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Originally posted by Sean @ Messengermad.com
Recently alot of talk has been going around the internet about a possible MSN Messenger 8.0 feature list. We here at Messengermad.com have been told that MSN Messenger 8.0 is already in development, and a BETA product may be released by the end of this year or early next year. Messer still_tippin posted on the Mess.be Forums a possible feature list of MSN Messenger v8.0.

• Change of Messenger Skins
• Real-time Emotions
• Messenger Built Internal Windows Media Player 10
• Pause/Resumed File Transfers (File Blocked Extension Applied)
• Detailed File Transfer (Download/Upload Speed)
• Animated Display Pictures (.gif .jpg .png (File Support under Consideration))
• Mood Status
• Faster Contact List Loading and scrolling
• Public Profile and MSN Spaces Combined
• More MSN Space features
• New Hotmail and MSN Messenger Integration
• Downloadable MSN Messenger on Mobile
• News Updates according to Location
• Top 10 MSN Music Radio
• New Stylish Notifier Pop-up
• Downloadable Skins for MSN (Contact Window & Conversation Window)
• Complete Integration with Windows XP® & Windows Vista® Codename: Longhorn®
• Offline Voice/Message Machine
• Animated Buddy Icon Helper
• Display Picture Ratings


These have not yet been confirmed by any Microsoft Employee, but sources tell me that indeed this could be what is going to be packaged into MSN Messenger 8.0. Your probably wondering, why would the MSN Developers jump from 7.5 to 8.0? Well, they have went from 7.0 to 7.5 so you never know what is going to happen.

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Wasnt MSN 8.0 rumoured to be the password stealer program before this post?

Re-read it mwe99.

It looks good.

Yeah i did read it but im sure i read a while back that people made MSN 8.0 a password stealer thing, i know the source and its a decent reliable site, just stating

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Originally posted by mwe99
Wasnt MSN 8.0 rumoured to be the password stealer program before this post?

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Originally posted by XxRebelSeanxX
• Animated Display Pictures (.gif .jpg .png (File Support under Consideration))

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Originally posted by XxRebelSeanxX
• Change of Messenger Skins

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Originally posted by XxRebelSeanxX
• Downloadable MSN Messenger on Mobile

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WOW ANIMATED JPEGS!

Why even post stuff like this and start rumors in the first place? Wow, someones' friend's uncle said it, ALL PRAISE THESE NEW AND WONDERFUL FEATURES!

Besides, they'll probably drop half the stuff before release if that IS real.

funny tht init, hey jumped from 6.2 to 7 as well, seems like they're tryna compete against something to me. they seem to be rushing out they're better stuff that we normally have to wait ages an ages for.

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Originally posted by Mentality
funny tht init, hey jumped from 6.2 to 7 as well, seems like they're tryna compete against something to me. they seem to be rushing out they're better stuff that we normally have to wait ages an ages for.

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Bloatware.

speculations?

I think that everyone forgets that build numbers increase as the changes increase. Say, we got 6.2, with the similar GUI to 6.0 and similar features, just got very little details on. Now, look at 7.5 and 7.0. 7.5 got some new interfaces and features (Dynamic BG, Voiceclip, etc.). Look at 6.2 and 6.0 and find the differences, only colorize, yellow mobile thingy, and other details. 7.5 got more changes, obviously. That is why they renamed it to 7.5, not 7.1, because 7.5 got many differences. Of course, if 8.0 gets new interface and features, the build is accurate. You would not call 8.0 as 7.6 if it got skin added there, would you?

I, myself, has think of several features I want.

1. Skin and being able to colorize the contact list as well.

2. Always-on-top buttons.
It really makes life easier when I chat to someone while reading something else.

3. Game and Office Icons in PSM.
This is already partly implemented in 7.x, so I think they should make it fully functional.

4. Offline Messaging.
Same as above, already partly implemented.

5. Being able to turn off the file transfer limit.
WE KNOW THAT OUR FRIEND IS SENDING SOMETHING NICE ACCORDING TO THE CON WE HAVE, MAKE US ABLE TO DISABLE IT WITHOUT PATCHES, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT KNOW PATCHES.

6. Tab conversation, though Patchou is implementing it on Plus!.

7. Animated DP.
What else should I say about it?

8. More Options Button
I hate it when the actions pane in contact list is now obsolete. Maybe they should put a single button under the contact list that will show a list of actions. That way, life will be a bit easier for people who do not like frames. Besides that, it doesn't waste much space like the one in 6.0.

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Originally posted by Poom


1. Skin and being able to colorize the contact list as well.

2. Always-on-top buttons.
It really makes life easier when I chat to someone while reading something else.

3. Game and Office Icons in PSM.
This is already partly implemented in 7.x, so I think they should make it fully functional.

4. Offline Messaging.
Same as above, already partly implemented.

5. Being able to turn off the file transfer limit.
WE KNOW THAT OUR FRIEND IS SENDING SOMETHING NICE ACCORDING TO THE CON WE HAVE, MAKE US ABLE TO DISABLE IT WITHOUT PATCHES, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT KNOW PATCHES.

