new orleans - Printable Version -Shoutbox (https://shoutbox.menthix.net) +-- Forum: MsgHelp Archive (/forumdisplay.php?fid=58) +--- Forum: General (/forumdisplay.php?fid=11) +---- Forum: General Chit Chat (/forumdisplay.php?fid=14) +----- Thread: new orleans (/showthread.php?tid=49882) new orleans by guanako on 09-02-2005 at 01:05 PM
many local residents and even some public officials are expressing frustration over what they see as the snail's pace of rescue operations. U.S. Congressman Charlie Melancon, who represents the hard-hit district in the southeastern part of the New Orleans metropolitan area, says he expected the federal government to come in faster with all the resources needed. RE: new orleans by FrozenDaggers on 09-02-2005 at 02:28 PM
It's terrible. RE: new orleans by guanako on 09-02-2005 at 04:52 PM it will take at least 1 year to build all that up again RE: new orleans by SikStyles on 09-02-2005 at 07:21 PM
quote: and not to mention a lot of money, they are even thinkin about not buildin everything up again, heard it on the news, might have heard wrong so dont quote me on this but the number of lives that were lost is terrible! RE: new orleans by steVenB on 09-02-2005 at 07:36 PM and to think that equal rights exists in the U.S.... RE: new orleans by NiteMare on 09-02-2005 at 08:29 PM
quote:they say it will be atleast 6 months before its drained RE: new orleans by guanako on 09-02-2005 at 08:41 PM there was people that thought it was a tornado and went to their basement and drawn there its soo sad RE: new orleans by evm on 09-02-2005 at 08:47 PM the us spend all the money on iraq and now they have no money to give to help new orleans RE: new orleans by Jhrono on 09-02-2005 at 09:10 PM
quote:omfg, people say shit about anything they can...If US dont give a shit about iraq, it's cause they do, if they spend money there, is cause they do... Blah! RE: new orleans by brianjdupuis on 09-02-2005 at 10:15 PM I just want to say let God be with all those people on the streets and people who are in need of food and water......Let us all pray!!! Patchou should setup some donation thing!! RE: new orleans by [MR] on 09-02-2005 at 10:31 PM
my school is donating to our sister high school in new orleans and the senoirs at my school are going over to new orleans sometime to help clean up RE: new orleans by L. Coyote on 09-02-2005 at 11:48 PM
It's horrible, indeed. To think that where my father lives, in Florida, they only faced the eye, and it was at a lower rank at the time. I'm glad he's ok and nothing big happened there. quote:Agreed 100%. Bush's ideas of spending the money are backfiring. Although, it's terribly sad it happened this way. RE: new orleans by marissa on 09-03-2005 at 12:09 AM
im glad theres gonna be a concert for this to raise money. green days playing (haha woo ) and a lot of other artists, so a lot of money will be raised from this, thank god. my dad was considering going down to help, because he does plumbing, electrition stuff and carpentry and all that stuff. i wish i could help out in a way :\ RE: new orleans by expert on 09-03-2005 at 12:19 AM that place looks like a poor place now cause of all the mess RE: new orleans by DJeX on 09-03-2005 at 12:23 AM
quote: I agree, I've been praying. I wish I could go there and help but I live in Canada and they will say that I'm probably to young. quote: It's going to get worse. RE: new orleans by brianjdupuis on 09-03-2005 at 12:46 AM Sooo Patchou is there anyway that we can setup like a donate to katrina storm thing??? on behalf of all msgplus users!! RE: new orleans by Jhrono on 09-03-2005 at 12:47 AM
quote:Hm patchou is canadian, he sure is a human being, but, wtf...why patchou??! RE: new orleans by L. Coyote on 09-03-2005 at 01:22 AM
quote:Yeah, I think he already donates enough. quote: quote:Indeed. RE: new orleans by emit on 09-03-2005 at 01:26 AM
"I am absolutely disgusted. After the tsunami our people, even the ones who lost everything, wanted to help the others who were suffering," said Sajeewa Chinthaka, 36, as he watched a cricket match in Colombo, Sri Lanka. RE: RE: new orleans by guanako on 09-03-2005 at 02:48 AM
quote:can u re-word that? , i saw on the news soldiers that just got back from irak they just get off the plane after 2 days of traveling, just to jump onto another plane goin to new orleans to help the victims. RE: new orleans by RebelSean on 09-03-2005 at 03:04 AM
quote: Source :blink:? ABC just reported that it will take MONTHS to get the water out, and well over 7 months until power is restored. This is such a horrible situation and I think, just as the Mayor of New Orleans said, the Government needs to get off there ass and get help down there now. RE: new orleans by DJeX on 09-03-2005 at 03:29 AM
