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A-Patch Plugin by Ezra on 05-30-2005 at 05:28 PM
I would really like to see this for several reasons...
1. A-Patch is a Hard-Patch and Hard-Patches are illegal, but a Soft-Patch is not. So if you make A-Patch a plugin, It would be 100% legal 
2. Did you ever remove a option, and you reget it later, so you have to install msn again, and patch it again, but you forget what options you used and you have to do it a couple of times just to remove one thing?
With a Soft-Patch you could remove it, restart messenger and voila, it's done...
3. Some people are really afraid of patches they think that if they mess something up, they wrecked the computer, with a Soft-Patch, you can undo things with the click of a button...
I'm sure you are thinking this is hard to do, sure. But I'm positive that if Ahmz055 works together with some of the Plugin Developers here, that you can make it work.
RE: A-Patch Plugin by Millenium_edition on 05-30-2005 at 05:33 PM
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=44...d=461180#pid461180
this is the closest you'll get to using a-patch on a soft way.
but to be honest, i don't see no real need in it.
1. being illegal won't stop you from using it.
2. how many times would you have to do that? once.
3. that's not an excuse to not use a patch 
any good definition of a patch tells you it doesn't kill your pc.
quote:he did it alone in his loader (i think, no credits mentioned in the thread), so why would it be that hard?
Originally posted by Ezra
I'm sure you are thinking this is hard to do, sure. But I'm positive that if Ahmz055 works together with some of the Plugin Developers here, that you can make it work.
RE: A-Patch Plugin by absorbation on 05-30-2005 at 06:18 PM
I like the idea of changing your settings
RE: A-Patch Plugin by linx05 on 05-31-2005 at 06:06 AM
You don't have to reinstall MSNM. Just restore the back up. Close down MSNM, choose restore backup in A-Patch and it will do it for you. Exactly the same way you described without the A-Patch bit.
I think he might be adding a feature that will remember your settings. He seemed to really like it when I put it forward.
RE: A-Patch Plugin by uberdosis on 05-31-2005 at 09:24 AM
Stupid idea imo.
RE: A-Patch Plugin by linx05 on 05-31-2005 at 09:40 AM
quote:That's why you have a -17 rep
Originally posted by uberdosis
Stupid idea imo.
All jokes aside, I think it would be a pretty good idea! Good luck to Ahmad if he chooses to make this.
RE: A-Patch Plugin by CookieRevised on 05-31-2005 at 10:12 AM
quote:Not exactly. Hard-patches are indeed mostly illegal, but so are soft-patches. Only the are less illegal... If illegal would be black and legal white, then soft-patches are grey
Originally posted by Ezra
1. A-Patch is a Hard-Patch and Hard-Patches are illegal, but a Soft-Patch is not. So if you make A-Patch a plugin, It would be 100% legal
quote:You don't need nessecairly a soft-patch for it though. A well programmed hard-patch can do it just as well.
Originally posted by Ezra
2. Did you ever remove a option, and you reget it later, so you have to install msn again, and patch it again, but you forget what options you used and you have to do it a couple of times just to remove one thing? With a Soft-Patch you could remove it, restart messenger and voila, it's done...
Iether way, when patching resources, and that is mostly what A-patch does, you can't simple turn it on/off "on-the-fly" like some preferences in a program. Resources need to be changed before they are loaded by the program. After that you can change it all you want it wont make a difference. In other words, most things A-Patch (and other patches like that) does can't be turned on/off without restarting MSN Messenger...
And that is exactly what Ahmad's loader does. It _is_ a soft-patch, but to change something you need to restart MSN Messenger again of course, it can't be done "on-the-fly".
quote:It's very easy to do actually (the loader that is)
Originally posted by Ezra
I'm sure you are thinking this is hard to do, sure. But I'm positive that if Ahmz055 works together with some of the Plugin Developers here, that you can make it work.
To make it into a plugin and turn options on/off on the fly is impossible because of the above reasons.