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4yrs Later - September 11th by _Humphreys on 09-11-2005 at 06:02 PM
United States honours victims of Sept. 11 attacks
CTV.ca News Staff
Across the United States, ceremonies are honouring the memories of the nearly 3,000 victims who died when terrorists launched a bloody attack on American soil on Sept. 11, 2001.
"Today, again, we are a city that meets in sadness. We come here to remember the names of those we lost four years ago," said New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who opened the ceremony at Ground Zero, where the World World Trade Center once stood.
"The greatest honour we can do them, is to remember them, not just as they were in death, but as they were in life."
More than 600 brothers and sisters of the dead recited the names of their siblings, some adding personal messages.
"You're still our hero, please keep watching over us," Elizabeth Ahearn said to her brother, fire lieutenant Brian Ahearn.
In the crowd of hundreds gathered to grieve the victims, some wept silently while others held aloft photos of their loved ones.
Mourners across New York paused for a minute's silence at 8:46 a.m. ET when the first hijacked jetliner hit the World Trade Center's north tower on Sept. 11, 2001.
At that moment, New York firefighters on duty in flood-ravaged New Orleans gathered around a makeshift memorial for their fallen comrades.
Meanwhile in New York, the ceremony was interrupted three more times to mark the south tower attack, and the times each tower collapsed.
On Sunday night, two shafts of light representing the twin towers will be beamed into the night sky from lower Manhattan. The "Tribute in Light" will fade away at dawn on Monday.
In Washington on Sunday, U.S. President George Bush was joined on the White House lawn by Vice President Dick Cheney and their wives to remember the tragedy.
They observed a moment of silence followed by a military tribute, in a ceremony that has been repeated each year since the attacks.
Memorial services are healing for families of the victims, says Maureen Basnicki, a Canadian who lost her husband Ken four years ago.
"We are a special family facing death in a way that nobody else had to," she told CTV Newsnet, speaking from New York.
"There is a greater deal of circumstances, trauma attached, the publicity, and to come together with other people really, really helps."
Meanwhile in Canada, Prime Minister Paul Martin joined U.S. Ambassador David Wilkins in paying tribute to the victims of the attacks.
At a gathering of about 200 dignitaries at the American embassy, Martin said it's important for all civilized peoples to commemorate those who perished in the attacks four years ago.
"We remember our loss. We mourn with the United States, our friends," Martin said in an earlier statement.
"And we celebrate the resilience of the American spirit, which we have seen endures, and indeed grows stronger, in the face of their calamity and grief."
In Italy, Pope Benedict marked the anniversary of the tragedy by calling for a global renunciation of hatred.
"Today, 11 September, we remember the victims of terrorist violence throughout the world," Benedict said in English at the papal summer palace at Castel Gandolfo.
"May God inspire men and women of goodwill everywhere to renounce hatred and to build a world of justice, solidarity and peace."
It's been 4 years since Sept. 11th and without trying to upset anyone I want to pay respect to those who died in this terrible disaster. May you Rest In Peace.
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by DragonX on 09-11-2005 at 06:05 PM
* DragonX holds a minute of silence
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by Millenium_edition on 09-11-2005 at 06:24 PM
not wanting to sound rude, but...
every day people die for worse reasons than political nonsense or religion-discriminating crap. it's not because it's your (not aimed at anyone) big nation that we have to be sad every 11th of September, every year again and again.
they're dead, get over it. unless you lost relatives you shouldn't be whining about it and not about all those other people who die every day.
sorry if this post hurts someone, but it's my point of view and should certainely not be taken in an offensive way
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by hmaster on 09-11-2005 at 07:04 PM
quote:I do agree with you to a certain extent but daaamn, that was harshly worded!
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
not wanting to sound rude, but...
every day people die for worse reasons than political nonsense or religion-discriminating crap. it's not because it's your (not aimed at anyone) big nation that we have to be sad every 11th of September, every year again and again.
they're dead, get over it. unless you lost relatives you shouldn't be whining about it and not about all those other people who die every day.
sorry if this post hurts someone, but it's my point of view and should certainely not be taken in an offensive way
Its like saying we have to have a minute silence everyday to all those people that have died on this day and the next day and the next day and so on...
By only remembering those that passed away on 9/11 its unfair that you dont remember those who died on 8/11 or 29/8, get my point?
No, they should not be forgotten, nor should the whole issue, but holding silences, putting X, 9/11,
in front of nicks, making public speeches and w/e is not always needed.And yeh, sorry if this is offensive...
