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Graphic Cards? by Jhrono on 04-07-2005 at 04:52 PM
Well i've been doing some projects to buy a new GFX card...and i have 2 doubts...I have a Nvidia Geforce4 Fx5200 256mb...and i aint satisfied..
1st doubt -
ATI vs Nvidia?Who's best?(Note i want the GFX card for a good game performance)
2nd doubt -
Is this one good or is it usefull to spend some more € and buy this one?
....
If you don't like the ones above, which one do you advise me to buy, with a 275 € limit...
Thanks..
RE: Graphic Cards? by user27089 on 04-07-2005 at 04:53 PM
ATi is the better of the two IMO, but they have a wide variety of amazing cheap cards...
The 9600 series have some great cards... depends on which one you go for though 
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RE: Graphic Cards? by .blade// on 04-07-2005 at 05:24 PM
I just noticed this thread 
I want to point out, the x700 pro is PCI-E so unless your PC is BRAND NEW (most of the boards with PCI-E are s939 (64-bit processor boards)) you can't use the x700.
Go with a 9600 PRO, a 9800 PRO or a 9800 XT.
RE: Graphic Cards? by Garndell on 04-07-2005 at 11:00 PM
Currently the 6600GT is the card to get and is within your price bracket. It also come sin both PCI-E & AGP forms so make sure you get the right one for your system.
RE: RE: Graphic Cards? by Jacko_all on 04-07-2005 at 11:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by blade
I just noticed this thread
I want to point out, the x700 pro is PCI-E so unless your PC is BRAND NEW (most of the boards with PCI-E are s939 (64-bit processor boards)) you can't use the x700.
Go with a 9600 PRO, a 9800 PRO or a 9800 XT.
I have a X800 PCI-E in a 939 gigabyte board with an Athalon 3500+processor with duel pipeline DDR 400mhz memory @ a split gig ram ( 2x512sticks capable of 4x1gig sticks totalRAM possible ). The frontside bus on the 64chip and the motherboard are 2000mhz and this thing screams! My gaming severely improved due to this improvement.
RE: Graphic Cards? by Plik on 04-07-2005 at 11:41 PM
Ive got a 9600 XT and it handles games like HL2 preatty easyly
RE: Graphic Cards? by Jhrono on 04-08-2005 at 07:08 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Madman
Ive got a 9600 XT and it handles games like HL2 preatty easyly
Mine handles it well but...man it's not the best do you get me?
RE: Graphic Cards? by Pyroteq on 04-08-2005 at 07:29 AM
I prefer ATI (all my pcs are using ATI)
my stolen one had an x800 this one has a 9800XT one has a 9250XT and one has somthing i cant remember.
Out of your two choices id go for the X700 but you do realise that it is PCI- EXPRESS make sure your computer can handle that.
RE: Graphic Cards? by Joa on 04-08-2005 at 07:31 AM
i say X700 my dad has it on one of his computers.. i'd say it's pretty good.. but that's compared to my 3d rage pro agp 2x 
he's got the radeon X800XT on one comp and nothing tops it. 
RE: Graphic Cards? by Garndell on 04-08-2005 at 07:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Joa
i say X700 my dad has it on one of his computers.. i'd say it's pretty good.. but that's compared to my 3d rage pro agp 2x
he's got the radeon X800XT on one comp and nothing tops it.
GeForce 6800 GT's in SLi configuration produces better results than a X850XT.
Here are a few comparisons between ATi & nVidia:
Comparison X700 Pro vs 6600GT (Anandtech)
6600 vs 9800, 5950, 6800, X800 etc (TomsHardware)
Bear in mind that a 6200 will play most games fine at 1024x768. At present AGP vs PCI-E is pretty much a dead heat. They both perform equally well with current software.