6. Tab conversation, though Patchou is implementing it on Plus!.

7. Animated DP.
What else should I say about it?

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It says full longhorn/vista integration, by that i am guessing that they are not going to release it until vista comes out.

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Originally posted by XxRebelSeanxX
• Downloadable MSN Messenger on Mobile

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* Pr0xY slaps Ddunk around a bit with a large trout.

How dare you use that picture.... its too old. 

Nice features for 8.0, hope they all are true. 

yeah some of them look nice, i'm worried about msn messenger turning even more bloaty then it is already , don't want it turning into something like ICQ

Well, I like this new version, and shall look forward to version 8.

I have ICQ pro, but there is ICQ light, which is a simpler version and does not have all the features of the pro. Unfortunately the pro is old and needs to be updated, which they will not do until at least next year.

Aol have just brought out a new version, beta, which has more features too.

I think it is all to do with broadband and being able to webcam and have conversations with people and of course people using mobile phones, but then you can get IMs for mobile phones, so that you only have one IM with all you instant messengers on one software, unfortunately you have to pay for them, one of them being Agile Messenger and the other IM+, Agile Messenger being slightly cheaper.

Messenger should have a lite version also.... So that people who don't want it to take up alot of room on their hard drive don't need it to.....

It could like... exclude nudges, winks, emoticons, DP's... things like that... and! You could pick what you want or don't want... Blah just an idea after reading schockwave's post.

As Mess.be says:

There's no reason to believe that all of these feature will actually be part of MSN Messenger 8.0 when it's released somewhere in 2006.

Indeed, that list is nothing more than a compiled list of features which people want and/or rumours what people believe is going to be added...

Such lists/posts are never to be taken as "this is it". No, they are "this is what people came up with while they were bored and wanted to post something to catch some attention".

Such lists are pure speculation, nothing more...

whose gonna wannt more bloatware an or MSN messenger when Google Talk is out out Beta? Plus 8 you'll prolly have to Pay for anyway

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Originally posted by mwe99
You can

1. Use a skin
2. Always on top is in Tools
5. http://www.stuffplug.com (its a plugin not a patch) [please note not all functions work with MSN 7.5]
6. Patchou currently has that in testing
7. Dynamic Display Pictures are in operation.

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Originally posted by Poom
2. eh? I am using a patch for always-on-top button

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I'm a little skeptical because 7.5 just got released

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Originally posted by Lee Jeffery
WOW ANIMATED JPEGS!

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I'm interested in skinning features and the animated DP's(FINALY!)

its just a Pure Rumour that 8.0 will be comming out at the moment, dont get ya hopes up, an as Cookie mentioned Not everything of those features will actually be implemented

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Originally posted by ~INVASION~
umm actually animated .jpeg technology does exist

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Originally posted by qune

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Originally posted by ~INVASION~
umm actually animated .jpeg technology does exist

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how's that now?.. if it does exist, what are the platforms to support it?.. highly doubtable imho, besides what's the point if it doesn't support alpha blending... png will most likely aim itself into the direction of supporting multiple frames/animation...

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Originally posted by qgroessl
Messenger should have a lite version also.... So that people who don't want it to take up alot of room on their hard drive don't need it to.....

It could like... exclude nudges, winks, emoticons, DP's... things like that... and! You could pick what you want or don't want... Blah just an idea after reading schockwave's post.

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Yet more reasons why I don't use MSN Messenger 8, too many damn useless features, I just wanna IM with people, not annoy them to their death.

Svip, no-one use MSN Messenger 8 yet, since it doesn't excist!

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Originally posted by einum
Svip, no-one use MSN Messenger 8 yet, since it doesn't excist!

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Originally posted by XxRebelSeanxX
Complete Integration with Windows XP® & Windows Vista® Codename: Longhorn®

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id expect msn 8 to come out next may so its miles off yet. but the feature list looks good anything from that would be good.

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Originally posted by einum
Svip, no-one use MSN Messenger 8 yet, since it doesn't excist!

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Originally posted by XxRebelSeanxX
How do you know it doesn't exist? I here from some very high up people that development has done began, and I'm not lieing about that either.

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Originally posted by XxRebelSeanxX
How do you know it doesn't exist? I here from some very high up people that development has done began, and I'm not lieing about that either.

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an how do you know there not just  fooling around with you Sean,

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Originally posted by XxRebelSeanxX
Because there not like that . It's been known for quit some time now that MSNM v8.0 development has began

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How do you know it doesn't exist? I here from some very high up people that development has done began, and I'm not lieing about that either.

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an how do you know there not just  fooling around with you Sean,

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Because there not like that . It's been known for quit some time now that MSNM v8.0 development has began .

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I told my friends uncle to email me the features of the New MSN, he finally emailed me after 8 hours. Well He asked his friend from the Messenger Department to tell him the features, well here they are:
[SNIPPED]
*The list above is ideas from past beta users and ideas are not finalized

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Recently alot of talk has been going around the internet about a possible MSN Messenger 8.0 feature list. We here at Messengermad.com have been told that MSN Messenger 8.0 is already in development, and a BETA product may be released by the end of this year or early next year. Messer still_tippin posted on the Mess.be Forums a possible feature list of MSN Messenger v8.0.

