originally posted by Poom
Why do I have a feeling you are picking on me?

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Thanks for still making updates during the Messenger betas, and for also thank you for always being as quick as you are.

:: build 24

- Added compatibility support for MSN Messenger 7.5.0324
- Minor improvements to the User Interface

http://apatch.tk/

Ahmad, I think you should change the "last edited part" of your first post.. u put 1/2/2005 not 1/2/2006 lol....

Latest News:

:: build 25

- Minor Updates
- Added new URL to the Finish screen

http://apatch.tk/

Very good work, but you should remove your proselytism.
Most of people are not muslims.
Keep that in mind !

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Originally posted by Alexya
Very good work, but you should remove your proselytism.
Most of people are not muslims.
Keep that in mind !

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A-Patch surpasses 1 million download mark!

http://apatch.tk/ for more info.

U r doing a great job. Thanks in advance. A-patch will be perfect if polygamy feature's bug is fixed.

Congrats Ahmad, Keep Up Good Work