I just heard on the news that the Police of New Orleans were given the order to shoot to kill andbody who is looting. RE: new orleans by *Saint* on 09-03-2005 at 03:37 AM yes i heard that too they have been told to shoot to kill, yes thats severe but also this is a time when i think they should be enforcing laws because if everyone can do as they want run around and steal things nothing can get done, they need as much order and peace as they can get and its not like people are stealing from grocery stores because im sure they are already emptied for the aid effort but no one needs new tvs furniture at this time, also its still the law and its there job to make sure its done its not there choice when its time to enforce the law or not to finally i think its the main goal of that was to scare the majority of people off of stealing and from people coming into the city to take advantage RE: new orleans by RebelSean on 09-03-2005 at 05:03 AM
What would you do if you had no water, no food, no clothes, nothing to lay on? If I were down in any part of that state and I was going through this, you can bet damn good and well I would be looting. Especially people looting to fee there families. RE: new orleans by NiteMare on 09-03-2005 at 05:08 AM
quote: ATV(part of CTV) reported that yesterday RE: new orleans by fluffy_lobster on 09-03-2005 at 06:43 PM
There's a lot I could say about this subject but I'd just like to respond to an early post here: quote:Katrina wasn't an exceptionally big hurricane. The mayhem was caused by its location... and the tragedy has been caused by an astonishingly slow reaction from the government to both the flooding and the obscene social inequalities in the USA's inner cities. Doesn't bear thinking about really RE: new orleans by RebelSean on 09-03-2005 at 10:36 PM
Before it hit Florida it was only a category 1 I believe, and after it hit it gained a crap load of strength, and was a category 4 like a day after it hit Florida. RE: new orleans by Stigmata on 09-03-2005 at 10:41 PM richest country in the world ey? RE: new orleans by Menthix on 09-04-2005 at 12:23 AM
- USA government pays loads of money to make war with Afghanistan. RE: new orleans by azn angel on 09-04-2005 at 12:24 AM what goes around comes around. RE: new orleans by Dane on 09-04-2005 at 12:26 AM
quote: Thats cause USA friggen sucks! I hate my country . At least we have a general idea of where DX might be RE: new orleans by RebelSean on 09-04-2005 at 03:46 AM
quote: Then leave if you hate the USA. And I agree with you MenthiX. But then again, I just saw on CNN that the Governor of Louisiana told the President himself that Louisiana was fine, then a day later he told Bush that they needed help !?! WTF IDIOT. RE: new orleans by guanako on 09-04-2005 at 04:52 AM i am more than suer that they are doing the best they can, another thing too, when another country suffers for any thing who is always the one that wants to help or actully helps? the US isnt it? so when something happend to the US everyone spects it to come up w. somthing big, i am not sayin that tht uS needs help but, i think it is dealing w. it like what it is. the most powerful nation on the planet. RE: new orleans by Purity on 09-04-2005 at 06:56 AM
quote:Brutal.\ Source: http://shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=49950&newsid=13...3&start=1&sparte=4 RE: new orleans by shine on 09-04-2005 at 08:37 AM
Considering the magnitude of the problem..I'm surprised why the federal govt was caught in wong foot. US deployed troops in Iraq even faster than they started aid operations. RE: new orleans by Dreth on 09-04-2005 at 08:42 AM
USA seriously needs to build better houses. Over here in Puerto Rico, some call it a third world country, our houses have resisted for decades hurracanes that come and go like an everyday thing. RE: new orleans by shine on 09-04-2005 at 08:46 AM
quote: Whole world i spouring in with helping hand..in case you are not aware.. even cuba has offerred a medical team of 500 doctors for aid mission India has donated 5 million as aid.. and other countries too.. only issue is that US has to take it to the needy as soon as possible. Quote "Meanwhile, aid is pouring in from around the world. In fact, developing nations have been the first to offer their support and their money. Sixty nations, including Cuba, have offered aid packages. India wants to give $5 million. Mexico wants to send two ships, 15 amphibious vehicles and two helicopters to help rescue victims. Thousands of Mexicans are believed to be among the 60,000 people trapped in the floodwaters in New Orleans. " Unquote RE: new orleans by user27089 on 09-04-2005 at 08:56 AM
quote: I have always thought that, a lot of my family have, their houses are made out of wood and stuff, it's really crap... To be honest, no wonder they can't resist a hurricane or forest fires and stuff, their houses are wood and paint, it's balls... If you come over to England, you won't see any american style houses over here, it's all brick and mortar, and like your country, it has withstood a lot of stuff! I do feel really sorry for the people of New Orleans though, I'm sure it will get back on it's feet, unlike other countries, the government will actually put money into this disaster. RE: new orleans by shine on 09-04-2005 at 09:28 AM Yes I have always wondered why people in us use timber and stuffs like that to build houses.. esp when US is more prone to Hurricane & twisters... Why not buid using concrete & bricks? RE: new orleans by Tasha on 09-04-2005 at 10:02 AM
