I started my comp up today and got this message from my microsoft antispyware.



I checked to always ignore this treat as seen in pic.

"Now"? That has always been its behaviour... And it's just doing it's job to be honest, and better than the other anti spyware programs available, for that matter.

they relased a new beta on july 31st for me. i had to update
now it does this

It has always detected it for me.  Just ignore it, it isn't a big deal really

More information about Microsoft Anti-Spyware and the false readings for Messenger Plus! can be found here:

Microsoft's Anti-spyware Software...
Microsoft® Windows AntiSpyware (Beta)
MS Antispyware says Messenger Plus is adware
Microsoft ANtiSpyware Beta1 - False detections (not only Plus!)
Unless you are saying that it always appears no matter how many times you tell it that it's to be ignored.
Does it continue to appear after every restart? After you click to ignore the threat and then click Yes and Allow does it ever come up again? If Not, then this is old news.

Im not really keen on it, mainly because the other users get attacked by allow or ignore boxes when they logon... i got rid of it

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Originally posted by Absorbation
they relased a new beta on july 31st for me. i had to update
now it does this

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Well, that is new...... what the hell is that and since when msgplus.exe is a threat to anybody? I'm going to contact MS about this and if they don't do something about it, this time, I will. This is outrageous.

Thanks for reporting.

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Originally posted by Patchou
Well, that is new...... what the hell is that and since when msgplus.exe is a threat to anybody? I'm going to contact MS about this and if they don't do something about it, this time, I will. This is outrageous.

Thanks for reporting.

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Originally posted by Patchou
if they don't do something about it, this time, I will.

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Originally posted by NiteMare

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Originally posted by Patchou
if they don't do something about it, this time, I will.

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hmmm what whould you do?, sue?

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Originally posted by Chrono
it's a possibility i guess... it would be nice, it would be on television

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it would have something to do with the ads that you can optionally install

msgplus has always been detected by ms antispyware but only recently as been made a high risk

its in the news on mess.be

Note that the software has not been made "high risk", it's still considered moderate, they just added code to detect and remove the files everytime they are run, and not only during scans.

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Originally posted by Patchou
I'm going to contact MS about this and if they don't do something about it, this time, I will. This is outrageous.

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Originally posted by lawdka0z
What, like removing the adware? Face the facts, your in denial about this, your software is causing problems for people, they dont add these ratings for nothing.

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Again, I must insist on the facts: removing msgplus.exe WILL NOT remove the sponsor nor the way the sponsor is installed in the first place. It does not serve any purposes whatsoever except maybe "you're a bad boy, we'll remove all your stuff from our user's computers as a result and consider it as a threat, just in case".

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Originally posted by lawdka0z
YES, AND MICROSOFT IS ACTING LIKE A BABYSITTER? WHATS YOUR POINT? M$ ARE DOING THERE JOBS.

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Originally posted by Patchou
Again, I must insist on the facts: removing msgplus.exe WILL NOT remove the sponsor nor the way the sponsor is installed in the first place. It does not serve any purposes whatsoever except maybe "you're a bad boy, we'll remove all your stuff from our user's computers as a result and consider it as a threat, just in case".

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To be honest, perhaps you should remove the bundler...

I know that's how you make money, and thats all fair enough.  But you could maybe add 20 seconds of adverts at the end of the setup (that would reach more people too, since everyone would see them).  Or have adverts on the preference pages, I'm sure there must be other ways.

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Originally posted by lawdka0z
Must I make this point again,

IF Microsoft dont tag the whole msgplus package as unsafe, then you could just find a new adware provider and evade the bad rating!

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

which don't have anything to do with spyware/adware.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

Virusscanners DO work like they should work, they decect the malicous peice of code itself, they do NOT decect the program which is infected. MSAS should work the same (just as any other anti-adware/spyware program)

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
which don't have anything to do with spyware/adware.

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you really are an idiot, how does the adware get on the computer? THROUGH MESSENGER PLUS.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Virusscanners DO work like they should work, they decect the malicous peice of code itself, they do NOT decect the program which is infected. MSAS should work the same (just as any other anti-adware/spyware program)

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Ive seen Hacking programs intended for educational purposes added to virus scanner definition lists, does that mean the program contained a virus? NO, If your going to make a point then atleast make a decent one.

