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AMD Sempron by Joe on 03-28-2005 at 03:29 AM

AMD Sempron... anyone ever heard of it... likely you have, but how good a processor is this?
my sister bought a new Compaq Presario (:S)
256 Megs of RAM (:S)
and an AMD Sempron processor.... it has been operating slowly since purchase and I was wondering if anyone knows why this would be... (Besides the whole Compaq thing and the 256 Meg RAM thing...:|)


RE: AMD Sempron by lizard.boy on 03-28-2005 at 03:35 AM

well i know where i can get a sempron and a motherboard for $120. i'm guessing there older chips and i'd say they might be slower. please dont blame it on the amd:P


RE: AMD Sempron by Hank on 03-28-2005 at 03:44 AM

a Sampron has slower FSB = front serial Bus speeds than a Athlon does


RE: AMD Sempron by albert on 03-28-2005 at 05:18 AM

quote:
Originally posted by atownjoe
AMD Sempron... anyone ever heard of it... likely you have, but how good a processor is this?
my sister bought a new Compaq Presario (:S)
256 Megs of RAM (:S)
and an AMD Sempron processor.... it has been operating slowly since purchase and I was wondering if anyone knows why this would be... (Besides the whole Compaq thing and the 256 Meg RAM thing...:|)

never heard of it which isnt a good sign.. me being some1 who regularly check new CPUs.. and the fact it only has 256 of ram cant help either..
but this is only my opinion so..
RE: AMD Sempron by Hank on 03-28-2005 at 05:21 AM

you do really need more Ram than 256 ..512 or more on the safe side.. but the sampron is akka the old AMD Duron


RE: AMD Sempron by .blade// on 03-28-2005 at 05:27 AM

AMD Sepron processors are intended for use in servers.

IF YOU CAN, get an Athlon 64.


RE: AMD Sempron by Hank on 03-28-2005 at 05:29 AM

quote:
Originally posted by blade

AMD Sepron processors are intended for use in servers.

Not really blade.. there for the low cost user that dont require a lot of speed like us Guru's :P the Opteron an those are for servers, not the Sampron
RE: AMD Sempron by .blade// on 03-28-2005 at 05:43 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Demz
quote:
Originally posted by blade

AMD Sepron processors are intended for use in servers.

Not really blade.. there for the low cost user that dont require a lot of speed like us Guru's :P the Opteron an those are for servers, not the Sampron


Whoops - got the 2 mixed up.
RE: AMD Sempron by wj on 03-28-2005 at 06:30 AM

Sempron is the equivilant of the old Durons for the newer processors.


RE: AMD Sempron by Caboose on 03-28-2005 at 07:28 AM

I've got a Sempron. No problems as far as I can see (Y)

But a RAM upgrade for your sister's comp might be in order... *-)


RE: AMD Sempron by Apatik on 03-28-2005 at 11:19 AM

the new sempron's are athlon64s without the 64bit features enabled

they're low cost processors, but i think it's quite valuable, depends on what you want to do with it..


RE: AMD Sempron by Jeronimo on 03-28-2005 at 12:36 PM

The Semprons are actually a mixture of rebadged Althon XP chips and indeed the Athlon 64 with the 64-bit part disabled. They are supposedly the budget range of chips as AMD move towards making the Athlon 64 range their mainstream line of CPU's.

Depending on what Sempron your sister has, you might be able to upgrade to a 64-bit CPU later on down the line, however from the sounds of it, I think the Sempron your sister has is actually one of the rebadged Athlon XP range.

Certainly I think a memory upgrade would be of benefit. The difference between 256Mb and 512Mb is quite noticable. The jump from 512Mb to 1Gb is less so. So another 256Mb of RAM would probably be the cheapest and most noticable upgrade.

