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What Mircosoft Really Dose by Val on 08-23-2005 at 04:32 AM
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There are folders on your computer that Microsoft has tried hard to keep secret. Within these folders you will find two major things: Microsoft Internet Explorer has not been clearing your browsing history after you have instructed it to do so, and Microsoft's Outlook Express has not been deleting your e-mail correspondence after you've erased them from your Deleted Items bin. (This also includes all incoming and outgoing file attachments.) And believe me, that's not even the half of it.
When I say these files are hidden well, I really mean it. If you don't have any knowledge of DOS then don't plan on finding these files on your own. I say this because these files/folders won't be displayed in Windows Explorer at all -- only DOS. (Even after you have enabled Windows Explorer to "show all files.") And to top it off, the only way to find them in DOS is if you knew the exact location of them. Basically, what I'm saying is if you didn't know the files existed then the chances of you running across them is slim to slimmer.
It's interesting to note that Microsoft does not explain this behavior adequately at all. Just try searching on microsoft.com.
More info Here
RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by ShawnZ on 08-23-2005 at 04:36 AM
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Originally posted by val3006
There are folders on your computer that Microsoft has tried hard to keep secret. Within these folders you will find two major things: Microsoft Internet Explorer has not been clearing your browsing history after you have instructed it to do so, and Microsoft's Outlook Express has not been deleting your e-mail correspondence after you've erased them from your Deleted Items bin. (This also includes all incoming and outgoing file attachments.) And believe me, that's not even the half of it.
When I say these files are hidden well, I really mean it. If you don't have any knowledge of DOS then don't plan on finding these files on your own. I say this because these files/folders won't be displayed in Windows Explorer at all -- only DOS. (Even after you have enabled Windows Explorer to "show all files.") And to top it off, the only way to find them in DOS is if you knew the exact location of them. Basically, what I'm saying is if you didn't know the files existed then the chances of you running across them is slim to slimmer.
It's interesting to note that Microsoft does not explain this behavior adequately at all. Just try searching on microsoft.com.
We're all aware, not to mension that page is years old :/ they're system folders and those hidden files in them are used for cacheing and indexing the history/emails etc. If you want you can easily delete them with a third party program but what's the point?
RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by -dt- on 08-23-2005 at 04:37 AM
ok ![[Image: xso_undecided.gif]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/smilies/xso_undecided.gif)
this is old news but theres most likely a perfectly good reson for it.
pfft dosnt bother me I dont use either.... \o/ thunderbird + firefox.....
RE: RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by Val on 08-23-2005 at 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by ShawnZ
quote:
Originally posted by val3006
There are folders on your computer that Microsoft has tried hard to keep secret. Within these folders you will find two major things: Microsoft Internet Explorer has not been clearing your browsing history after you have instructed it to do so, and Microsoft's Outlook Express has not been deleting your e-mail correspondence after you've erased them from your Deleted Items bin. (This also includes all incoming and outgoing file attachments.) And believe me, that's not even the half of it.
When I say these files are hidden well, I really mean it. If you don't have any knowledge of DOS then don't plan on finding these files on your own. I say this because these files/folders won't be displayed in Windows Explorer at all -- only DOS. (Even after you have enabled Windows Explorer to "show all files.") And to top it off, the only way to find them in DOS is if you knew the exact location of them. Basically, what I'm saying is if you didn't know the files existed then the chances of you running across them is slim to slimmer.
It's interesting to note that Microsoft does not explain this behavior adequately at all. Just try searching on microsoft.com.
We're all aware, not to mension that page is years old :/ they're system folders and those hidden files in them are used for cacheing and indexing the history/emails etc. If you want you can easily delete them with a third party program but what's the point?
Well some ppl who im not ganna say *hint* *hint* go on the (cencored) type of websites and they probably dont want spyware and shit or something like that also some hackers could get all your info like that
quote:Same
Originally posted by -dt-
ok
pfft dosnt bother me I dont use either.... \o/ thunderbird + firefox.....
RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by ShawnZ on 08-23-2005 at 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by val3006
Well some ppl who im not ganna say *hint* *hint* go on the (cencored) type of websites and they probably dont want spyware and shit or something like that also some hackers could get all your info like that
Its entertaning how you refer to porn in such a childish manner
And who cares if hackers see what websites you go to? you don't think they have 200 gigs of porn themselves on their computers?
RE: RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by Val on 08-23-2005 at 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by ShawnZ
quote:
Originally posted by val3006
Well some ppl who im not ganna say *hint* *hint* go on the (cencored) type of websites and they probably dont want spyware and shit or something like that also some hackers could get all your info like that
Its entertaning how you refer to porn in such a childish manner
And who cares if hackers see what websites you go to? you don't think they have 200 gigs of porn themselves on their computers?
Maybe they got dads teaching them and then they say no son bad son porn is for the older ppl like me lmao and the *hint* *hint* thing i dont even now where it came from
RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by ShawnZ on 08-23-2005 at 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by val3006
Maybe they got dads teaching them and then they say no son bad son porn is for the older ppl like me
um okay wtf first of all i assume someone's dad wouldnt even bother to check stuff like index.dat and second why would he complain? :/
that reminds me... http://bash.org/?334331
RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by DJeX on 08-23-2005 at 05:13 AM
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Originally posted by ShawnZ
that reminds me... http://bash.org/?334331
LMAO nice!
