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7.5.0299 Crashing by John Anderton on 08-28-2005 at 11:10 AM

i just downloaded the latest msn messenger which is a 8.91 mb installer :shocked: The size just keeps increasing :P

Anyways i downloaded and installed it over the old msn. When it launched my firewall (zone alarm security suite (av+fw+asw)) stopped it and asked me for permissions .... i allowed it and then it crashed. I restarted it and it crashed again.
So i uninstall it and then reinstall. Same problem.

It was downloaded from the official site as usual. http://messenger.msn.com/Download

I cant confirm the version number as i cant even get it started :-/ I just copied the version number from Absorbations skin thread which happened to be in the same forum ;)

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by absorbation on 08-28-2005 at 11:11 AM

Stuffplug, do you have that insatlled? :P

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by John Anderton on 08-28-2005 at 11:17 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Absorbation
Stuffplug, do you have that insatlled? :P
Yeah why ?? compatibility issues :-/
I didnt see any message :-/
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by user35870 on 08-28-2005 at 11:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by John Anderton
Yeah why ?? compatibility issues
I didnt see any message

Yeh stuffplug will crash msn 7.5 if the over-sized display pictures feature is enabled. I suggest you remove stuffplug  and try again.
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by John Anderton on 08-28-2005 at 11:36 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Chr1s
Yeh stuffplug will crash msn 7.5 if the over-sized display pictures feature is enabled. I suggest you remove stuffplug  and try again.
Oh ... ok ill try that and post again .... thanks :)
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by x2zen on 08-28-2005 at 12:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by John Anderton
The size just keeps increasing
They removed the support for Windows 98, ME and 2000, thats why.
[/offtopic]
TB will soon release a public beta which will fix all the bugs with 7.5
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by John Anderton on 08-28-2005 at 12:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by x2zen
quote:
Originally posted by John Anderton
The size just keeps increasing
They removed the support for Windows 98, ME and 2000, thats why.
[/offtopic]
TB will soon release a public beta which will fix all the bugs with 7.5
Thank god. Im waiting for TB's new release ;)
And A. Madsen why did the size increase if they removed the support for older versions O.o
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by Eljay on 08-28-2005 at 12:10 PM

beta versions have more debugging features and stuff i guess thats why the size is huge, anyways you dont have to totally disable SPNG

Start > Run > regedit > go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Patchou\MsgPlus2\<your email>\Preferences\Plugins\stuffplug-ng.dll

and set BigEmotes and BiggerDP to 00

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by x2zen on 08-28-2005 at 12:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by John Anderton
And A. Madsen why did the size increase if they removed the support for older versions O.o
See Leah's MSN Space (http://spaces.msn.com/members/IMUnplugged/), she is the msn messenger Program Manager:
quote:
Setup Changes

It wasn't easy, but Messenger had to make the painful decision to only support Windows XP gold and above users on this new version since the majority of our customers are running newer systems If you are running an older OS you'll have to stick with Messenger 7. Lucky for you that was a good product too. For the people running XP and above, thanks to this change we were able to clean up and get rid of a bunch of the bulk, which will result in a smaller setup package.
:)
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by John Anderton on 08-28-2005 at 12:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by x2zen
t wasn't easy, but Messenger had to make the painful decision to only support Windows XP gold and above users on this new version since the majority of our customers are running newer systems If you are running an older OS you'll have to stick with Messenger 7. Lucky for you that was a good product too. For the people running XP and above, thanks to this change we were able to clean up and get rid of a bunch of the bulk, which will result in a smaller setup package.
My point exactly .... it says "which will result in a smaller setup package." and the size has increased.

7.0.x (random)      -> 7.01 MB
7.5.x (older)          -> 7.62 MB
7.5.0299 (current) -> 8.91 MB

See what i mean :-/
Can i run the old stuffplug with big emos, unlimited emos only and no ads ?? Those are the 3 most imp things for me :)
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by Eljay on 08-28-2005 at 12:23 PM

quote:
Originally posted by John Anderton
quote:
Originally posted by x2zen
t wasn't easy, but Messenger had to make the painful decision to only support Windows XP gold and above users on this new version since the majority of our customers are running newer systems If you are running an older OS you'll have to stick with Messenger 7. Lucky for you that was a good product too. For the people running XP and above, thanks to this change we were able to clean up and get rid of a bunch of the bulk, which will result in a smaller setup package.
My point exactly .... it says "which will result in a smaller setup package." and the size has increased.

