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What a great program and crappy by Pi$$ed off on 05-25-2005 at 05:24 PM

way to fund it. I would have been happy to pay for this but after missing the adware box on start and then not even being able to remove it with PestPatrol paid support $50 !!!!  I dont think so.

Sure a harmless search bar is no biggie but once you allow that there is no control. Patchou, this sucks.  Think of a better way.

I just reformatted and Plus is NOT going back on.

Rich


RE: What a great program and crappy by lopardo on 05-25-2005 at 05:28 PM

Read How to uninstall ad-ware/sponsor.


RE: What a great program and crappy by Veggie on 05-25-2005 at 05:31 PM

You should of posted on here asking how to uninstall the sponser there was no need to reformat.

Removing Sponsor is how you remove it.

Also what have you learned? read what your installing (y)

edit: damn lopardo beat me...


RE: What a great program and crappy by absorbation on 05-25-2005 at 05:46 PM

Read the guide in my sig noob, it's all you need saves you money and frmotaing your pc. And btw that serach bar is optional (meaning you don't have to have it if you did not want to read the installer)


RE: What a great program and crappy by Pi$$ed off on 05-25-2005 at 05:51 PM

I went through the remove sponsor steps as listed. But it did not remove the other stuff that came along after the door was opened.

The add-remove programs worked fine for the search bar, etc but the others would not come off.

And yes, I am positive it started with the install of the plus program. The problem is once you accept the search stuff that is bundled with the software (which I totally missed) you are wide open to the doings of the adware people and it is out of the hands of Patchou.

Thanks for the responses. Like I said its a great program, but dont like (my opinion) the method used to fund it.

Rich


RE: What a great program and crappy by absorbation on 05-25-2005 at 05:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Pi$$ed off
I went through the remove sponsor steps as listed. But it did not remove the other stuff that came along after the door was opened.

The add-remove programs worked fine for the search bar, etc but the others would not come off.

And yes, I am positive it started with the install of the plus program. The problem is once you accept the search stuff that is bundled with the software (which I totally missed) you are wide open to the doings of the adware people and it is out of the hands of Patchou.

Thanks for the responses. Like I said its a great program, but dont like (my opinion) the method used to fund it.

Rich

Well many people don't like the funding way and you should ask the forum for help removing it. I'm glad you said adware and not spyware but i trust c2media, no damage on my computer was caused :)
RE: What a great program and crappy by RaceProUK on 05-25-2005 at 05:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Pi$$ed off
you are wide open to the doings of the adware people
No you're not.
Any adware/stuff that appeared around the same time will have arrived no matter what i.e. it came through the inherent insecurity in Windows and IE.
RE: What a great program and crappy by rctempire on 05-25-2005 at 10:15 PM

First off, yes it was your fault as the user to install the software, so you should read the installers of every program first!

But i would have you know that ad-aware and spybot (and now Microsofts Antispyware) and all PROPER anti-spyware tools all recieve prositives of the sponsor program. Now, at work we use 30+ programs to remove spyware, and i can tell you it takes 4 to remove this totaly.

Adaware
Spybot - Search and Destroy
Xcleaner(free edition) and
Microsofts AntiSpyware.

All these tools detects the sponsor program and also remove it, without any problems to your computer, as suggested in that video. Which is partially untrue.


RE: What a great program and crappy by RaceProUK on 05-25-2005 at 11:26 PM

It doesn't take 4, it takes 1: the Plus uninstaller :P:P:P


RE: What a great program and crappy by Pi$$ed off on 05-26-2005 at 01:32 PM

Well it appears that everyone has had different results. I remember installing this on my daughters computer and removing the sponsor stuff afterwards (yea sometimes I do the next next next thing in a hurry during install...) and it took it off fine.

Whatever came with it this time did NOT remove with the plus uninstall program. I had microsoft spyware beta running at the time and probably *again* made the mistake of allowing something I shouldn't during the install. I bought and installed Pest Patrol and it removed it but would come right back.  3 hours on the phone with PestPatrol and we still could not shake it.

I have NO DOUBT, the intentions of Patchou are nothing but the best and I have no doubt there is nothing that compares to messenger plus. BUT, I think we are foolish if we try to make concrete statements about what the adware does or doesnt do on any given day. Adware is a variable and when we allow any instance of it, we have no idea what their tactics are.  Kinda like allowing a thief you kinda trust into your house. Might not be him, but the buddies he brings along.


RE: What a great program and crappy by absorbation on 05-26-2005 at 03:14 PM

Ok the uninstaller can become currupt when using scanners then it becomes hard. I have had the sponser on my pc many times so i could make the video plus it is optional :P


RE: What a great program and crappy by RaceProUK on 05-26-2005 at 05:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Pi$$ed off
Adware is a variable and when we allow any instance of it, we have no idea what their tactics are.
Again, I feel I have to correct you: the sponsor program doesn't install anything at all. As adware goes, it's very lightweight.
RE: RE: What a great program and crappy by Veggie on 05-26-2005 at 07:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Pi$$ed off
(yea sometimes I do the next next next thing in a hurry during install...)
Yeah thats a bad idea (n) if you look at what your installing you will save yourself alot of problems in the future.

quote:
Originally posted by Absorbation
Ok the uninstaller can become currupt when using scanners then it becomes hard. I have had the sponser on my pc many times so i could make the video plus it is optional :P

to be more accurate i belive it doesn't get corrupted certian files are removed so the uninstaller cannot function properly
RE: What a great program and crappy by RaceProUK on 05-26-2005 at 07:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Veggie
to be more accurate i belive it doesn't get corrupted certian files are removed so the uninstaller cannot function properly
More or less the same tbh :/
RE: What a great program and crappy by Veggie on 05-26-2005 at 08:01 PM

yeah after i posted, realised how pedantic that was :P


RE: RE: What a great program and crappy by CookieRevised on 05-26-2005 at 08:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Pi$$ed off
I think we are foolish if we try to make concrete statements about what the adware does or doesnt do on any given day. Adware is a variable and when we allow any instance of it, we have no idea what their tactics are.  Kinda like allowing a thief you kinda trust into your house. Might not be him, but the buddies he brings along.
The adware bundled with Messenger Plus! isn't such a great variable as you seem to think (which is true in other cases, but not for msgplus). The package added when the sponsor is installed is a serious stripped down version; it is the least aggresive of all the adwares that C2Media has to offer (you can even check their list of different adware types on their site lop.com). To explain it with your anology: It is like allowing a thief you kinda trust into your house, but he can only go to 1 room and can't bring any buddies...

PS: the analogy of "thief" isn't correct though, nothing is stolen from you. And certainly not personal stuff. A "door to door salesman" would be more appropiate...