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These have not yet been confirmed by any Microsoft Employee, but sources tell me that indeed this could be what is going to be packaged into MSN Messenger 8.0.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
I hear such "reports" constantly on various forums, that "some high-up people say this and that".

Mostly (99,9999999999% of all cases) those high-up people are just common people hearing stuff from other just the same or inventing stuff or even don't speak perfect english and thus writing wrong or suggestive stuff... and then the ball gets rolling and before you know it, we have an "official" report because those people have a high-standing/good friends/whatnot towards those who read the posts. This does not mean those reports are accurate at all. It means someone (which doesn't need to be "high-up" at all) just started to spread a rumour....

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Well, if it can make some of you happy, I did see some Messenger 8 related stuff myself while I was at Microsoft headquarter's this summer and what I saw is not in the "leaked list" .

Just remember that if there was such a good source of information from Microsoft, this guy/girl would probably get fired pretty soon for giving that kind of info publicly. I would suggest you don't get your hopes up for any rumour you hear about Messenger .

as i thought, patchou would know before you knew Sean

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Well, if it can make some of you happy, I did see some Messenger 8 related stuff myself while I was at Microsoft headquarter's this summer and what I saw is not in the "leaked list" .

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And what exactly did u see ? -- I know, i know, they made u sign an nda, but then again u could start rumours too (Didn't c any harm in asking )

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If you know (he won't/can't say anything), why are you asking?

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as i thought, patchou would know before you knew Sean

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umm actually animated .jpeg technology does exist

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how's that now?.. if it does exist, what are the platforms to support it?.. highly doubtable imho, besides what's the point if it doesn't support alpha blending... png will most likely aim itself into the direction of supporting multiple frames/animation...

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tryig hard to defend urself now sean?..u were the one that first Posted about this thread yeah? .. you obviously believed all those features that were listed would have been in 8.0? . how many times did Cookie tell you Sean, i'd believe Patchou before i believed you,

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Originally posted by Animal
tryig hard to defend urself now sean?..u were the one that first Posted about this thread yeah? .. you obviously believed all those features that were listed would have been in 8.0? . how many times did Cookie tell you Sean, i'd believe Patchou before i believed you,

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Cool down everybody, there's no reason to get mad over this. Sean is right, some of the stuff in the list will probably endup in the final version, we just don't know what yet, there's no need for a battle of who knows what ad nobody knows anything .

Also, I want to make something very clear regarding my last post: I said that what I saw was not on the list, I didn't say that I didn't see some of the stuff in the list (it's the opposite). And of course... no, I can't say anything so don't even ask .

RebelSean, it is about misinformation and making suggestive posts, starting rumours. If you knew the list isn't 100% then why post it in the first place. And why not clearly state with big letters that this is all just a rumour (because it is; as nothing is confirmed at all)...or at least post the real source so people can read the real source thread, instead of copying from a site which also copied it from the source (and thus adding/removing ungrounded comments to it)

Making suggestive posts while you know some people will interpret it as "the holy truth" and spread it further (without the added notes), is worse than even posting the literal source post without anything added/removed.

I hope we all can remember what happened when someone posted that dynamic DP's would be added. It didn't take long before someone interpreted this as animated DPs and some time later as animated GIFs and all hell broke loose when MSN didn't added them...

This is just the same. If you don't know for sure, don't post it to avoid misinterpretations and rumours.



PS1: if someone posted a list like that of Messenger Plus!, you would also complain about it being rumours etc...
PS2: don't take this too personaly, many people do this kind of things, so all this is more meant in general...

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
RebelSean, it is about misinformation and making suggestive posts, starting rumours. If you knew the list isn't 100% then why post it in the first place. And why not clearly state with big letters that this is all just a rumour (because it is; as nothing is confirmed at all)...

Making suggestive posts while you know some people will interpret it as "the holy truth" and spread it further (without the added notes), is worse than even posting the literal source post without anything added/removed.

I hope we all can remember what happened when someone posted that dynamic DP's would be added. It didn't take long before someone interpreted this as animated DPs and some time later as animated GIFs and all hell broke loose when MSN didn't added them...

This is just the same. If you don't know for sure, don't post it to avoid misinterpretations and rumours.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
RebelSean, it is about misinformation and making suggestive posts, starting rumours. If you knew the list isn't 100% then why post it in the first place. And why not clearly state with big letters that this is all just a rumour (because it is; as nothing is confirmed at all)...

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Making suggestive posts while you know some people will interpret it as "the holy truth" and spread it further (without the added notes), is worse than even posting the literal source post without anything added/removed.

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Making suggestive posts while you know some people will interpret it as "the holy truth" and spread it further (without the added notes), is worse than even posting the literal source post without anything added/removed.

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Can you point to me were I ever made a suggestive post saying that the list was true ? I don't remember doing anything remotely like that. All I have claimed to be true is that MSN Messenger 8 is in development.

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