7.0.x (random)      -> 7.01 MB
7.5.x (older)          -> 7.62 MB
7.5.0299 (current) -> 8.91 MB

See what i mean :-/
Can i run the old stuffplug with big emos, unlimited emos only and no ads ?? Those are the 3 most imp things for me :)

you cant have big emos because that requires big dps to be enabled, but you can have unlimited emos and no ads
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by John Anderton on 08-28-2005 at 12:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Lee Jeffery
quote:
Originally posted by John Anderton
quote:
Originally posted by x2zen
t wasn't easy, but Messenger had to make the painful decision to only support Windows XP gold and above users on this new version since the majority of our customers are running newer systems If you are running an older OS you'll have to stick with Messenger 7. Lucky for you that was a good product too. For the people running XP and above, thanks to this change we were able to clean up and get rid of a bunch of the bulk, which will result in a smaller setup package.
My point exactly .... it says "which will result in a smaller setup package." and the size has increased.

7.0.x (random)      -> 7.01 MB
7.5.x (older)          -> 7.62 MB
7.5.0299 (current) -> 8.91 MB

See what i mean :-/
Can i run the old stuffplug with big emos, unlimited emos only and no ads ?? Those are the 3 most imp things for me :)

you cant have big emos because that requires big dps to be enabled, but you can have unlimited emos and no ads

Ok then .... ill install it rite now :) Thanks Lee .... i hope TB releases the new SP soon ;)
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by x2zen on 08-28-2005 at 04:03 PM

John:
Sry mate, I read it as decreasing :P

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by natichipi on 08-30-2005 at 07:07 AM

i had the same problem... thanks to this forum i could successfuly install and run MSN 7.5.0299

THANKS!!!


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RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by John Anderton on 08-31-2005 at 11:19 AM

Wait .... when i uninstalled spng it asked me if i wanted to delete the preferences. I told it yes. Then i reinstalled it and still it doesnt work.
If i uninstall it then it works :-/

I guess ill have to work without spng till the new version comes out :cry:

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by Hank on 08-31-2005 at 11:21 AM

you didnt install the Beta of 3?

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by mwe99 on 08-31-2005 at 04:45 PM

Okay anyone have a solution? I've repaired MSN and its still crashing!

Uninstalled Stuffplug too

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by John Anderton on 08-31-2005 at 06:09 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mwe99
Okay anyone have a solution? I've repaired MSN and its still crashing!

Uninstalled Stuffplug too
Its crashing even without snpg O.o

quote:
Originally posted by Animal
you didnt install the Beta of 3?
SNPG's beta is available :S
* John Anderton checks the site ^o)
* John Anderton clicks micheals sig link :P

Ok StuffPlug-NG 2.2.397 BETA is out atm and here is what it says
quote:
Originally posted by http://www.stuffplug.com/?act=file&id=17
Small Description:
95% Compatible With MSNM 7.5
Full Description:
This BETA version makes StuffPlug-NG mostly compatible with MSN Messenger 7.5. All features except the Ignore Feature should work as expected. This version has not been through beta testing so may not be 100% reliable, but the large number of broken features forced this public beta release. English Only.

Ok ill try it and report back :)

[offtopic]Such a small topic has become a hot topic :rolleyes:[/offtopic]

Update: The new update works perfectly .... thanks
<3 the new pop up for options and info on window opened ;)
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by mwe99 on 08-31-2005 at 06:14 PM

What i get is this screen:

[Image: attachment.php?pid=525255]

really pissing me off now

ive uninstalled, reinstalled, tried older versions and the same thing

spyware scanned...

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by absorbation on 08-31-2005 at 06:16 PM

do you use ddp or dbackgrounds grounds? they make my msn go like that :sad:

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by mwe99 on 08-31-2005 at 06:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Absorbation
do you use ddp or dbackgrounds grounds? they make my msn go like that :sad:

nope i dont
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by absorbation on 08-31-2005 at 06:18 PM

unistall any skins, plugins and messenger plus! and try again :) also try using 7.0.0816 ;)

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by John Anderton on 08-31-2005 at 06:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Absorbation
unistall any skins, plugins and messenger plus! and try again :) also try using 7.0.0816 ;)

This is my config ...
Windows Version: Windows XP, 5.01.2600
Messenger Client Version: 7.5.0299
Messenger Plus! Version: 3.54.0132

