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Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by .blade// on 03-17-2005 at 01:43 AM
Ok, I'm lucky - I pre-ordered a PSP before they changed the rules so I get JUST a PSP, but because of a low supply of PSPs, Sony says they "HAVE TO" do this to ensure Canada even gets the PSP.
All 90% of Canadians will be required to buy a PSP Value Pack WITH the Gretzky NHL hockey game for an addition $50. Also: Canada will not be recieving any more PSPs after launch for another 6 months 
Wtf? I mean to force people to buy the Value Pack (a bunch of accesories) is one thing, but then on top of that to force them to buy a hockey game (I mean, we're Canadian, we all LOOOVEEEEE hockey, right? 
) which most of us don't want FOR $50 MORE is utter BS.
What do you guys think of this move on Sony's behalf?
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by MC.POP on 03-17-2005 at 01:45 AM
i dont think it is a good move many people will change their minds.
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by Patchou on 03-17-2005 at 01:51 AM
Well Blade I have to agree with you on one thing: forcing people to buy games alogn with the PSP is ridiculous, however, every store is doing the same thing, in the US too. I've yet to see a place on the net (other than eBay I suppose, I didn't check though) where you can order the PSP without some stupid "all public" games. Stores almost always lose money (or make non) on video game hardware (PS2 are still selling $5 below cost nowadays in many store) and it seems that this time, they found a way to prevent this from happening. I find this completely ridiculous, if they're not happy with the suggested price, they can just increase it: too bad for Sony if their handled device costs twice the price of a Nintendo DS to produce, consumers shouldn't have to bear with the consequences.
That being said, the Value Pack is something completely different. The price did not change when Sony decided to sell the PSP in a pack, this is more a promotion. Sony wants to get a maximum of chances for his fight against Nintendo so they decided that the PSP should be released with some extra stuff to look more interesting. Thsi is actually agreat move for anybody who will buy the PSP in the first weeks.
Last thing, about the 6 months delay for new PSP, I highly doubt that. I can't believe stores will be out of PSP for half a year, that's just not possible.
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by MC.POP on 03-17-2005 at 01:53 AM
but can u buy the psp without any additional stuff? without any additional games. even if the store sells it with the additional stuff.
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by .blade// on 03-17-2005 at 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by Patchou
Well Blade I have to agree with you on one thing: forcing people to buy games alogn with the PSP is ridiculous, however, every store is doing the same thing, in the US too. I've yet to see a place on the net (other than eBay I suppose, I didn't check though) where you can order the PSP without some stupid "all public" games.
That being said, the Value Pack is something completely different. The price did not change when Sony decided to sell the PSP in a pack, this is more a promotion. Sony wants to get a maximum of chances for his fight against Nintendo so they decided that the PSP should be released with some extra stuff to look more interesting. Thsi is actually agreat move for anybody who will buy the PSP in the first weeks.
Last thing, about the 6 months delay for new PSP, I highly doubt that. I can't believe stores will be out of PSP for half a year, that's just not possible.
Well firstly, Patch, No - the Americans do not have to buy the game, only Canadains do. It's a move by Sony of Canada.
And ya, I know the value pack is something completly different, I've been following the PSP for a year now
Also, The PSPs on eBay are the Japanese ones and cost more anyways, but the only difference is that you can't watch North American UMD movies or play NA UMD audio on them.
Finally, I don't know if the 6-month delay is true, but that's what I was told
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by Patchou on 03-17-2005 at 01:55 AM
well, I checked out many online stores in the US and all of them had only the PSP + games to sell. As far as I know, importing stuff fromthe US when you're in Canada is neither illegal nor difficult so I really wouldn't see the point in such differences, Sony Canada would just have everything to lose.
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by MC.POP on 03-17-2005 at 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by blade
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Originally posted by Patchou
Well Blade I have to agree with you on one thing: forcing people to buy games alogn with the PSP is ridiculous, however, every store is doing the same thing, in the US too. I've yet to see a place on the net (other than eBay I suppose, I didn't check though) where you can order the PSP without some stupid "all public" games.
That being said, the Value Pack is something completely different. The price did not change when Sony decided to sell the PSP in a pack, this is more a promotion. Sony wants to get a maximum of chances for his fight against Nintendo so they decided that the PSP should be released with some extra stuff to look more interesting. Thsi is actually agreat move for anybody who will buy the PSP in the first weeks.
Last thing, about the 6 months delay for new PSP, I highly doubt that. I can't believe stores will be out of PSP for half a year, that's just not possible.
Well firstly, Patch, No - the Americans do not have to buy the game, only Canadains do. It's a move by Sony of Canada.
And ya, I know the value pack is something completly different, I've been following the PSP for a year now
Also, The PSPs on eBay are the Japanese ones and cost more anyways, but the only difference is that you can't watch North American UMD movies or play NA UMD audio on them.
Finally, I don't know if the 6-month delay is true, but that's what I was told
rofl i feel sorry for u now
yes patchou but i think they will sell it with the value pack they just make people online pay the money so they can get more than the usual price.
