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some questions for a beginner at PLUS by akhmu on 05-02-2005 at 02:03 PM

Hello,
I recently installed Messenger Plus and love your stuff..but since I am very new I have couple of questions and would aprreciate your reply:

- When I right click on a name in my messenger list and go to PLus and check on the ' contact info" ..it shows me the last time seen online and last time on chat..I am not sure if this info is for that person that has been online and chat or is this my info being with this person? for example:
I checked this persons contact info and it showed me that this person was seen online 2 days and 59 minutes ago..Yesterday I deleted this contact and added again and now the contact info was showing just 20 minutes being seen online..I am pretty sure that this person is not online due to the time difference..so is this then my info checking on this person and showing the time? I hope I was a bit clear? Is there anyway that this information can be done in the way of dates and not days? Like person online on April 30, 8.55 GMT or something like that?

- I have been told that there is a way to find out who has opened my window in MSN withour writing me a message..but I can not find this option ..What do I have to do?

More questions will probably follow up when I get more into PLUS ..but meanwhile pls help on this.

THanks   


RE: some questions for a beginner at PLUS by John Anderton on 05-02-2005 at 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by akhmu
When I right click on a name in my messenger list and go to PLus and check on the ' contact info" ..it shows me the last time seen online and last time on chat..I am not sure if this info is for that person that has been online and chat or is this my info being with this person? for example:
Contact info is for the last time both of u were online and to my knowledege works cause some info is stored when he/she (yr contact) comes online :)


quote:
Originally posted by akhmu
- I have been told that there is a way to find out who has opened my window in MSN withour writing me a message..but I can not find this option ..What do I have to do?
Sorry i didnt get that one clearly .... could u explain a bit more :)
RE: some questions for a beginner at PLUS by absorbation on 05-02-2005 at 02:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by akhmu
- I have been told that there is a way to find out who has opened my window in MSN withour writing me a message..but I can not find this option ..What do I have to do?

This no longer works as the new msn messenger works in a different way sorry :(
RE: some questions for a beginner at PLUS by user27089 on 05-02-2005 at 02:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by akhmu
- When I right click on a name in my messenger list and go to PLus and check on the ' contact info" ..it shows me the last time seen online and last time on chat..I am not sure if this info is for that person that has been online and chat or is this my info being with this person? for example:
I checked this persons contact info and it showed me that this person was seen online 2 days and 59 minutes ago..Yesterday I deleted this contact and added again and now the contact info was showing just 20 minutes being seen online..I am pretty sure that this person is not online due to the time difference..so is this then my info checking on this person and showing the time? I hope I was a bit clear? Is there anyway that this information can be done in the way of dates and not days? Like person online on April 30, 8.55 GMT or something like that?

If I think I know what you mean, it's the time that this contact has been online and you have been online at the same time, not how long he has been on completely...
RE: some questions for a beginner at PLUS by akhmu on 05-02-2005 at 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by John Anderton
quote:

Originally posted by akhmu
When I right click on a name in my messenger list and go to PLus and check on the ' contact info" ..it shows me the last time seen online and last time on chat..I am not sure if this info is for that person that has been online and chat or is this my info being with this person? for example:



Contact info is for the last time both of u were online and to my knowledege works cause some info is stored when he/she (yr contact) comes online

So if I understand correctly , you mean that this person was online at that time even if not being in chat with me, correct? I think this is not correct, as I deleted this person yesterday and when added again ..it was showing that it was again about 20 minutes on line and chat.. and I am sure that this is not correct as this person was in a different time frame and for sure sleeping at that time..so I am very confused what this 'Contact Info" is about whom?   

quote:
Originally posted by Absorbation
quote:
Originally posted by akhmu
- I have been told that there is a way to find out who has opened my window in MSN withour writing me a message..but I can not find this option ..What do I have to do?

This no longer works as the new msn messenger works in a different way sorry :(


_ really? how about the stuff plug in? msn geeks is saying that this still does work..but I am not sure which stuff plug in to install?
Also is there anyway to see who has blocked me on the list? Yep the same old question :-)
RE: some questions for a beginner at PLUS by John Anderton on 05-02-2005 at 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by akhmu


So if I understand correctly , you mean that this person was online at that time even if not being in chat with me, correct? I think this is not correct, as I deleted this person yesterday and when added again ..it was showing that it was again about 20 minutes on line and chat.. and I am sure that this is not correct as this person was in a different time frame and for sure sleeping at that time..so I am very confused what this 'Contact Info" is about whom? 

