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Is my tutorial understandable? by .Roy on 03-20-2005 at 01:58 PM

Is my tutorial understandable??

go to my site here
http://www.hobbes.tk

and click on the tutorial. Please tell me if its understandable and how does the layout look like.. I only worked on my site 2 hours so far :P


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by TheGeek on 03-20-2005 at 02:17 PM

i think you should give some examples on (free) php hosts, but the rest looks fine to me.


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by mwe99 on 03-20-2005 at 02:18 PM

Yep very good and yeah i agree try to give some examples of php hosts :) Good luck with the rest of your site (y)


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by Supersonicdarky on 03-20-2005 at 02:21 PM

good, but n00bs probably wont understand... (5 (*) rating)


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by .Roy on 03-20-2005 at 02:24 PM

hmm. Anyone know of a free php hosting site?


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by John Anderton on 03-20-2005 at 02:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by supersonicdarky
good, but n00bs probably wont understand...
C'mon its so clear ..... :dodgy:
Some suggestions:-
U could give a few free hosts like 100webspace.com (Really good.
1) Has a banner but 4 a person who needs only sigs, 100 mb and 3 gb bandwidth is enough :P)
2) Put a scrollbar in the main frame
3)This aint step seven ...... rename as credits or something :)
I mean
quote:
Step Seven
   
Enjoy your New Random Avatar script :P
(Script made by Traxor)
(This tutorial made by me (Hobbes)
:D
Rest all ..... its gr8 ;)
RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by Naruto on 03-20-2005 at 02:49 PM

I think the tutorial is realy good! I think even noobs will understand that. good luck with the site dude


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by .Roy on 03-20-2005 at 04:38 PM

i might reword step 7.. Like have fun with the script! Or something like this. I dont like removing stuff


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by user35870 on 03-20-2005 at 04:49 PM

The tutorial is good and simple (Y)


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by user27089 on 03-20-2005 at 05:09 PM

I can't seem to access your tutorial site sorry, can you post a direct link instead of a .tk or whatever.

I can't see the problem... it doesn't time out or say site missing :s.


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by Plik on 03-20-2005 at 05:12 PM

http://hobbes.subhost.com.ar/


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by M73A on 03-20-2005 at 05:12 PM

can you give an example of a good FREE;) php host


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by user27089 on 03-20-2005 at 05:17 PM

Hobbes, I don't want to take credit for the php script, it was made by Madman and edited a little bit by fluffy lobster (because of a security issue).


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by Plik on 03-20-2005 at 05:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by traxor
Hobbes, I don't want to take credit for the php script, it was made by Madman and edited a little bit by fluffy lobster (because of a security issue).

Thanks, i wasnt going to mention it but... :)

oh and ive updated the script so it lets the browser cache the images. Meaning less loading times.
code:
<?php
$dir = "imgs"; //The folder where all the images are kept
$dh = opendir($dir);
$files = array();
while (false !== ($filename = readdir($dh))) {
$files[] = $filename;
}
sort($files);
array_splice($files, 0, 2);
$filesnum = count($files);
srand( (double) microtime()*1000000 );
$randnum = rand(0, $filesnum - 1);
header("Location: " . $dir . "/" . $files[$randnum]); //redirects the browser to a random file, allowing it to cache
?>

RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by user27089 on 03-20-2005 at 05:27 PM

Thanks for the new code, I've edited mine now...

I didn't want to take credit for somebody elses work now did I dude ;).


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by .Roy on 03-20-2005 at 05:34 PM

Madman i prefer the other one that traxor game me. I will put your name though cuz u did make it :)


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by M73A on 03-20-2005 at 05:42 PM

what php host do you use traxor?