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by .blade// on 03-17-2005 at 01:58 AM
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Originally posted by Patchou
well, I checked out many online stores in the US and all of them had only the PSP + games to sell. As far as I know, importing stuff fromthe US when you're in Canada is neither illegal nor difficult so I really wouldn't see the point in such differences, Sony Canada would just have everything to lose.
Well the online stores are selling packages, but in the physical store they don't have to (Why this is, I don't know), but it's not out until next week in the US and Canada anyways.
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by MC.POP on 03-17-2005 at 02:00 AM
yeah if i dont come back with a PSP on 12:00 am on 24 then it is only sold with the games and i hope they push us to buy it with the games.
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by Patchou on 03-17-2005 at 02:02 AM
See my edited first post... thestores just don't want to lose money this time and if they're all doing the same, then they all win. I just checked EBGames again, they have different packages but all coming with 2 or 3 games! The math is simple: there will be more demand than PSP, so if you want want, you're gonna have to pay the price.
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by MC.POP on 03-17-2005 at 02:06 AM
quote:but that doesnt make sense, the company offered it for 250 then they have the choice to raise the price by adding other stuff to it and keep some on the sma eprice because then trust me none are going to pay 400-500$ thats just too much.
Originally posted by Patchou
See my edited first post... thestores just don't want to lose money this time and if they're all doing the same, then they all win. I just checked EBGames again, they have different packages but all coming with 2 or 3 games! The math is simple: there will be more demand than PSP, so if you want want, you're gonna have to pay the price.
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by .blade// on 03-17-2005 at 02:08 AM
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Originally posted by Patchou
See my edited first post... thestores just don't want to lose money this time and if they're all doing the same, then they all win. I just checked EBGames again, they have different packages but all coming with 2 or 3 games! The math is simple: there will be more demand than PSP, so if you want want, you're gonna have to pay the price.
I know, but the people that pre-ordered the PSP at $300 Canadian are (most of them at least) being forced to pay the $50 extra too.
I'm in luck bcz nobody seems to pre-order around here, but most people are VERY pissed off.
The official PSP forums is lit up with....happy....Canadians ATM
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by Patchou on 03-17-2005 at 02:48 AM
quote:wow, now that does suck a lot.... but hey, as I said, Sony and especially video game stores are just trying to profit from the situation, I bet we're goingto live the same thing next year when the PS3 will be released.
I know, but the people that pre-ordered the PSP at $300 Canadian are (most of them at least) being forced to pay the $50 extra too.
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by MC.POP on 03-17-2005 at 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by Patchou
wow, now that does suck a lot.... but hey, as I said, Sony and especially video game stores are just trying to profit from the situation, I bet we're goingto live the same thing next year when the PS3 will be released.
i am 100000% sure that u can still buy it with the original value pack.
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by .blade// on 03-17-2005 at 02:51 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
wow, now that does suck a lot.... but hey, as I said, Sony and especially video game stores are just trying to profit from the situation, I bet we're goingto live the same thing next year when the PS3 will be released.
Hehe ya.
And btw, Sony loses are $50 US from each PSP console itself.
I just feel sorry for all the guys stuck with the Gretzky game that don't want it (by the way, you CAN NOT trade it in. It's stamped with "NOT FOR RESALE"
)quote:
Originally posted by MC.POP
quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
wow, now that does suck a lot.... but hey, as I said, Sony and especially video game stores are just trying to profit from the situation, I bet we're goingto live the same thing next year when the PS3 will be released.
i am 100000% sure that u can still buy it with the original value pack.
What?
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by Guido on 03-17-2005 at 03:00 AM
Prejudice to Canada? I'm sorry, but then what's left for the dozens of countries that won't get the PSP for months/years? Get informed about how much time it takes for this stuff to arrive to regions like Latin America (and I don't necessarily mean poor countries, but those with bigger economies and large medium/high class groups) and then thank God that you just have to buy a game to get it
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by .blade// on 03-17-2005 at 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by Guido
Prejudice to Canada? I'm sorry, but then what's left for the dozens of countries that won't get the PSP for months/years? Get informed about how much time it takes for this stuff to arrive to regions like Latin America (and I don't necessarily mean poor countries, but those with bigger economies and large medium/high class groups) and then thank God that you just have to buy a game to get it
Well those countries aren't considered large markets.
And by the way, I call it prejudice because USA and Canada ALWAYS have console/game launches at the same time with the same deals...accept this time
RE: Sony's prejudice towards Canadians. by Guido on 03-17-2005 at 03:19 AM
quote:...and USA is a much bigger market than Canada, so the proportion kinda makes sense.
Originally posted by blade
Well those countries aren't considered large markets.
You call it a prejudice as if they had anything against Canadians... it's a company decision (probably, in fact, by the very Canadian division, integrated by Canadians), and they have their reasons... Patchou gives some good points there.