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by L. Coyote on 09-11-2005 at 07:09 PM
quote:Yeah, I agree 100% with M_e, although it sounded kind of harsh.
Originally posted by hmaster
quote:I do agree with you to a certain extent but daaamn, that was harshly worded!
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
not wanting to sound rude, but...
every day people die for worse reasons than political nonsense or religion-discriminating crap. it's not because it's your (not aimed at anyone) big nation that we have to be sad every 11th of September, every year again and again.
they're dead, get over it. unless you lost relatives you shouldn't be whining about it and not about all those other people who die every day.
sorry if this post hurts someone, but it's my point of view and should certainely not be taken in an offensive way
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by hmaster on 09-11-2005 at 07:11 PM
Edited my previous post, maybe thats worded better, or is it just as bad :/?
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by zaher1988 on 09-11-2005 at 07:30 PM
Well we are all sorry for everyone !! all who died and all the left behind famillies !. but dont forget the causes that made it reach that point! even though this not the way things should be solved by!.. Humans were born with mind a brain!, so that they can deal with each others, and talk !.not only for murder!
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by Anubis on 09-11-2005 at 08:12 PM
Every year it gets less and less publicity, 9\11 is starting to become part of our history, and it has led to a lot of developments in recent years. If that attack didn't take place it would have shaped the early years of the 21st Century differently. But more people have died in conflicts over the years than in one terrorist attack that just made a lot of people hate terrorism a lot more.
The attacks shouldn't be remembered with the melodrama that a lot of people do, but more of a feeling of wishing terrorists would just learn that they are being pathetic and are taking peoples lives needlessly.
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by mad_onion on 09-11-2005 at 08:42 PM
i dont have a problem with people mourning their dead like (like m_e seems to) but i do hate it that the people who died are always called the heros of 9/11 when they did absolutely nothing except die (oh wow that deserves a round of applause) of the firefighters are heros. mabye heros is something different in the US?
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by qgroessl on 09-11-2005 at 09:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mad_onion
i dont have a problem with people mourning their dead like (like m_e seems to) but i do hate it that the people who died are always called the heros of 9/11 when they did absolutely nothing except die (oh wow that deserves a round of applause) of the firefighters are heros. mabye heros is something different in the US?
The firefighters, policemen, rescue people are all heroes because they were running in the towers when everybody else was running out... They tried to go in and save the people in there.
quote:
Originally posted by Anubis
The attacks shouldn't be remembered with the melodrama that a lot of people do
Agreed there... but the rest of the people saying a bunch of shit like... alot of people died that day, whoopee get over it...... I'm sure a bunch of you are from London..... And this isn't trying to be offending to anybody from there... but it's the same as the London Bombings... Next year I'm sure there'll be some sort of memorial service... and that didn't have nearly as much loss of life as 9/11...
On a final note... The amount of mourning is getting less and less every year. There's still publicity about it.... and there are still a few ceremonys... But it's really no different than Pearl Harbor, or any other historical event like that...
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by Joe on 09-11-2005 at 09:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
not wanting to sound rude, but...
every day people die for worse reasons than political nonsense or religion-discriminating crap. it's not because it's your (not aimed at anyone) big nation that we have to be sad every 11th of September, every year again and again.
they're dead, get over it. unless you lost relatives you shouldn't be whining about it and not about all those other people who die every day.
sorry if this post hurts someone, but it's my point of view and should certainely not be taken in an offensive way
Belgian..
I'm sure there are some things in Belgian history that are often frowned upon as such.
RE: RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by Voldemort on 09-12-2005 at 12:06 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mad_onion
i dont have a problem with people mourning their dead like (like m_e seems to) but i do hate it that the people who died are always called the heros of 9/11 when they did absolutely nothing except die (oh wow that deserves a round of applause) of the firefighters are heros. mabye heros is something different in the US?
i think it is....
btw, not making fun or anything put 3 people die every sec in all the world..
i think we shoould be giving them a min of silence not ppl who died
126,230,400 a go. get over it, unless a relative of yours died.
should we hold a 3 minutes of silence for every sec? 3 pp; die each sec.
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by qgroessl on 09-12-2005 at 01:09 AM
quote:
Originally posted by damm-o
3 people die every sec in all the world..
2/3 of them die of natural causes.... These people died many years before they had to because terrorists.
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by emit on 09-12-2005 at 01:19 AM
If we go by magnitude we should hold a daily minute's silence for all the jews that were gassed in the second world war. Their suffering was not confined to a single date.