Its working perfectly for me .... i dont use ddp's, dbg's or any skins. And yes (obviously!!!) i have plus :P
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by mwe99 on 08-31-2005 at 06:27 PM

Windows Version: Windows XP, 5.01.2600
Messenger Client Version: 7.5.whatever the latest is
Messenger Plus! Version: 3.54.0132

Ill try uninstalling plus

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by absorbation on 08-31-2005 at 06:28 PM

uninsatll plus without loosing prefences and plguins in add/ remove programs is there :P

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by mwe99 on 08-31-2005 at 06:31 PM

still no, it freezes/crashes

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by absorbation on 08-31-2005 at 06:37 PM

downgrade to 7.0.0816 and try again ;)

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by mwe99 on 08-31-2005 at 06:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Absorbation
downgrade to 7.0.0816 and try again ;)

done that too, ive done all the usual things, i actually got the file for 7.0 from your site
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by absorbation on 08-31-2005 at 06:40 PM

look in your msn options that anything could effect this that your pc cannot handle :P

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by mwe99 on 08-31-2005 at 06:44 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Absorbation
look in your msn options that anything could effect this that your pc cannot handle :P

such as?

it worked fine until today, i havent installed anything extra it just froze on me
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by absorbation on 08-31-2005 at 06:46 PM

virus scan i suggest then :sad:

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by mwe99 on 08-31-2005 at 06:50 PM

i would but my virus scanner froze too now

im using Symantech Security Check online for the meantime

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by absorbation on 08-31-2005 at 06:58 PM

sounds like a virus then :P i wonder which check your processer and screenshot us ;)

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by mwe99 on 08-31-2005 at 06:59 PM

well it only seems to crash MSN and McAfee Security Centre

quote:
Originally posted by Absorbation
check your processer and screenshot us ;)

Processor? or Processes in task manager?
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by absorbation on 08-31-2005 at 07:01 PM

lol sorry processes in task manager ;)

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by mwe99 on 08-31-2005 at 08:06 PM

Okay i screenshotted it but there were lots so its a word document:


Anymore help people? I can't use it on any of my PC accounts

Still NOT working! its really really annoying me now :@

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by jren207 on 08-31-2005 at 11:45 PM

You seem to have Windows Messenger running (Msmsgs.exe) it might be conflicting with MSN messenger or something, try killing it's process... *-)

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by mwe99 on 08-31-2005 at 11:46 PM

i tried that lol thats what ive been using

I did a system restore and now its working fine :)

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by thequeenofmusic on 09-01-2005 at 04:17 AM

question?
why does this version have the dp before u sign in what the point for that?

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by John Anderton on 09-01-2005 at 12:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by thequeenofmusic
question?
why does this version have the dp before u sign in what the point for that?
It just makes it look good like you can see your dp before you sign in. Then if i come and sign in on your pc (i should be a old user on your pc :P) then it'll show my dp too .... it just looks better :rolleyes:

quote:
Originally posted by mwe99
i tried that lol thats what ive been using

I did a system restore and now its working fine :)
Next time .... http://messenger.msn.com/Download ;)
And micheal .... just type (!VER) in convo, press enter ... copy all the info from your convo. Thats how i did it :P
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by thequeenofmusic on 09-01-2005 at 10:03 PM

on mine it doesn show my dp :S so i dont know what your tlaking about

RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by mwe99 on 09-01-2005 at 10:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by John Anderton
next time .... http://messenger.msn.com/Download ;)
And micheal .... just type (!VER) in convo, press enter ... copy all the info from your convo. Thats how i did it :P

Did that lol :P and spell my name right lol

oh and its crashing again... exactly the same thing again :@
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by John Anderton on 09-03-2005 at 11:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mwe99
quote:
Originally posted by John Anderton
next time .... http://messenger.msn.com/Download ;)
And micheal .... just type (!VER) in convo, press enter ... copy all the info from your convo. Thats how i did it :P

Did that lol :P and spell my name right lol

oh and its crashing again... exactly the same thing again :@
Micheal isnt the spelling ^o)
*-)
It was working then what did you reinstall ??
RE: 7.5.0299 Crashing by mwe99 on 09-03-2005 at 12:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by John Anderton
what did you reinstall ??

Michael :P

Anyway, it keeps happening and the only known way of fixing it i've found is a system restore to Aug 29