It's a tragedy, but will everyone stop flaming Bush for one minute and think that he has actually done, and is still doing all he can to help? You can't blame him for a natural disaster. It has been said over here in our papers that he knows he has neglected that area, and is very sorry to see what has happened. There was even a picture of him talking to two girls, and hugging them. (No, I don't think he was doing it to keep up an image.) RE: new orleans by user27089 on 09-04-2005 at 10:10 AM I don't see why they're raping people to be honest, what's the point, does it even help at all? RE: new orleans by briosky on 09-04-2005 at 11:04 AM
It's very sad. Everything. From the power of a natural disaster to the delay in helping, as well as any form of abuse. RE: new orleans by RebelSean on 09-04-2005 at 04:42 PM
quote: No but you sure as hell can blame him for taking FOUR days to adress the nation, and start sending help. It's not totaly his fault, I'm not saying that, but taking FOUR days to start sending help? Thats a bit to long, he should have sent it the day New Orleans got hit. Not only that, it's sad when the mayor of New Orleans has to tell the president on national television to get off his ass and get the hell down there, it really is. And about him huggint those two girls, it's called a show. RE: new orleans by Tasha on 09-04-2005 at 05:00 PM
quote: Just because he's the president doesn't mean he doesn't care. And it didn't look fake to me at all. You could see concern in his face and everything, so... I don't know why he has taken the time, I really don't. Yes, he should have taken less time to do it, but have you ever run a country? Not saying I have, but you would need time to get things organised. RE: new orleans by Dreth on 09-04-2005 at 09:51 PM
With all due respect to everyone here, USA is the self-proclaimed most powerful nation in the world. It took action in the whole Tsunami Incident faster than the New Orleans thing. RE: new orleans by *Saint* on 09-04-2005 at 11:36 PM theres more than just bush who runs this rescue effort and i doubt he really is the guy in charge because he isnt a rescue and disaster expert and only knows what he is told his, a figure head who everyone is blaming. RE: new orleans by buzz on 09-05-2005 at 02:59 AM
quote:in a state of disaster its common to forget everythig and turn to and act on your instincts and needs. this acctually happend alot back when the jews were being taken to consentration camps by train, people were killing eachother for water/food and alot of jews where raping eachother for no real reason... i personally dont think they should re-build because the same thing will happend again...its a fairly new city. RE: new orleans by *Saint* on 09-05-2005 at 03:28 AM
new orleans isnt new at all its a historic city thats also probably why so much damage happened because most of it is really old RE: new orleans by paperless on 09-06-2005 at 10:15 AM
quote: Well... its his obligation, he is the president, besides all he has to do is sit in a chair to make some phone calls, apear on TV and newspapers with that monkey face and go to new orleans choose two random girls and walk around with them to pretend he is very sad about it. Yeah its a natural disaster but the reason why the help wasnt faster was because of the pointless war in Iraq, what was it for? First was for the mass destruction and when they "discovered" there were no such weapons they said it was to save Iraqi people from the hands of a heartless dictator. So, now what? They are free now leave them alone, all the bombings are because of US presence when they leave everything will follow the natural course of things. I dont exactly know if US want the oil or conquer iraq or wtfe but they were wasting precious troups on Iraq. Bush's main purpose is to stop the terrorism and stuff blah blah blah. 11/9 killed around 3000 people, Katrina 10.000+ and what surprises me is that the world in general seemed to be way more worried about 11/9 than about this disaster, oh i got it yeah, most people in new orleans are black and kinda poor. I think they should rebuild the city but not in a point that will totally eliminate the traces of the hurricane they could let some flooded canals like in venice or something, that will add a special touch to the city and if it is an historical city, even better. From http://www.thebushpresidency.org/index.htm RE: new orleans by saralk on 09-06-2005 at 11:30 AM
My heart goes out to anyone affected by this. RE: new orleans by guanako on 09-06-2005 at 12:53 PM they are totally different situations. RE: new orleans by paperless on 09-06-2005 at 02:35 PM
quote: Both need money. RE: new orleans by saralk on 09-06-2005 at 02:47 PM
quote: no they are not, after a terrorist attack, the people involved in the attack will have similar needs. Terrorists work in very unpredictable ways, the use of biological weapons could mean that all water and food within a city is unconsumable, and the government would need to evacuate the area and make sure there is clean water and the people have access to food. Furthermore, with a terrorist attack, there will be no prior warning and people will be worried that a second attack could happen imminently increasing the fear. At least with Katrina, people had plenty of warning and we knew very roughly what to expect RE: new orleans by guanako on 09-06-2005 at 03:47 PM