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by John Anderton on 03-20-2005 at 05:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by may73alliance
what php host do you use traxor?
He uses his own host. He has bought 2 hosting spaces afaik. 1 is for his site http://www.skarz.co.uk while the other is for http://www.mpsupport.net/ and these sites r obviously called Skarz and Messenger Plus! (MP) Support ;)

quote:
Originally posted by may73alliance
can you give an example of a good FREE php host
I stated a free host with php in an earlier post didnt i ^o)
Here it is again .... http://www.100webspace.com
RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by .Roy on 03-20-2005 at 05:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by John Anderton
quote:
Originally posted by may73alliance
what php host do you use traxor?
He uses his own host. He has bought 2 hosting spaces afaik. 1 is for his site http://www.skarz.co.uk while the other is for http://www.mpsupport.net/ and these sites r obviously called Skarz and Messenger Plus! (MP) Support ;)

quote:
Originally posted by may73alliance
can you give an example of a good FREE php host
I stated a free host with php in an earlier post didnt i ^o)
Here it is again .... http://www.100webspace.com
Yes i put that for example. I am looking for another one! anyone know.
P.S updated site. How does it look. Better?

RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by John Anderton on 03-20-2005 at 06:01 PM

Hobbes u need to add a header for the page .... i used the link to ur site directly not via the .tk but by the link madman gave (found out by looking at the status bar ... thats what i do)
The page header still sayz untitled document .... change that.

quote:
P.S : This site is currently under construction.
And if you wish to help me email me @ Hobbes@Hobbes.tk
Remove that to avoid confusion and that looks a bit bad imo .... just say 'at' ;)
U need to correct the link to the site i told u. It currently sayz
code:
http://www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/www.100webspace.com
I see that all ur links are screwed up :S Even the php download one :S
The php download one shows
code:
http://www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/download.php?file=avatar.php

So u need to correct these things ..... these werent there last time i checked.
RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by CookieRevised on 03-20-2005 at 06:03 PM

good, clean and short tutorial Hobbes (Y)

one small bit though: the download link isn't right:
http://www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/www.hobbes.subho...hp?file=avatar.php
This must obviously be:
http://www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/download.php?file=avatar.php


If you put www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/download.php?file=avatar.php then that's a relative link, meaning it will be put together with the main page's link and thus you'll get:
http://www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/.....
so iether change it to:
http://www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/download.php?file=avatar.php to make it an absolute link. Or:
download.php?file=avatar.php to make it simply and relative to the main page URL.


;)

EDIT: John Anderton was first... :p

----------

Also the html page avatar_script.htm: It doesn't contain the proper HTML tags!

Every html page must consist of:
<html>
  <body>
  </body>
</html>
even when they are frames... So the page avatar_script.htm must be like this (just as other pages):
<html>
  <head>
    <meta (...)>
    <style>
      (...)
    </style>
  </head>
  <body>
    (...)
  </body>
</html>


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by .Roy on 03-20-2005 at 06:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by John Anderton
Hobbes u need to add a header for the page .... i used the link to ur site directly not via the .tk but by the link madman gave (found out by looking at the status bar ... thats what i do)
The page header still sayz untitled document .... change that.

Remove that to avoid confusion and that looks a bit bad imo .... just say 'at' ;)
U need to correct the link to the site i told u. It currently sayz
code:
http://www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/www.100webspace.com
I see that all ur links are screwed up :S Even the php download one :S
The php download one shows
code:
http://www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/download.php?file=avatar.php

So u need to correct these things ..... these werent there last time i checked.
Hmm i already changed the @ part but i forgot to upload it :refuck:
anyway thanks for finding the errors. I fixed them right now :P Thanks a lot John
RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by .Roy on 03-20-2005 at 06:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
good, clean and short tutorial Hobbes (Y)

one small bit though: the download link isn't right:
http://www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/www.hobbes.subho...hp?file=avatar.php
This must obviously be:
http://www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/download.php?file=avatar.php


If you put www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/download.php?file=avatar.php then that's a relative link, meaning it will be put together with the main page's link and thus you'll get:
http://www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/.....
so iether change it to:
http://www.hobbes.subhost.com.ar/download.php?file=avatar.php to make it an absolute link. Or:
download.php?file=avatar.php to make it simply and relative to the main page URL.