U deleteing a contact only means he aint on ur list and then he cant talk with u as he aint on ur list :) But u can still do that cause u r on his list. U can chat with him by rt clicking the icon of msn messenger in the system tray and clicking send msg. Then click the 'other' tab. Type his email addy and u can chat :D
U deleted him from ur list but the earlier stats of urs with him still remain so hence u still see that he was online for that much time :)

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Also is there anyway to see who has blocked me on the list? Yep the same old question
Block checkers dont work usually :) But u can goto Messenger Mad and try their block checker. It tells u if the person is online ... if it says that he/she is and yet u cant see em on ur list so u have been blocked :P
I dunno if they do work and how well they do. There is a post by cookie about it (someone pm me the link ... ill put it here if i dont get it :))
But u can give it a try :)
Btw ... plz dont make double posts and Read Forum Rules :D
RE: some questions for a beginner at PLUS by mwe99 on 05-02-2005 at 02:40 PM

you can see the contact's name or email, the last time they were online, the last time you had a chat with them, if they have Plus! installed

You may want to check out http://www.msgplus.net/help_faq.php
For some Frequently Asked Questions... additionally please visit
http://www.msgplus.net/features_all.php


RE: some questions for a beginner at PLUS by user27089 on 05-02-2005 at 02:40 PM

Well these "msn geeks" that you're talking about are wrong, the msn messenger servers connect you to people when you're downloading their display pictures and things.

The open-window Notifier tells you when somebody opens a connection with you, it detects any connections with another MSN user, so it would detect you downloading their display picture. Therefore, it no longer works...

Stuffplug is an amazing plugin for messenger plus...

Block checkers no longer work anymore...


RE: some questions for a beginner at PLUS by Anubis on 05-02-2005 at 03:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by akhmu

Also is there anyway to see who has blocked me on the list? Yep the same old question
If you wish to find out exactly why they don't work, you can read why Block checkers DO NOT work. By clicking here.
RE: some questions for a beginner at PLUS by akhmu on 05-03-2005 at 06:48 PM

Contact info..** sorry still more questions***

I am kind of confused and need some detailed explanation on Messenger Plus features..I have tried to read the whole tuturial as well FAQ and still not able to find a clear explanation..pls helppppppppppp

1- when I right click on a contact on my list and go messenger plus/ contact info it shows me the list time seen online time and last time on chat..usually this 2 info are the same..whose info is that? mine checking on this person or this person really being online? I have not been with this person in a chat but it still shows that this person was on chat..so not sure what this info is about..any more detailed info?

2- When in the msn messenger tool bar I go to contact list clean..the same contact is showing up..I deleted this contact and readded..and now in the contact clean list the last being online and chat is unknown..but still in the contact info it shows that he was online and on chat let's say 1 day ago, why?

3- How am I able to reset this info? it is a bit hard to calculate days back and was wondering if there is anyway to change this to date like April 03..5.00am Pacific time instead of 2 days ago?

Sorry for my many questions but the main reason I installed the Messenger Plus is because of this option and I am just not understanding it correctly..

Thanks for your help       


RE: some questions for a beginner at PLUS by mwe99 on 05-03-2005 at 06:54 PM

Asking questions is perfectly alright :)

1 - This is the time when you and the contact were last online. Any activity with the contact will be logged as a chat

2 - As the person has been on your contact list before the log for the time he was last on was recorded.

3 - You can't reset it it's fixed.


RE: some questions for a beginner at PLUS by akhmu on 05-04-2005 at 07:19 PM

Thank you for your explanation. I think now I know what those infos mean on the features.

How accurate are those infos by the way?
Promise ...it will be my last question for a while:-)


RE: some questions for a beginner at PLUS by mwe99 on 05-04-2005 at 07:26 PM

They are extremly accurate as the last time youre contact were both on it is recorded. Feel free to ask any questions you like :) we dont bite..... much (A)


RE: some questions for a beginner at PLUS by akhmu on 05-05-2005 at 01:32 AM

Ok since you gave me the green light for more questions and don't bite ..just checked my contacts and their logs..

My contact info and contact clean list on one person that I chatted with today from my home pc with plus installed shows ..last online /last chat 2 days ago..so I think this is not really accurate, shouldn't this say for example 8 hrs ago? or am I just not understanding it???

Also I use Web messenger at work and had some chats with my other contacts and the contact info and etc does not show any recent chat as well..I believe it is just because I am using the web messenger , right?
 
Thanks


RE: some questions for a beginner at PLUS by Menthix on 05-05-2005 at 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by akhmu
contact info and contact clean list on one person that I chatted with today from my home pc with plus installed shows ..last online /last chat 2 days ago..
The "Contact List Clean-up" window only shows the amount of days because there isn't that much space in that window to show it all. But the "Contact Information" window (right-click on a name > choose Messenger Plus! Extras > Contact Information) will always show the accurate time up to the minutes.

quote:
Originally posted by akhmu
I believe it is just because I am using the web messenger , right?
Indeed. Messenger Plus! can only see contact coming online and chats when you are signed in to the Messenger where you installed Plus! on.

BTW: "Last Chat" is when you last opened a conversation window with this person. So Plus! will still see it as a conversation when you open a chat window and don't say anything.