the goverment wouoldnt have to do so much if people would have listen, most of them were warned, but they thought it wouldnt hit them hard enough and see now where they are, RE: new orleans by saralk on 09-06-2005 at 04:30 PM
quote: the authorities told them to evacuate, that was it. A large proportion of New Orelean's inhabitants lived below the poverty line (38%), 27% of households didn't have private transportation and no provisions were made for people who were unable to move because they were elderly, disabled or had no access to transport. RE: new orleans by guanako on 09-06-2005 at 05:59 PM we have something call tv, and radio, where u can hear/watch news RE: RE: new orleans by Garndell on 09-06-2005 at 06:01 PM
quote: I've seen people looting TV's, Video Recorders etc... how in hell are they gonna be of use? Besides, the Police are no better http://www.zippyvideos.com./8911023771013466/coun...looting-in-walmart Clinton was saying how the defenses were supposed to have been upgraded yet somehow they never did after Bush got in, perhaps Bush never read the reports on the investigation of the defenses, more likely he thought it a waste of money. Marilyn Manson called New Orleans "the cess pit of america" and that's something I gotta agree with, what with the dead bodies floating around and all. RE: new orleans by guanako on 09-06-2005 at 06:06 PM wow that video, and who knows what else went or is goin down over there sad just sad RE: new orleans by Exca on 09-06-2005 at 06:06 PM Bush always says "lower taxes, lower taxes", and now happenes this and there is no money to enforce the area there you go with lower taxes. He gives shit about the population. Clinton had 4% of the people who were workless, since Bush it is now already 8%. He spends 11000$ on weapons a day. Jezus. What a labile system. And the weaponindustry is so powerfull in Amerika, glad i'm not living there, when you open a bankaccount you get a gun! omg RE: new orleans by Stigmata on 09-06-2005 at 06:10 PM
thing that i dont get is why everyone is concerned about new orleans... RE: new orleans by guanako on 09-06-2005 at 06:16 PM well wasnt it the one that got hit the hardest? and the most affected? but we are more concern about the everyone that was affected RE: new orleans by Stigmata on 09-06-2005 at 06:17 PM
quote: i see no news stories about anywhere else.. annoyes me to honest. never looking at the bigger picture, only what is right in front of them. RE: new orleans by guanako on 09-06-2005 at 06:21 PM well thats up to the media, and u know they cant just put anything on the air, companies like NBC,CNN are controlled by bigger people thats one of the reasons why in the US some of the international news are filter before they are given to the publc. RE: new orleans by *Saint* on 09-06-2005 at 06:21 PM
they are concentrating on New Orleans because it is the Major City in the area and one of the worst hit so more people and lots of damage means its the priority plus if they can fix it up a bit they can maybe still use the some of the cities services like the hospitals and equipment RE: new orleans by saralk on 09-06-2005 at 06:26 PM
quote: what has that got anything to do with not having the right provisions to get out of the city. The government should have provided buses and other ways to get out of the city. RE: new orleans by Tasha on 09-06-2005 at 06:55 PM
Despite what Bush may have done wrong, despite the fact that he could've given help quicker, I have made a kinda poem dedicated to all effected by Hurricane Katrina. quote: RE: new orleans by Stigmata on 09-06-2005 at 07:06 PM
quote: id prefere a bit on everywhere RE: RE: new orleans by Exca on 09-06-2005 at 07:51 PM
quote: Nice poem , you should send it to bush imo... RE: new orleans by Pr0xY on 09-06-2005 at 08:58 PM
quote:I guess you weren't watching the news when they showed the huge trucks bringing in all sorts of supply's into the city. Like How many miles long was the line of suply trucks again? hmm... USA letting down the people? I think not. Plus, it was the choice of most of the people in that city to stay there. They were worned a good 2 days ahead of time. RE: new orleans by saralk on 09-06-2005 at 09:01 PM
quote: and how many days after hurricane katrina struck did this happen? RE: new orleans by RebelSean on 09-06-2005 at 09:12 PM
quote: Support from like the red cross, and non-federal agencies came after it hit. Support from the Government took 3-4 days . RE: new orleans by DJeX on 09-06-2005 at 09:20 PM
I just watched the Oprah Winfrey show on the damage in New Orleans, she went there and interviewed people and showed in the superdome after the people had left. RE: new orleans by M73A on 09-06-2005 at 09:23 PM
apparently Michael Jackson is releasing a charity song to help.... called From The Bottom Of My Heart.... RE: new orleans by LittleK on 09-07-2005 at 08:48 PM
News today, women on top of a building shouted down to policemen for help, they said if you show us your breasts, when they refused, the policemen said fine and drove off on thier boat... |