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by qgroessl on 09-12-2005 at 01:30 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Time
If we go by magnitude we should hold a daily minute's silence for all the jews that were gassed in the second world war. Their suffering was not confined to a single date.
I'd agree... but not everyday... It should have it's own day of the year to mourn for them... and to celebrate the ones who made it out.
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by uberdosis on 09-12-2005 at 02:18 AM
I agree with Millenium_edition. Get over it.
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by linx05 on 09-12-2005 at 04:29 AM
I totally forgot about it 
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by Pr0xY on 09-12-2005 at 04:55 AM
quote:No. Just because people die for worse reasons does not mean we should not take a day (or atleast a moment for Christ sakes) to remember them. When a family member dies, you always hold a small memorial for them each year (I just did this weekend for a family member), so why is this any different?
Originally posted by uberdosis
I agree with Millenium_edition. Get over it.
Just because what happened on September 11th didn't effect you personally doesn't mean it didn't effect other people. Someone lost their father on this day. Someone lost their mother on this day. What if it was your father or mother that died? How easy would it be for YOU to get over it if you saw actually pictures from that day, of your family member falling to their death? Those thoughts & images imprinted into your brain forever. I know personally, its something that you never forget.
For God sakes, for my sake, show some respect.
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by expert on 09-12-2005 at 05:15 AM
quote:ya i agree but then again im frome canada
Originally posted by Pr0xY
quote:No. Just because people die for worse reasons does not mean we should not take a day (or atleast a moment for Christ sakes) to remember them. When a family member dies, you always hold a small memorial for them each year (I just did this weekend for a family member), so why is this any different?
Originally posted by uberdosis
I agree with Millenium_edition. Get over it.
Just because what happened on September 11th didn't effect you personaly doesn't mean it didn't effect other people. Have some respect.
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by Millenium_edition on 09-12-2005 at 02:59 PM
quote:doesn't make me care for them
Originally posted by jow cool
Belgian..
I'm sure there are some things in Belgian history that are often frowned upon as such.
quote:because they're not our family?
Originally posted by Pr0xY
When a family member dies, you always hold a small memorial for them each year (I just did this weekend for a family member), so why is this any different?
quote:well then feel free to be sad about it, i have no problem with that whatsoever, but please, don't go on the news saying your grandma died
Originally posted by Pr0xY
Just because what happened on September 11th didn't effect you personally doesn't mean it didn't effect other people. Someone lost their father on this day. Someone lost their mother on this day. What if it was your father or mother that died? How easy would it be for YOU to get over it if you saw actually pictures from that day, of your family member falling to their death? Those thoughts & images imprinted into your brain forever. I know personally, its something that you never forget.
quote:how is that disrespectful?
Originally posted by Pr0xY
For God sakes, for my sake, show some respect.
quote:then why don't we celebrate leonardo da vinci's birthday and funeral every year, because after all, the whole humanity owes him a lot of inventions.
Originally posted by Anubis
The attacks shouldn't be remembered with the melodrama that a lot of people do, but more of a feeling of wishing terrorists would just learn that they are being pathetic and are taking peoples lives needlessly.
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by guanako on 09-12-2005 at 03:44 PM
most of the people that say 'get over it' are not living in the us, so most of them dont know how 9/11 changed the country
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by hmaster on 09-12-2005 at 03:47 PM
quote:9/11 changed the UK too doesnt mean I have to do anything =/
Originally posted by guanako
most of the people that say 'get over it' are not living in the us, so most of them dont know how 9/11 changed the country
I didnt say 'get over it' and it doesnt mean i dont think it was bad/a big tragedy!
RE: RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by Anubis on 09-12-2005 at 03:51 PM
quote:I really don't get your point there...
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
quote:then why don't we celebrate leonardo da vinci's birthday and funeral every year, because after all, the whole humanity owes him a lot of inventions.
Originally posted by Anubis
The attacks shouldn't be remembered with the melodrama that a lot of people do, but more of a feeling of wishing terrorists would just learn that they are being pathetic and are taking peoples lives needlessly.
quote:Indeed, to say the attacks only had a big impact the USA would be naïve, many Americans think that their country was the only one affected because they don’t actually look at the world picture. It changed a lot of things in nearly every country. It was the first large attack of the new Al Qaeda, which meant that the whole world had to change to defend against their cowardly honourless attacks.
Originally posted by hmaster
9/11 changed the UK too doesnt mean I have to do anything =/
I didnt say 'get over it' and it doesnt mean i dont think it was bad/a big tragedy!
