how can i find out if i can install a AGP or a PCI video card?
and how can i tell if i have PCI Express?

Open up the case and look for a brown slot similar to this...



if you have one, then you can use AGP cards.

similar story for PCI-Express, but the slot will look like this (I think, someone please confirm)

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Originally posted by saralk
Open up the case and look for a brown slot similar to this...



if you have one, then you can use AGP cards.

similar story for PCI-Express, but the slot will look like this (I think, someone please confirm)

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Simply look it up in your motherboard manual which cards your motherboard supports....

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Simply look it up in your motherboard manual which cards your motherboard supports....

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I suggest you take a picture inside your box...that will help to determine

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Originally posted by Mnjul
I suggest you take a picture inside your box...that will help to determine

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The white slots are PCI slots, what color is the slot where your videocard is now?

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Originally posted by Ezra
The white slots are PCI slots, what color is the slot where your videocard is now?

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Originally posted by TheMusicPirate

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Simply look it up in your motherboard manual which cards your motherboard supports....

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i don't have the manual for the motherboard...

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and i looked inside my computer, and it has 3 white slots

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and it has a place where i can add a AGP slot.

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i went into my BIOS and it said the video card was on a PCI slot, but it wasn't.

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Originally posted by TheMusicPirate

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The white slots are PCI slots, what color is the slot where your videocard is now?

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a small pink square.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

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Originally posted by TheMusicPirate

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Simply look it up in your motherboard manual which cards your motherboard supports....

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i don't have the manual for the motherboard...

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I actually guessed this already Look it up on the internet then... You should always have a manual at hand for stuff like this...

Manuals like this are very important pieces of paper!!! NEVER throw them out. A manual is always included when you buy a motherboard. And when bought your computer at a retail store as a whole package a manual must be included also; iether as a physical book, or iether on your harddisk.

If you still don't have the manual (or the store kepper refuses to give you one; in that case kick his but and go to another shop), you can always download the manual from the motherboard manufacture's site...

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and i looked inside my computer, and it has 3 white slots

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white slots can still mean anything. But these days, it usually are PCI slots...

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and it has a place where i can add a AGP slot.

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This should be a brown slot.

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i went into my BIOS and it said the video card was on a PCI slot, but it wasn't.

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if your BIOS says it is, then it is on a PCI slot. Your BIOS never lies (otherwise your mobo/graphics card wouldn't function anyways)

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Originally posted by Ezra
The white slots are PCI slots, what color is the slot where your videocard is now?

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a small pink square.

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hu? O.O .... slots are never "square"...

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my computer came with winxp home per installed

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my mobo is a Asus

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my computer came with winxp home per installed

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Doesn't mean a thing. Stores (online or not) should still provide the manual either as a seperate manual or CDROM or either as a PDF file or something on your harddisk...

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my mobo is a Asus

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That's just the brand name, it doesn't say a thing about your motherboard (well appart that it is from Asus)

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To find out what motherboard you have (not only the brand name):
go to http://www.lavalys.com/products/overview.php?pid=1
and download EVEREST Home Edition (it's free).

After you've installed it, run it. After that you'll see a list on the right site. And post the exact value of the Motherboard Name found in the menu Motherboard > Motherboard > Motherboard Properties.

And in that same submenu, under Expansion Slots you'll see if you have an AGP slot or not...

To see more details about the AGP slot go to
Motherboard > Chipset > AGP Properties. The important bit there is "Supported AGP Speeds".

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wtf... that must be the first mobo which isn't identified by Everest....
Anyways, I don't see anything about an AGP slot... I do see you have 1 PCIe slot (?)....

Take that screenshot of your mobo anyways and see if you can find the motherboard type number somewhere printed on it (usually the biggest text you'll find on the mobo)....

Also, see all the comments (read entire thread) in "Intel Chipsets".

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What you also can try instead of Everest is CPU-Z. download it directly from here, unzip it and run CPUZ.EXE... Within the program, check "Mainboard > Manufacturer & Model"

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wtf... that must be the first mobo which isn't identified by Everest....
Anyways, I don't see anything about an AGP slot... I do see you have 1 PCIe slot (?)....

Take that screenshot of your mobo anyways and see if you can find the motherboard type number somewhere printed on it (usually the biggest text you'll find on the mobo)....

Also, see all the comments (read entire thread) in "Intel Chipsets".

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What you also can try instead of Everest is CPU-Z. download it directly from here, unzip it and run CPUZ.EXE... Within the program, check "Mainboard > Manufacturer & Model"

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Goldfish?????? There is no motherboard from Asus which has "goldfish" as its type number... (this is getting weirder and weirder )

btw, I should have said this sooner though, sorry:

If you know it is an Asus motherboard you can also have found the model number of your motherboard by:
1) reading the barcode which is on a sticker on your motherboard
2) reading the big number which is on your motherboard (like I said earlier)
3) reading what the BIOS POST screen says.

see here.

its not the first , john andertons doesn't either, im still searching for the barcode number online

i'll do a google search of the mobo id number,

and it has built in video, using a Intel express graphics chipset, running a grantsdale codenamed gpu

i'll run a search on the asus discontinued products page

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http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocumen...&docname=c00300057

would this be it?