And does XP have this crap in it? I went to that site and nothing works that it tells me to do.
RE: RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by Val on 08-23-2005 at 05:14 AM
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Originally posted by ShawnZ
quote:
Originally posted by val3006
Maybe they got dads teaching them and then they say no son bad son porn is for the older ppl like me
um okay wtf first of all i assume someone's dad wouldnt even bother to check stuff like index.dat and second why would he complain? :/
that reminds me... http://bash.org/?334331
lol nice its one of those computer jokes
RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by ShawnZ on 08-23-2005 at 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by DJeX
And does XP have this crap in it? I went to that site and nothing works that it tells me to do.
all windows' do
didn't you get the part in my post about them just being indexes and it being faster with them there?
RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by Purity on 08-23-2005 at 05:40 AM
I think it's stupid..... we pay for their program and this is what we get.....
RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by Eljay on 08-23-2005 at 06:23 AM
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Originally posted by ShawnZ
that reminds me... http://bash.org/?334331
quote:
Originally posted by -dt-
dosnt bother me I dont use either.... \o/ thunderbird + firefox.....
ditto.
RE: RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by Val on 08-23-2005 at 05:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Purity
I think it's stupid..... we pay for their program and this is what we get.....
yeah down with MIRCOSOFT
RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by Ezra on 08-23-2005 at 05:22 PM
Uhm , you do know there is a difference between Hidden and System files right?
And there are two different checkboxes to show them nowadays...
RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by Plik on 08-23-2005 at 05:30 PM
quote:What operating system to you use?
Originally posted by val3006
yeah down with MIRCOSOFT
Do you use messenger?
I think its stupid how everyones worried about people accessing these folders.
If you care enough about them you can get a program to clear them, or just dont go on dodgy porn sites
, and if your parents cared enough to check these folders all the time then the would just watch over you when your online.
RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by CookieRevised on 08-23-2005 at 07:20 PM
I hate such articles... such articles are typically written and read by people who stamp them as absolute truth and use such stuff as references in discussion ("see, X has written that blahblah, that's proof enough")
eg:
quote:1) "history", "cache", "cookies", "temporary files" are all very different items and can't be thrown on one heap if you write something like that
One more thing. They contain your browsing history at ALL times. Even after you have instructed Microsoft Internet Explorer to clear your history/cache. And so the saying goes, "seeing is believing."
To see for yourself simply do as you would normally do to clear your browsing history. Go to Internet Options under your Control Panel. Click on the [Clear History] and [Delete Files] buttons. (Make sure to include all offline content.)
So, has your browsing history been cleared? One would think so.
Skipping the to chase here. These are the names and locations of the "really hidden files":
c:\windows\history\history.ie5\index.dat
(blahblahblah)
2) The button he is talking about in MSIE clearly states: "history", not "cache", not "cookies", not anything else. Of course pressing that button will only delete the "history"
3) after pressing all buttons (history, cache, temp files, etc) EVERYTHING is cleared, even in his so called folders-which-MS-doesn't-want-you-to-know-about and his oh-so-secretly-index.dat files
quote:1) Oh yeah, remove the complete directories with name and all so Windows can get confused and sometimes *beeps* up because the system directories which it needs don't exist anymore
DELTREE/Y TEMPOR~1 (This line removes your internet cache.)
(If that last line doesn't work, then type this
CD\WINDOWS\APPLIC~1
DELTREE/Y TEMPOR~1
(If that didn't work, then type this
CD\WINDOWS\LOCALS~1
DELTREE/Y TEMPOR~1
2) Sure, advise the readers to use DOS 8.3 shortnames so you can kill directories you didn't wanted to kill because they have actually another index number...
Temporary Word Files => shortname: TEMPOR~1
Temporary Internet files => shortname: TEMPOR~2
Take such ("bashing" 'n "lets proof it") articles with a serious grain of salt.... don't believe everything which is insinuated there. Just use the stuff he said and do some research and learning on your own... If Windows has hidden folders, there is a reason to. If it has system folders, it has even more reason to. If it doesn't include certain folders in the searches (which you can easly turn on /off btw) it has every reason to. You don't want n00bs to go messing with files and folders which Windows needs to keep on running properly. Also, Windows doesn't hide a thing. Sure it hides stuff, but it is hidden from the unknowledgeable user who otherwise would mess it up anyways. For the user who knows what he is doing (or who cares to read how to turn certain options off), Windows has no secrets at all...
RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by ShawnZ on 08-23-2005 at 09:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ezra
Uhm , you do know there is a difference between Hidden and System files right?
And there are two different checkboxes to show them nowadays...
Not 'System' folders, actual system folders that are hidden by default and can't be shown in explorer regardless of their attributes
quote:Finally someone says it
Originally posted by CookieRevised
...
you guys get too worried about your computers, god
RE: What Mircosoft Really Dose by Val on 08-24-2005 at 03:25 PM
well im not agreeing with this im just checking if its real or something i have never tried this and never will and no my parents dont check these file just clear so things up this is only exzampls and stuff