beware this is microsofts own spin on the matter

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html

ive always known that xbox is better and i belive without these claims that xbox 360 will be better than ps3 but this backs me up

I wouldn't call 360 better as Sony has a whole year before they release the final system. They could make theirs alot stronger by then.

It seems they fail to actually use the figures for overall system performance, which are:
Xbox 360 - 1 TFLOP
PS3 - 2 TFLOPS

Xbox is better than PS2 because it's two years newer.
As for the Xbox 360's better all-round CPU, that is the problem: games consolse do FP more than anything else (graphics, sound, physics), so a more specialised solution (Cell) will be more suited.

Cell = Designed for Supercomputers
XBOX 360 CPU = Designed for the Macintosh

Cell = 8 Threads?
XBOX 360 CPU = 6 Threads

As things stand the Cell CPU is by far a more capable Gaming System chip.

I myself wil be buying a XBOX 360 as and when Halo3 arrives and maybe one or two other games but my main machine will be a PS3.  I like being able to play my PS1 games on the PS2 & i'll continue liking playing PS1 & 2 games on the PS3.

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Originally posted by Garndell

I myself wil be buying a XBOX 360 as and when Halo3 arrives and maybe one or two other games but my main machine will be a PS3.  I like being able to play my PS1 games on the PS2 & i'll continue liking playing PS1 & 2 games on the PS3.

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I doubt XBox 360 will have better graphics: the RSX GPU in PS3 is more powerful than the entire XBox 360. However, most home users won't nitoce the difference, except on ultra-large HDTVs. And how many people have got even small HDTVs?

I believe, soon, the level of graphics performance will become less important, and what people do with it more important (which is kinda already true, but not by much).
Thing is, no matter how good the performance is, if the graphics engine in the game isn't up to the job, it won't help sell consoles.

yeah

oh and raceprouk your wrong about the Floating point

Most rendering and graphics are Fixed Point

the only thing that actually uses floating points, in games is the AI, and if using SM3.0 the trees and foliage in a few games

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Originally posted by squall_leonhart69r

the only thing that actually uses floating points, in games is the AI, and if using SM3.0 the trees and foliage in a few games

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aye.. but you forget one thing

these use the GPU to do, not the Cell processor

these require Floating points on the gpu within the Pixel Pipeline

what MS is saying is that Floating points on the Cell processor are lacking

so really in reality, the PS3 will still be a good console. as they aren't taking the RSX into consideration

Note however, that as powerful as Cell may be, PowerPC has been around for ages, developers are used to it, and so on. Xbox 360 will be, in my opinion, waaay easier for devs to program.

Also, with all the new hardware on the PS3, Cell, its graphics, a million connections, its also going to be more expensive than 360.

As always, its not the hardware thats kind - its the content. And I'm betting that the 360 content will be better than that of the PS3.

local gameshop dude sez it'll retail at $1700 australian

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Originally posted by Ben
Note however, that as powerful as Cell may be, PowerPC has been around for ages

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Originally posted by squall_leonhart69r
local gameshop dude sez it'll retail at $1700 australian

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eh Race

add up the cost of the RSX processor and the Cell chip

if the rsx is based off the G70GL then it'll be around that price

heck the 6800s are over 1000 here

* RaceProUK looks up the GBP to AU$ conversion rate...
GBP1 = AU$2.5? I see why you say $1700 now.
Still, £700 is a lot of money. AU$1000 sounds about right for a top-of-the-line GeForce (over £400), but I doubt a console will retail for around £700. They tend to retauil for £300 on release here in the UK.

Mind you, there's only one place to get the actual retail price: Sony Computer Entertainment.

The playstation 3 will be too much money...

Either way, I hate sony, always will, XBOX will always be my choice.

the Xbox was 1000 when it first released here

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hate sony, always will

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coz hes british.. oh wait can't say that coz the british like playstations

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Any reason why?

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xbox had issues initally as well

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Originally posted by squall_leonhart69r
xbox had issues initally as well

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no

there was issues with some of the harddisks and onboard IDE controllers

there was also a problem with the dvd drive motor burning out

and there was a high risk of the custom Geforce 3 burning out

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eh Race

add up the cost of the RSX processor and the Cell chip

if the rsx is based off the G70GL then it'll be around that price

heck the 6800s are over 1000 here

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aye you have a point there, but its not just Sony thats after a profit here, and nvidia don't take to loss leader sales well

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Originally posted by squall_leonhart69r
heck the 6800s are over 1000 here

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Originally posted by squall_leonhart69r
local gameshop dude sez it'll retail at $1700 australian

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Originally posted by Chris Boulton
$770 for a 6800GT, Gainward too and that is the AGP version!

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