;)

EDIT: John Anderton was first... :p

----------

Also the html page avatar_script.htm: It doesn't contain the proper HTML tags!

Every html page must consist of:
<html>
  <body>
  </body>
</html>
even when they are frames... So the page avatar_script.htm must be like this (just as other pages):
<html>
  <head>
    <meta (...)>
    <style>
      (...)
    </style>
  </head>
  <body>
    (...)
  </body>
</html>

Ok the first half i did when John told me the errors i just got someone to explain it to me :)
I dont understand why the meta and all the <body> stuff are so important. I added it anyway but not to the frame.. I think its fine how it is :P Does it change anything cookie?

Sorry for double post btw. i just believe it will be to big and it shouldnt be edited.
RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by CookieRevised on 03-20-2005 at 06:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Hobbes
I added it anyway but not to the frame.. I think its fine how it is
It is not fine. Those tags are a must, mandatory, not-optional, ... It is how html works! The reason why it works without those tags is because your browser doesn't bother sticking to the protocol. :D

It like if would leave out some words in sentence, you still would understand sentence though, but isn't proper English.


---

EDIT: additional tip: put a background color on your page (in the <body> tag, or stylesheed). Not all browsers are set to white for their background color ;)
RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by .Roy on 03-20-2005 at 06:43 PM

err.. So you are saying that i should put them because they are more proffesional? Who the helll looks at my source code anyways!!!

anyway i dont know what ur talking about, if i send u my 3 html files that make up my site can u fix them by making them proper?
Thanks


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by CookieRevised on 03-20-2005 at 06:46 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Hobbes
err.. So you are saying that i should put them because they are more proffesional? Who the helll looks at my source code anyways!!!
not only professional, it will be proper html. Html which will work on all browsers... It has actually not much todo with being professional, it is how you MUST do it ;)

You also don't go writing a program without declaring/initializing variables and without a button to close the program ;) (lame example, but still :p)

quote:
Originally posted by Hobbes
anyway i dont know what ur talking about, if i send u my 3 html files that make up my site can u fix them by making them proper?
look at how you created home.htm... avatar_script.htm should be the same (thus including <html>, <head>, <body>, etc...)

RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by .Roy on 03-20-2005 at 07:01 PM

i sent u a pm with the files. Please download them and add the parts to make them look pro....

LoL. i didnt remove the body or anything. Somehow it went away


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by Naruto on 03-20-2005 at 07:07 PM

I think the website is realy nice I like the style but the website needs some color dude add some life into it


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by user27089 on 03-20-2005 at 07:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Naruto
I think the website is realy nice I like the style but the website needs some color dude add some life into it

I think that he's trying to maintain the overall black and white feel that is presented in Hobbes + Calvin...
RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by .Roy on 03-20-2005 at 07:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by traxor
quote:
Originally posted by Naruto
I think the website is realy nice I like the style but the website needs some color dude add some life into it

I think that he's trying to maintain the overall black and white feel that is presented in Hobbes + Calvin...

Well not really.. LoL..  I do that with all my sites! I am to lazy to put color into it.
RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by Rik on 03-20-2005 at 07:25 PM

The site is pretty god.(Y)need color and more  content.
Kep it up the god job!(Y)


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by CookieRevised on 03-20-2005 at 07:29 PM

can still be optimized though...

what I did:
-added the html, head, body stuff
-fixed some very small spelling mistakes
-made links relative
-added target="_top" on the 100webspace link
-added 'indenting' (is that the word?)

what I didn't do:
-checking for optimized stylesheed use, tag use, etc...

some tip:
make every link, directory, file lowercased. This will prevent you from making sometimes hard to find errors in links and stuff. eg: the directory 'Images', make it 'images' (and change it also in the links on the pages of course). Same with file names, eg: 'HobbesMiniBanner.jpg'. If you accidental write 'HobbesMinibanner.jpg' somewhere, the image wouldn't load...

anyways...

;)


RE: Is my tutorial understandable? by .Roy on 03-20-2005 at 07:32 PM

thanks doood!!!! your 1337ness!!

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