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Messenger Lock help. by Matty Bix on 04-24-2005 at 07:54 AM
Hey, this is my first post on these forums - apologies if i sound like an idiot - so please stay with me 
I am not the only user of this computer so we have multiple instances of Messenger running.
I run MSN Messenger 7.0
other people run Windows Messenger.
Basically when i use messenger lock on 7.0 (my lock keys are ALT+2) it locks both Windows messenger and MSN Messenger.
I was just wondering is it possible to unistall Messenger Plus from windows messenger so it will no longer lock both.
Also is it possible to get 2 instances of MSN Messenger 7.0 running at once so you can have 2 people logged in at once - so we can use all the features - then of course uninstall Messenger Plus from one of them?
RE: Messenger Lock help. by Ahmad on 04-24-2005 at 07:58 AM
quote:This can be done using A-Patch -> http://apatch.tk/
Originally posted by Matty Bix
Also is it possible to get 2 instances of MSN Messenger 7.0 running at once so you can have 2 people logged in at once
Select Polygamy (Multi-MSN)
RE: Messenger Lock help. by Anubis on 04-24-2005 at 08:09 AM
You can have separate key combinations for separate MSN accounts, or just disable it for certain accounts.
You could get the people to log in on their account (on either MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger), and disable messenger lock on their account in the Plus preferences, or give them a separate combination. Main Messenger Window > Plus > Preferences > Privacy Protection > Messenger Lock > Disable it from there or give them a special combination and click Ok. This way if they're logged into Windows Messenger it won't lock.
This way if user A is signed into MSN Messenger and user B is signed into Windows Messenger and user A locks MSN Messenger with his combination, it won't effect User B's Messenger session at all, and vice versa if User B locks it.
Messenger Plus sets certain settings for each Messenger account, not for Windows Messenger or MSN Messenger, so you can't have it to do stuff for Windows Messenger and not for MSN Messenger.
Due to the way Plus hooks into MSN and Windows Messenger you can't get it to not work in one or the other. At some point Patchou (the creator of Messenger Plus) may scrap compatibility for Windows Messenger.
quote:
Originally posted by Matty Bix
Also is it possible to get 2 instances of MSN Messenger 7.0 running at once so you can have 2 people logged in at once - so we can use all the features - then of course uninstall Messenger Plus from one of them?
Another way, this one is more legal than A-Patch, but both will work. You can use the polygamy feature from StuffPlug-NG. It also has many more features that you may like
RE: Messenger Lock help. by Ahmad on 04-24-2005 at 08:19 AM
quote:they're both as "illegal" as each other, but really the only illegal thing is using them
Originally posted by Anubis
this one is more legal than A-Patch
RE: Messenger Lock help. by Anubis on 04-24-2005 at 08:21 AM
quote:StuffPlug-NG just hooks into MSN Messenger, which akaik, is legal. However patching executables that are copyrighted aren't legal.
Originally posted by Ahmad
they're both as "illegal" as each other, but really the only illegal thing is using them
RE: Messenger Lock help. by Ahmad on 04-24-2005 at 08:25 AM
quote:Yes, but it also patches the exe in memory for those kinds of features (correct me if i'm wrong), which is also illegal.
Originally posted by Anubis
quote:StuffPlug-NG just hooks into MSN Messenger, which akaik, is legal. However patching executables that are copyrighted aren't legal.
Originally posted by Ahmad
they're both as "illegal" as each other, but really the only illegal thing is using them
RE: Messenger Lock help. by Matty Bix on 04-24-2005 at 08:28 AM
Thankyou for your help everyone - was muchly appreciated.
I was just wondering one last thing - when clicking on URL's my default browser is Internet Explorer, the browser i use though is FireFox - is there a way possible to click on links to bring it up in firefox instead (just for my account though)
It isn't as simple as changing FF to default, as other people use the PC
RE: Messenger Lock help. by Anubis on 04-24-2005 at 08:34 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ahmad
Yes, but it also patches the exe in memory for those kinds of features (correct me if i'm wrong), which is also illegal.
Indeed it does patch the .exe in the memory (as does JrznLoader).
However this process of Soft-patching is legal, where as patching the main executable is not legal.
It does seem a little dodgy, after all the result is virtually the same. However the law is probably there because soft-patching is easier to undo, and it isn't actually altering the main product itself, just how it works.
quote:Yes. StuffPlug-NG has an option to allow you to open links in your default browser, just configure it in your account only.
Originally posted by Matty Bix
I was just wondering one last thing - when clicking on URL's my default browser is Internet Explorer, the browser i use though is FireFox - is there a way possible to click on links to bring it up in firefox instead
RE: Messenger Lock help. by Matty Bix on 04-24-2005 at 08:38 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ahmad
You could get the people to log in on their account (on either MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger), and disable messenger lock on their account in the Plus preferences, or give them a separate combination. Main Messenger Window > Plus > Preferences > Privacy Protection > Messenger Lock > Disable it from there or give them a special combination and click Ok. This way if they're logged into Windows Messenger it won't lock.
This way did not seem to work - first i disabled it in Windows messenger - it also disabled in MSN - changed the combinations - changed both!
RE: Messenger Lock help. by Anubis on 04-24-2005 at 08:44 AM
quote:As I said before, it won't change for eihter MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger. It will change only for each Messenger account for each person.
Originally posted by Matty Bix
This way did not seem to work - first i disabled it in Windows messenger - it also disabled in MSN - changed the combinations - changed both!
RE: Messenger Lock help. by Matty Bix on 04-24-2005 at 08:51 AM
Yeh, i meant i did it in each account - i finally got it working-
btw what i meant with firefox was:
When i click on links they open in my default browser - Internet Explorer
Can i get them to open in firefox without making Firefox my default browser
RE: Messenger Lock help. by Anubis on 04-24-2005 at 08:58 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Matty Bix
Can i get them to open in firefox without making Firefox my default browser
Akaik, there is no plugin that would do it without FireFox being made your default browser. However there is a work around only if you use Windows XP.
In Windows XP you can make a window accounts for each user of your computer.
In your account use this tool to make FireFox the default browser in your account only. Then set StuffPlug-NG to open all links in your default browser, only on your windows account and MSN account.
Also if you set up accounts, you can have messenger running and associated to each account, it's a lot cleaner if a lot of people are on MSN.
Please note this will only work if you have Windows XP
RE: Messenger Lock help. by Matty Bix on 04-24-2005 at 10:18 AM
Hrmm i seem to have got the lock thing working, but when shutting Windows Messenger down and opening back up - it reverted to locking both.
I change the stuff on BOTH accounts - but it did not work
RE: Messenger Lock help. by Anubis on 04-24-2005 at 03:06 PM
Matty Bix, since use Windows XP, I suggest you set up accounts up for each user on your computer.
This way everyone who wants to can have MSN Messenger settings, and Plus totally isolated to their own Windows account (it is kind of like having your own computer in a computer).
You won't need loads versions of MSN Messenger running at once for each person on the same screen, you can have it cleanly set for one in each account. Go to Start > Control Panel > User accounts and set an account up for each user.
This way is a lot cleaner and you can have your own locking messenger settings that will for sure, only lock in your MSN Messenger in only your windows account. With the tool I showed you before you can set your own default browser, so that StuffPlug-NG will only open the links you click on in your default browser.
I understand that what I said may be unclear if you are new to setting up windows accounts, if you are unsure just ask and I will be personally happy, as will many other members here, to help you.