Asus did produce the Goldfish2, only it was made especially for computer manufacturers such as compaq and hp

it includes NO AGP
onboard video
3 pci slots

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its not the first , john andertons doesn't either, im still searching for the barcode number online

i'll do a google search of the mobo id number,

and it has built in video, using a Intel express graphics chipset, running a grantsdale codenamed gpu

i'll run a search on the asus discontinued products page

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http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocumen...&docname=c00300057

would this be it?


Asus did produce the Goldfish2, only it was made especially for computer manufacturers such as compaq and hp

it includes NO AGP
onboard video
3 pci slots

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its an AsusTek board, not Asus,

so when asus name changed so did all relevant information on the board

the board is also know as a Pxxx model, which is why you might now have been able to find it

you can put a PCI 5200 in there, but most video cards are either AGP or PCI-E now so theres not much choice otherwise

unless you update your mobo

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its not the first , john andertons doesn't either

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im still searching for the barcode number online

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i'll do a google search of the mobo id number

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and it has built in video, using a Intel express graphics chipset, running a grantsdale codenamed gpu

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i'll run a search on the asus discontinued products page

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EDIT
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocumen...&docname=c00300057

Asus did produce the Goldfish2, only it was made especially for computer manufacturers such as compaq and hp

it includes NO AGP
onboard video
3 pci slots

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would this be it?

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that is exactlly what my mobo looks like.

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its an AsusTek board, not Asus

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you can put a PCI 5200 in there, but most video cards are either AGP or PCI-E now so theres not much choice otherwise

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i've found countless motherboards using the ID number, its not hard, you just gotta work out how much of the id people actually use when they are after help,

and the pink square connecter is his LPT port,

but its not pink its purple

his video port is underneath the printer port, and he thinks thats what his video card is,

there was only 1 model of mobo which asus released with the goldfish 2 chipset,

the other 2 were goldfish1 and goldfish 3,

and its not hard to compare markings on a motherboard to those of a picture

i've already checked out other manu's and they don't have models of the goldfish 2,

EDIT*
PTGD1-LA  <<thats the mobo model number, see if that helps

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i've found countless motherboards using the ID number, its not hard, you just gotta work out how much of the id people actually use when they are after help,

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and the pink square connecter is his LPT port,
but its not pink its purple

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and its not hard to compare markings on a motherboard to those of a picture

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the mobo is a GoldFish2

there is only one goldfish 2

NO OTHERS
please can you try and understand this

PTGD1-LA covers all 3 goldfish boards, and they are all customised for either HP or Compaq

the goldfish2 is the one i gave to him, and this is his board, if you have trouble grasping at this then ask him when he posts next,

the Monitor plug is UNDERNEATH THE LPT PORT, which is why i said he thinks its a pink slot, and you can easily mistake pink for purple, anyways i was wrong about that and i know why he says pink, most integrated graphics these days use a pink socket, atleast most of the p4 ones at my school had a pink video socket,

please don't argue with me on this, when it comes to identifying motherboards, i do this on a regular basis, and i haven't been wrong yet,

and to your other question, Everest Home, doesn't tell what john andertons motherboard is, im still scanning on SERIAL NUMBERS, which is what i use to find mobos out when i don't have the model id

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the goldfish2 is the one i gave to him, and this is his board, if you have trouble grasping at this then ask him when he posts next,

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please don't argue with me on this, when it comes to identifying motherboards, i do this on a regular basis, and i haven't been wrong yet,

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and to your other question, Everest Home, doesn't tell what john andertons motherboard is, im still scanning on SERIAL NUMBERS, which is what i use to find mobos out when i don't have the model id

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its not the type number

the serial number is your own personal number of a motherboard BUT, by using the first few numbers you can normally find the match online, i did this for my AK77 400gn and it pulled up every single problem the board has, (theres a bug in my via chip which locks up any agp transfers when at 8x)

still there is only 1 Goldfish 2 available and when it comes to motherboards, i don't report back untill i've gotten every bit of detail i can, and have all the info needed

but anyways i know what serial numbers are and if you know which numbers to pick in a serial number you can find what your looking for.

ps, i know somethings i've said are wrong, but i usually get the data from supposedly trusted sources, such as ngo admin regeneration

i can only go on the information given to me at the time, but it seems we both have the same problem, that being we both need to be right all the time, which just can't happen

and for a bit of advice, its usually quicker sending asus a tech support email then calling them, they can be pretty slow, not saying they will be, saying they can be.

and for your peace of mind dude, when it comes ti motherboards and video cards and cpus and cooling, i know all about this, how one mistake can wipe out a system, i always get all data i can on a matter before posting my info, its not worth risking someones machine on a bunt,

i know that a wrong flash can result in a dead mobo if they dont have a rescue bios, or wrong drivers can result in BSOD at boot,

im not all that software savvy unless your talking bout windows speed tweaks, and using TES3: Editor,

im also very with the fastest gpu scene and i keep up to date on latest drivers and driver bugs,

anyways

did you hear about intel being sued by amd??? it seems intel have finally been caught out bribing manufacturers to not deal with them, like how long has this been going on... i can remember back.. say... 6-7 yrs intel did it to apple, and via, and even ibm

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and for a bit of advice, its usually quicker sending asus a tech support email then calling them, they can be pretty slow, not saying they will be, saying they can be.

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well as long as he gets all the right information,

i take helping people seriously

and yes there is times there where i argue just for the sake of it, even when im wrong,

i have ADHD OCD and ODD

which means im as stubborn as hell and seeing as im capricorn, im worse off then the most stubborn mountain goat

anyways, whats the verdict