Btw, a little know fact is that blade has an Athlon 64. I probably shouldn't have told you this as he likes to keep this fact a closely guarded secret. Cat's out of the bag now blade!! ;) (y)


RE: AMD Sempron by qune on 03-28-2005 at 01:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blade
AMD Sepron processors are intended for use in servers.
quote:

AMD Athlon MP processors are aimed for server usage... semprons are mostly and widely used in home and office computers... I myself have a Sempron 2800+ (2.0 GHz) clocked to 2.2 GHz (with no extra cooling) and 512 MB of PC3200 DDR ram... the system works incredibly stable and fast...

the downsides about sempron processors are the small L2 cache (256 KB) since athlon xp has 512... so is the FSB smaller (maximum among semprons is 333 MHz) as on the other hand athlon xp has 400 MHz max...

basically what made me chose sempron is that since AMD stopped manufacturing athlon xp processors some time ago (to concentrate on the semprons and athlon 64s), it was impossible for me to get it from anyhere in scandinavia...

and the last thing is of course the most affordable price...:)


RE: RE: AMD Sempron by bmtaylor on 03-28-2005 at 03:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by qune
...and the last thing is of course the most affordable price...:)


Indeed.  My comp right now is running on a Sempron 2300+ with 512MB PC2700 DDR-RAM.

spent just over £200 on an upgrade from an AMD K6/2 500MHz, and this pack included:-

AMD Sempron 2300+ retail boxed (cooler included)
Gigabyte 7NF-RZ motherboard
512MB (2 x 256MB) PC2700 DDR-RAM (purchased from a usenet group, boxed, brand new)
ATI Radeon 9250 256MB DDR-RAM AGP8x gfx card

Ok, It's still *slow* compared to most entry level stuff even today, but for the purposes that I need it for, it's more than enough.
RE: AMD Sempron by Joe on 03-29-2005 at 03:03 AM

dodgy Wal-Mart computer... it only had 192 Megs o RAM compared to the sdvertised 256... returning:D


RE: AMD Sempron by .blade// on 03-29-2005 at 03:09 AM

quote:
Originally posted by atownjoe
dodgy Wal-Mart computer... it only had 192 Megs o RAM compared to the sdvertised 256... returning:D


Check what it states it as in the system utility.
RE: AMD Sempron by Hank on 03-29-2005 at 03:23 AM

atleast need somewhere between 512 an 1Gig for PC's


RE: AMD Sempron by .blade// on 03-29-2005 at 03:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Demz
atleast need somewhere between 512 an 1Gig for PC's


I assume he means a laptop, most desktops have 512mb by default nowadays.


If I get that job @ Futureshop I'll buy discounted parts and get cheap ass RAM! :banana: :P
RE: AMD Sempron by Hank on 03-29-2005 at 03:31 AM

send me some if ya do blade :P


RE: AMD Sempron by .blade// on 03-29-2005 at 03:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Demz
send me some if ya do blade :P



Sure - I'll sell it at retail and make $$$ :refuck:
RE: AMD Sempron by Hank on 03-29-2005 at 04:14 AM

gee thanx an i went all that way to try sell ya XBox to :refuck:


RE: AMD Sempron by lizard.boy on 03-29-2005 at 04:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by atownjoe
dodgy Wal-Mart computer... it only had 192 Megs o RAM compared to the sdvertised 256... returning

i bet you dont have a video card. if it uses on board video the other 64 mb went into video.
RE: AMD Sempron by Joe on 03-29-2005 at 04:49 AM

makes sense... she's returning, this one, and if we have the same problem next time, i'll have her know what you said.


RE: AMD Sempron by lizard.boy on 03-29-2005 at 04:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by atownjoe
if we have the same problem next time
its not a problem its how it works.... :P
laptops usually run that way and so do low end computers. if you ever hear someone saying 64 mb video card or 256 mb video card its because it has that much ram dedicated to it purely for video. generally the higher the ram value the better the performance, but a higher ram on a lower end GPU (graphics processing unit) can still be worse than a lower ram value on a top end card (at the time of writing a high end card would be an ati radion 9800 or a nvidia 5900
RE: AMD Sempron by Joe on 03-29-2005 at 05:04 AM

quote:
Originally posted by lizard.boy
quote:
Originally posted by atownjoe
if we have the same problem next time
its not a problem its how it works.... :P
laptops usually run that way and so do low end computers. if you ever hear someone saying 64 mb video card or 256 mb video card its because it has that much ram dedicated to it purely for video. generally the higher the ram value the better the performance, but a higher ram on a lower end GPU (graphics processing unit) can still be worse than a lower ram value on a top end card (at the time of writing a high end card would be an ati radion 9800 or a nvidia 5900

problem = what we don't want... if she gets a higher rate computer... i.e. Dell Dimension, we'll have solved the problem