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by Millenium_edition on 09-12-2005 at 04:15 PM
quote:my point is that there is no reason whatsoever to make a hype around it
Originally posted by Anubis
I really don't get your point there...
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by hmaster on 09-12-2005 at 04:39 PM
quote:I still dont get where the evidence is that its them, or is there
Originally posted by Anubis
new Al Qaeda
but yeah your right, many other countries have been affected
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by J C C on 09-12-2005 at 07:26 PM
Is this the wrong time to say september 11th is my birthday?
It's awkward when you tell people that because everyone already associates september 11th with something extremely bad! My point is, even though most people have not been directly affected by the events on september 11th (my condolences to the people who have) even people here in England associate 11/9/01 with something that shook the world. I believe that America took the bombings of the 11th far too seriously, and a lot of complicated political incentives were hidden behind the events. What I mean is that America pounced on the event as a beginning of their war on terror, which is still going strong today. So strong infact that they were far too busy spending $billions on the war on terror, to spend any on improving the flood defences of New Orleans which may have reduced the damage caused by hurricane Katrina!
By dwelling in the past over terrorist events, aren't we actually reacting exactly how the terrorists want us to react? In effect America make such a big deal of the 11th every year because they are scared of another terrorist attack (having not endured many attacks on their home turf before!) I think America should strive to move forwards, much like London and Manchester did after the IRA bombings. Manchester used the bombings to start an urban renewal program which benefits the centre to this day!
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by Pr0xY on 09-13-2005 at 05:26 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
how is that disrespectful?
quote:How is that not disrespectful.
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
they're dead, get over it.
This is one of those topics where if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by Millenium_edition on 09-13-2005 at 03:03 PM
quote:it was aimed at the people who didn't lose anyone but are whining about the thousands of people who died
Originally posted by Pr0xY
How is that not disrespectful.
how is that disrespectful?quote:haha, that lame excuse again
Originally posted by Pr0xY
This is one of those topics where if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by guanako on 09-13-2005 at 04:20 PM
true if you have nathing to do w/ it why bother to comment? kke p it to ur self and dont make anyone feel bad
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by L. Coyote on 09-13-2005 at 04:26 PM
Right, if someone's opinion makes you feel bad or your opinion makes others feel bad, then no one say what they think.
Deal?
General question, not directed at anyone in particular!
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by Millenium_edition on 09-13-2005 at 04:50 PM
quote:it's called an opinion? if everyone thinks that way, this thread wouldn't even get posted because it would have disturbed me
Originally posted by guanako
true if you have nathing to do w/ it why bother to comment? kke p it to ur self and dont make anyone feel bad
(i don't know how i managed to understand your post thought)
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by guanako on 09-13-2005 at 04:52 PM
i thought the thread was to tell how u think things are or have change after 4 years, not to say.. oh shut up no one cares, get over it
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by Millenium_edition on 09-13-2005 at 05:02 PM
(sorry to the people who prepared a reply to my recently deleted post)
quote:if it's posted to tell how you think, isn't that an opinion?
Originally posted by guanako
i thought the thread was to tell how u think things are or have change after 4 years, not to say.. oh shut up no one cares, get over it
RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by RebelSean on 09-13-2005 at 09:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
quote:
Originally posted by Pr0xY
quote:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
how is that disrespectful?quote:How is that not disrespectful.
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
they're dead, get over it.
This is one of those topics where if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
quote:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
quote:my point is that there is no reason whatsoever to make a hype around it
Originally posted by Anubis
I really don't get your point there...
There is no one going around telling everyone, OMG FEEL BAD FOR US ; DON'T DO ANYTHING ON 9/11 ; CRY ALL DAY 9/11. You do not live in the USA, and you do NOT know how it affected Americans. Not EVERY single American greives over this, four years later. No one is asking you to feel sorry for us, and if you don't then you are not human. Indeed this was a disasterous event that happend 4 years ago, but that does not mean that people should and cannot greive about it.
Most people who greive on this day are the THOUSANDS of families who lost there child, grandchild, wife, husdband, etc etc.
quote:
Originally posted by Pr0xY
quote:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
how is that disrespectful?quote:How is that not disrespectful.
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
they're dead, get over it.
This is one of those topics where if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
Agreed
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RE: 4yrs Later - September 11th by shine on 09-14-2005 at 09:24 AM
I agree with ME 
He said it as it is... if you try to remember all the disaster that happened till date you have to mourn everyday. Hundereds of people are dying everyday in similar incidents. Today 100 people died... doing it with planes does not score over doing it with cars..its lives that lost.
Let us work for peace..at least for next generation