is there going to be a Messenger Plus! made available for windows xp x64?

i guess its mostly just a matter of recompiling the stuff to 64bits...



if no beta tester are available for that, i would make a statement that i would be happy to help testing a 64bits messenger plus!

I'm sure that when Patchou gets a 64-bit PC with 64-bit Windows, he'll make 64-bit Plus!. Until then, we're stuck with a mere 32 bits I'm afraid.

hmm, that wont be needed... I guess , i mean, all you need is stuff like :
Microsoft Platform SDK for Windows Server 2003 SP1 and
microsof Visual Studion 2005 (the compiler must be able to compile 64bits instructions), he wont need a 64 bits cpu.. why?? well he just compilese it as 64bits, and sends it out to a few beta testers first like 5 -10, if it works, he can get some more people test it out, and voila messenger plus! 64bits is born


heck 32bits hardware can compile it as far as i could read it

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So all Patchou needs is the (currently Beta) VS.NET 2005.

well reading some things through i guess all patchou really needs is

Microsoft Visual C/C++ compiler + the /Wp64 switch

making sure all the stuff is corrected (pointers to int's and stuff like that, i think the source would be best first checked by AMD's "CodeAnalyst2.34.4" (dont know if there is/will be a intel counterpart, yet i dont think that will mind, because the intel implementation is almost indentical to AMD's version of AMD64...)

why check it out? well that way it wll run better on win xp x64..

and if you manage to make the code compatible with both win32 AND win64, the benefit will be that you would only be needing to support 1 source code, and that source will need to be compiled 2x 1x win32 1x win64 (x64)

I was about to ask 'don't 32-bit apps work on 64-bit machines', but then remembered Plus does some fancy memory shnitz. That kinda makes it limited to 32-bit.

And why I think Patchou may need a 64-bit machine to test with.

lol... if it was just a matter of "recompile with the 64bits option enabled", that would already have been done. Messenger Plus! needs to manipulates several kinds of pointers which requires the code itself to be modified to be 64bits compatible. This will be done when Windows 64bits will be in its final stage and when I'll have a 64bits CPU (there's no way I'll buy an AMD ).

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Originally posted by Patchou
lol... if it was just a matter of "recompile with the 64bits option enabled", that would already have been done. Messenger Plus! needs to manipulates several kinds of pointers which requires the code itself to be modified to be 64bits compatible. This will be done when Windows 64bits will be in its final stage and when I'll have a 64bits CPU (there's no way I'll buy an AMD ).

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Originally posted by Patchou
lol... if it was just a matter of "recompile with the 64bits option enabled", that would already have been done. Messenger Plus! needs to manipulates several kinds of pointers which requires the code itself to be modified to be 64bits compatible. This will be done when Windows 64bits will be in its final stage and when I'll have a 64bits CPU (there's no way I'll buy an AMD ).

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Originally posted by wtbw
This is very different from the version of Windows that Itanium ran on. Even though it is 64-bit, it's a totally different architecture

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yup and install is now NOT only giving 64bits instruction capabilities to their PENTIUM cpu's the latest Celeron D, processors will also contain the 64bits instruction capabilites

Ar.. damn Intel for releasing this 64bits thingy... ok then, I promise I'll look into it in a couple of months. The problem is that for having 64bits enabled on my computer, I need to change at least the CPU and the motherboard and reinstall Windows.

I'll try to find a 64bits computer that I can borrow for a week or two, if you know anybody in my area, let me know .

i do believe that blade ran msgplus on 64bit fine

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Originally posted by Stigmata
i do believe that blade ran msgplus on 64bit fine

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I got a 64bit processor but all my software is 32bit :/

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Originally posted by Dempsey

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Originally posted by Stigmata
i do believe that blade ran msgplus on 64bit fine

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yea but it prob ran in 32 bit mode or whatever AFAIK 64bit CPUs can run 32 bit apps

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well yeah it does run, yet if you see my list of win32 program i thing runnig all things in 64bits mode will be much better, and heck if the main code is atm compatible, it migt doesnt need much changes to be comatible with ms longhorn, cuz twith that one a new msn will be out deffenatly...

Making Plus! 64bits compatible won't be very difficult, it's just that I can't do it if I can't test it myself. Also, note that when this wll be done, the code will be 64bits compatible but will still be distributed in 32bits binaries. For a program like Plus!, compiling everything in 64bits wouldn't be much of an advantage and you wouldn't notice any difference in speed anyway.

Depends how many 64-bit ops you're doing

Exactly... the only stuff that's managed as 64bits is the sound IDs and the way they are calculated wouldn't benefit from a big 64bits integer, so, no gain .

ah, ok, 1 "last" questin, will source be available?, cuz i could perhaps compile it in 64bits (wenn the sourc eis 64bits compatible..) & ii just downloaded the emule source, and will try to compile it in 64bits... will see what that program will do in 64bits

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Originally posted by dutch2005
ah, ok, 1 "last" questin, will source be available?

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Hi,

Messenger Plus! is better kept closed source, then you wont get loads of other n00bie w00bie's trying to edit little stuff and re-releasing it under their name.


Kind Regards,
XM4ST3RX

well it was not intended as flaim orso, i just though heck things liek emule are also op-source, if you want 64bits you just have to re-compile it as 64bits....

Hi,

we did not take it as a flame, sorry if i replied as if i sounded if i was replying to a flame, im sure Dempsey didnt either

Kind Regards,
XM4ST3RX

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Originally posted by XM4ST3RX
Hi,

we did not take it as a flame, sorry if i replied as if i sounded if i was replying to a flame, im sure Dempsey didnt either

Kind Regards,
XM4ST3RX

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As Dempsey said, sorry, no source code distribution .

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Originally posted by Patchou
(there's no way I'll buy an AMD ).

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lol... yeah yeah, I know the song

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Originally posted by Patchou
lol... yeah yeah, I know the song

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hmm, well i just like underdogs , and heck, if we all knew that amd is better yet we all buy intel, heck it will not be good for inovation ,


and yup, 32bits edition fo messenger plus! WORKS on windows xp x64, only thing is that you'll see a *32 behind msgplus.exe (reffering to it that its 32bits code being run though WOW64 (windows over Windows)