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I thought I would add my two cents here, or 2p for us British people here LOL

I can half understand Microsoft's reasons for stating Msgplus! as adware, because even though the sponsor is Optional the fact is you do get users of Mickey Soft Windows, who do not read instructions in setup wizards nor understand what they are doing.

Unfortunatly microsoft try to cater for the not so competent computer users and supply warnings to them to tell them what they are doing, which just irritates and aggrevates users who are more competent with computers.

Say for example Microsoft didn't put the warning there, they are likely to get some moron calling them saying, "I got some toolbar in internet explorer, it's all your fault for not warning me about it" just because they dun know what they are doing.

Trust me, I'm not pro Mickey Soft and I'm not anti Mickey soft, but I am just trying to keep an open mind on the issue...

Anyway that's my two cents (or my 2p)

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Unfortunatly microsoft try to cater for the not so competent computer users and supply warnings to them to tell them what they are doing, which just irritates and aggrevates users who are more competent with computers.

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You all claim that MsgPlus! isn't "Spyware" and it's "Adware" but that's the whole purpose of MSAS - to remove BOTH!  So, if you don't want to get bothered, click Ignore and get over it.

some peoples ignorace is truely amazing, this is an endless debate (flamewar might be a better term...), and yet after all this time, the simple message hasn't gotten through: Messenger Plus! can install adware. All this forum seems to talk about is "its optional u fukface!!1". Optional or not, it still comes with it, it can still install it, and people do install it. How does no one see that?

Adware, spyware, malware, sponsorware, crapware... whatever you want to call it, is a problem.

regardless of MsgPlus also being a religion, Patchou being your God, whatever ridiculous thing you've come up with today, it doesn't change the fact Messenger Plus! has the possibility to install it. You cannot expect 12 your noob to read 10 pages of jargon and make an imformed decision.

arguing that it is optional is paddling upstream and only makes you look more stupid. its a good thing Messenger Plus! is as good as it is, it makes up for the damage the sponsor can do to its reputation. You need to look outside this community, and see what's going on the real world.

MSAS is only doing it's job, what it was previously doing obviously wasn't helping as much as they want it to, so they've stepped up the mark. Actions have consequences. this must be the end of Patchou's cash run, perhaps he needs to realise that.

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Originally posted by BigBean
some peoples ignorace is truely amazing, this is an endless debate (flamewar might be a better term...), and yet after all this time, the simple message hasn't gotten through: Messenger Plus! can install adware. All this forum seems to talk about is "its optional u fukface!!1". Optional or not, it still comes with it, it can still install it, and people do install it. How does no one see that?

Adware, spyware, malware, sponsorware, crapware... whatever you want to call it, is a problem.

regardless of MsgPlus also being a religion, Patchou being your God, whatever ridiculous thing you've come up with today, it doesn't change the fact Messenger Plus! has the possibility to install it. You cannot expect 12 your noob to read 10 pages of jargon and make an imformed decision.

arguing that it is optional is paddling upstream and only makes you look more stupid. its a good thing Messenger Plus! is as good as it is, it makes up for the damage the sponsor can do to its reputation. You need to look outside this community, and see what's going on the real world.

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Originally posted by BigBean
some peoples ignorace is truely amazing, this is an endless debate (flamewar might be a better term...), and yet after all this time, the simple message hasn't gotten through: Messenger Plus! can install adware. All this forum seems to talk about is "its optional u fukface!!1". Optional or not, it still comes with it, it can still install it, and people do install it. How does no one see that?

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Originally posted by BigBean
regardless of MsgPlus also being a religion, Patchou being your God

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Originally posted by BigBean
You cannot expect 12 your noob to read 10 pages of jargon and make an imformed decision.

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Originally posted by BigBean
You need to look outside this community, and see what's going on the real world.