RE: Graphic Cards? by squall_leonhart69r on 04-08-2005 at 09:59 PM
The X700 is being bridged to agp using atis own bridge chip and will be available soon
the Geforce FX 5200 is not a geforce 4
the geforce 4 series includes as follows
from the MX (non pixel shader series)
NVIDIA_NV17.DEV_0170.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 460"
NVIDIA_NV17.DEV_0171.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440"
NVIDIA_NV17.DEV_0172.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420"
NVIDIA_NV17.DEV_0173.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440-SE"
NVIDIA_NV17.DEV_0178.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGL"
and
from the TI and quadro series (all pixel shader 1.1 capable)
NVIDIA_NV20.DEV_0203.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro DCC"
NVIDIA_NV25.DEV_0250.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600"
NVIDIA_NV25.DEV_0251.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400"
NVIDIA_NV25.DEV_0252.1 = "NVIDIA NV25"
NVIDIA_NV25.DEV_0253.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200"
NVIDIA_NV25.DEV_0258.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 900 XGL"
NVIDIA_NV25.DEV_0259.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 750 XGL"
NVIDIA_NV25.DEV_025B.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 700 XGL"
NVIDIA_NV28.DEV_0280.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800"
NVIDIA_NV28.DEV_0281.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X"
NVIDIA_NV28.DEV_0282.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE"
NVIDIA_NV28.DEV_0288.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 980 XGL"
NVIDIA_NV28.DEV_0289.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 780 XGL"
Geforce FX is actually equivalent to Geforce 5 but as the 3dfx team was helping create this card Geforce FX was used as the name
these cards include
ALL SM2.0 capable bar with weak shader cores due to only have a 4 pipelined shader system where as the ati cards have 8 pipes
NVIDIA_NV30.DEV_0301.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800 Ultra"
NVIDIA_NV30.DEV_0302.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800"
NVIDIA_NV30.DEV_0308.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 2000"
NVIDIA_NV30.DEV_0309.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 1000"
NVIDIA_NV30.DEV_030A.1 = "NVIDIA ICE FX 2000"
NVIDIA_NV31.DEV_0311.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 Ultra"
NVIDIA_NV31.DEV_0312.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600"
NVIDIA_NV31.DEV_0313.1 = "NVIDIA NV31"
NVIDIA_NV31.DEV_0314.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600XT"
NVIDIA_NV34.DEV_0320.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200"
NVIDIA_NV34.DEV_0321.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra"
NVIDIA_NV34.DEV_0322.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 "
NVIDIA_NV34.DEV_0323.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200LE"
NVIDIA_NV34.DEV_0326.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500"
NVIDIA_NV34.DEV_0327.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5100"
NVIDIA_NV34.DEV_032A.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro NVS 280 PCI"
NVIDIA_NV34.DEV_032B.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 500/FX 600"
NVIDIA_NV34.DEV_032F.1 = "NVIDIA NV34GL"
NVIDIA_NV35.DEV_0330.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 Ultra"
NVIDIA_NV35.DEV_0331.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900"
NVIDIA_NV35.DEV_0332.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900XT"
NVIDIA_NV35.DEV_0333.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5950 Ultra"
NVIDIA_NV35.DEV_0334.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900ZT"
NVIDIA_NV35.DEV_0338.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 3000"
NVIDIA_NV35.DEV_033F.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 700"
NVIDIA_NV36.DEV_0341.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra"
NVIDIA_NV36.DEV_0342.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700"
NVIDIA_NV36.DEV_0343.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700LE"
NVIDIA_NV36.DEV_0344.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700VE"
NVIDIA_NV36.DEV_0345.1 = "NVIDIA NV36"
NVIDIA_NV36.DEV_034E.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 1100"
NVIDIA_NV36.DEV_034F.1 = "NVIDIA NV36GL"
the latest Geforce line of which the Ultra and GT versions oft he 6800 have 16 pipes the nu version has 12, and any other cards after wards has only 8 bar the fact that the 6600GT only has a 128bit memory bus which slows things down
the 6800 series is the strongest series ranging from AU $1000 to its lowest costing card which is AU$400
a 6800NU is prefererable over a 6600GT as the 6800 has twice the memory bandwidth allowing for higher bandwidth and which allows the use of higher levels of antialiasing and anisotropic filtering (some 6800nus can also have the other 4 pipes unlocked to achieve 6800GT speeds)
NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_0040.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra"
NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_0041.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800"
NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_0042.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE"
NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_0043.1 = "NVIDIA NV40"
NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_0045.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT"
NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_0049.1 = "NVIDIA NV40GL"
NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_004E.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 4000"
NVIDIA_NV41.DEV_00C0.1 = "NVIDIA NV41"
NVIDIA_NV41.DEV_00C1.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 "
NVIDIA_NV41.DEV_00C2.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE "
NVIDIA_NV41.DEV_00CC.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX Go1400"
NVIDIA_NV41.DEV_00CD.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI"
NVIDIA_NV41.DEV_00CE.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 1400"
the 6600 and 6200 series use a 128bit memory bus
which slows them down somewhat
these cards have 8 shader pipelines
NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_0140.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT"
NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_0141.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6600"
NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_0142.1 = "NVIDIA NV43"
NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_0143.1 = "NVIDIA NV43 "
NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_0145.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6610 XL"
NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_014B.1 = "NVIDIA NV43 "
NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_014C.1 = "NVIDIA NV43GL"
NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_014D.1 = "NVIDIA NV43GL "
NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_014E.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 540"
NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_014F.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6200"
NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_0160.1 = "NVIDIA NV44"
uses Extended memory for textures instead of on card memory
NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_0161.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)"
no info yet exists
NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_0162.1 = "NVIDIA NV44 "
NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_0163.1 = "NVIDIA NV44 "
NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_0165.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro NVS 285"
NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_016E.1 = "NVIDIA NV44GL"
NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_0220.1 = "NVIDIA NV44 "
NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_0221.1 = "NVIDIA NV44 "
NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_0222.1 = "NVIDIA NV44 "
coming soon
NVIDIA_G70.DEV_0090.1 = "NVIDIA G70" ???
NVIDIA_G70.DEV_0091.1 = "NVIDIA G70 " ???
NVIDIA_G70.DEV_0092.1 = "NVIDIA G70 " ???
NVIDIA_G70.DEV_0093.1 = "NVIDIA G70 " ???
NVIDIA_G70.DEV_0094.1 = "NVIDIA G70 " ??/
NVIDIA_G70.DEV_009D.1 = "NVIDIA G70GL" ???
NVIDIA_G70.DEV_009E.1 = "NVIDIA G70GL " ???
NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0210.1 = "NVIDIA NV48"
NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0211.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 " 24 pipes
NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0212.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE " 32 pipes
NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0215.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT " 32pipes