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Originally posted by Absorbation
are you from ms anti spyware? you do make a good point but at the end of the day it is a false dectention you should say it's adware and optional

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Originally posted by BigBean
no, I'm just pissed off with the amount of adware in this industry, and the "victims" don't know any better. saying it's adware and is optional doesn't get rid of it. that's what MSAS is supposed to do. it can still be installed.

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Originally posted by lawdka0z

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

which don't have anything to do with spyware/adware.

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you really are an idiot, how does the adware get on the computer? THROUGH MESSENGER PLUS.

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Originally posted by CookieRevisedyou are missing the point of these recent discussion...

We KNOW Messenger Plus! COULD install adware IF the user chooses to do so... But this is besides the point...

The point of these recent descussions is that MSAS has gone one step further and detecting something which IS NOT there. Aka: it detects Plus! itself (msgplus.exe and the DLL's) as containing potential adware, while it never contained any adware at all. Even when you've choosen not to install the sponsor, MSAS will still give the warning.

The point is that MSAS shouldn't detect msgplus.exe, MsgPlusH.dll, MsgPlusRes.dll, etc... as malicious, but it should detect the INSTALLER as an adware containing product. If it did that, then we wouldn't had any issue with it...

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they are two different programs altogther one by patchou one by c2lop

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Originally posted by CookieRevisedyou are missing the point of these recent discussion...

We KNOW Messenger Plus! COULD install adware IF the user chooses to do so... But this is besides the point...

The point of these recent descussions is that MSAS has gone one step further and detecting something which IS NOT there. Aka: it detects Plus! itself (msgplus.exe and the DLL's) as containing potential adware, while it never contained any adware at all. Even when you've choosen not to install the sponsor, MSAS will still give the warning.

The point is that MSAS shouldn't detect msgplus.exe, MsgPlusH.dll, MsgPlusRes.dll, etc... as malicious, but it should detect the INSTALLER as an adware containing product. If it did that, then we wouldn't had any issue with it...

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Heard of a thing called "comprehension"? Read my post again if you still don't understand, or get your daddy to spell it out for you. Messenger Plus! as an application comes with adware--UNDERSTAND? Last time I scanned my PC with MSAS before this, it also listed all the registry entries in the results... they can't possibly be spywares!!1

fuck, how the hell did you become MVP? step out of fanboy mode for a minute, please. don't just look at things from one angle.

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WTF !!! Excuse me to those who say that Messenger Plus! is potentially dangerous for your computer, but they're wrong! I mean when you install Msg Plus!, the installer asks you if you want to install the sponsor (an adware). Of course you choose "NO", but if you choose to install the adware, just to bad for you! Even if Microsoft AntiSpyware says that msgplus.exe is a spyware (and that's not true, msgplus.exe is not a spyware itself !!!), if you have installed the sponsor, it won't change anything !!! We can say that the installer is itself a kind of adware, coz it asks you to install an adware during the installtion... But once installed, Messenger Plus! (msgplus.exe) itself is all except a spyware!!! So, I think that Microsoft Antispyware made a big mistake by qualifying Msg Plus! as a spyware !!!

Hope you'll sign the petition => here <=

That petition won't do crap.  The only way to get this fixed is if Patchou does it himself.  And I mean, what the hell is the problem?  You want MSAS to go easy on stuff that could potentially work the same way as Plus! (the installer, the hooks, etc.), but yet slip by? - Then you'd be blaming MSAS!  You can't have your cake and eat it too!  Not everyone may be as knowledgable as us to know it isn't or not to click Next Next etc..., but come on!  Just click Ignore for hell's sake!!!!!!

From tests, ignore doesn't do much. Infact, it's crippled Messenger Plus! sometimes.

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    quoteriginally posted by CookieRevised

    which don't have anything to do with spyware/adware.



you really are an idiot, how does the adware get on the computer? THROUGH MESSENGER PLUS.

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Messenger Plus won't go down, its the best add-on for MSN Messenger.  At least in my opinion it is.

Enough of yelling for one day, thread closed. You want me to do something about it? I will, but it won't be whatever anyone like you is thinking right now, I can promise that, I'm tired of the BS.