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dual monitors by Lou on 09-24-2005 at 11:25 PM

I got 2 free monitors today. Both being 17 inch but one being newer. I took the newer one and attached it to my computer's mother board monitor slot and turned the computer on. However I only get image from my normal video card [monitor I had before]. How can I unable both video cards and monitors?

any help appreciated.


RE: dual monitors by Stigmata on 09-24-2005 at 11:34 PM

Control Panel -> Display -> Settings


RE: dual monitors by Lou on 09-24-2005 at 11:46 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Stigmata
Control Panel -> Display -> Settings
The other screen doesnt show up anywhere there. If you could go in more detail please. Thanks in advance
RE: dual monitors by Supersonicdarky on 09-25-2005 at 12:10 AM

quote:
Originally posted by lou_habs
2 free monitors

how? :S

did u plug the monitor before or after you turned on the pc?
RE: dual monitors by Lou on 09-25-2005 at 12:26 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Supersonicdarky
how? :S

did u plug the monitor before or after you turned on the pc?
how? uncle....

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I turned off pc, pluged monitor that I got into the mother board video slot and then turned it on with no luck:(
RE: dual monitors by Supersonicdarky on 09-25-2005 at 12:49 AM

does your video card support dual monitors? if not, get another video card


RE: dual monitors by Lou on 09-25-2005 at 01:09 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Supersonicdarky
does your video card support dual monitors? if not, get another video card
2 different video cards.

mother board one.

Other video card.
RE: dual monitors by Supersonicdarky on 09-25-2005 at 01:09 AM

suppoerting video cards:

quote:
Company Name                 Device Name

3DFx                         Voodoo3 2000 AGP
3DFx                         Voodoo3 2000
3DFx                         Voodoo3 3000 AGP
3DFx                         Voodoo3 3000
3DFx                         Voodoo3 3500 TV
3DFx                         Voodoo4 4500 AGP
3DFx                         Voodoo4 4500
3DFx                         Voodoo5 5500 AGP
3DFx                         Voodoo5 5500
3DLabs Inc.                  3DLabs Permedia2 Compatible Graphics Adapter
3DLabs Inc.                  3DLabs Permedia2 Compatible Graphics Adapter
3DLabs Inc                   3DLabs Oxygen VX1 AGP
3DLabs Inc.                  3DLabs Oxygen VX1 PCI
3DLabs Inc.                  3DLabs Oxygen VX1 1600SW
3DLabs Inc.                  3DLabs Permedia3 Create!
Accel Graphics               Accel Graphics AccelStar II AGP
Accel Graphics               Accel Graphics AccelStar II
Appian Graphics              Jeronimo Pro
ATI Technologies, Inc.       RADEON DDR
ATI Technologies, Inc        RADEON SDR
ATI Technologies, Inc.       All-in-Wonder Radeon AGP
ATI Technologies, Inc.       All-in-Wonder Radeon SDR AGP
ATI Technologies, Inc.       All-in-Wonder Radeon PCI
ATI Technologies, Inc.       RADEON VE
ATI Technologies, Inc.       RADEON M6
ATI Technologies, Inc.       RAGE 128 AIW AGP
ATI Technologies, Inc.       RAGE 128 AIW PCI
ATI Technologies, Inc.       RAGE 128 GL AGP
ATI Technologies, Inc.       RAGE 128 GL PCI
ATI Technologies, Inc.       RAGE 128 VR AGP
ATI Technologies, Inc.       RAGE 128 VR PCI
ATI Technologies, Inc.       RAGE 128 4X AGP
ATI Technologies, Inc.       RAGE 128 4X PCI
ATI Technologies, Inc.       RAGE 128 PRO PCI
ATI Technologies, Inc.       RAGE 128 PRO AGP 2X
ATI Technologies, Inc.       RAGE 128 PRO AGP 4X
Creative Labs, Inc.          Graphics Blaster Extreme
Creative Labs, Inc.          Graphics Blaster Extreme
Diamond Multimedia           Fire GL1000 Pro AGP
Diamond Multimedia           Fire GL1000 Pro
Digital                      Comet
Elsa                         GLoria Synergy AGP
Elsa                         WINNER 2000/Office AGP
Elsa                         GLoria Synergy
Elsa                         WINNER 2000/Office
Leadtek                      Winfast 3D L2300 AGP
Leadtek                      Winfast 3D L2300
Matrox                       Millennium G200 SD PCI
Matrox                       Marvel G200 PCI
Matrox                       MGA-G200 AGP
Matrox                       Mystique G200 AGP
Matrox                       Millennium G200 AGP
Matrox                       Marvel G200 AGP
Matrox                       Mystique G200 VIDEO AGP
Matrox                       Millennium G200 SG AGP
Matrox                       Millennium G200 SG LE AGP
Matrox                       Mystique G200 SD AGP
Matrox                       Millennium G200 SD AGP
Matrox                       Millennium G250 AGP
Matrox                       Millennium G250 LE AGP
Matrox                       G400 AGP
Matrox                       Marvel G400 AGP
Matrox                       Millennium G400 DualHead Max
Matrox                       Millennium G400 DualHead
Matrox                       Millennium G450 DualHead
Matrox                       Millennium G450 DualHead LE
Matrox                       Millennium G450 DualHead PCI
NVidia                       Riva TNT
NVidia                       Riva TNT2
NVidia                       Vanta
NVidia                       Riva TNT2 Ultra
NVidia                       Aladin TNT2
NVidia                       Riva TNT2 Model 64
NVidia                       GeForce 256
NVidia                       GeForce DDR
NVidia                       Quadro
NVidia                       GeForce2 GTS
NVidia                       GeForce2 Pro
NVidia                       GeForce2 Ultra
NVidia                       Quadro2 Pro
NVidia                       GeForce2 MX
NVidia                       GeForce2 Go
NVidia                       Quadro2 MXR
NVidia                       Geforce3

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;296538
RE: dual monitors by Lou on 09-25-2005 at 01:19 AM

code:
ATI Technologies, Inc.       RAGE 128 PRO AGP 4X

is what I have. and my mother board is one for intel pentium 3

[edit: I was able to update my drivers, and it detects the other screen. I am trying to install the proper periphirics for the newly installed screen and then see what happens. I will probably try it with the other free monitor I got.

edit 2: doesnt work with either screens at all..it doesn't detect the drivers.
RE: dual monitors by Hank on 09-25-2005 at 02:59 AM

has it actually uninstalled the hardware device from  if you go to Control panel > Systems icon > Hardware tab > Device manager > an look in there for the offending device


RE: dual monitors by Lou on 09-25-2005 at 03:16 AM

well it seems like it doesnt detect my mother board's video slot :S


RE: dual monitors by -dt- on 09-25-2005 at 03:33 AM

:-/ I was pretty sure that if you used a video card the motherboards one "turned off" so it wouldnt do weird things with the inserted video card....

:P just buy a cheap pci video card (presuming you have an agp one atm) and just plug it into pci slot then plug one of your monitors to it and bang it should work.


RE: dual monitors by Lou on 09-25-2005 at 01:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by -dt-
:-/ I was pretty sure that if you used a video card the motherboards one "turned off" so it wouldnt do weird things with the inserted video card....

:P just buy a cheap pci video card (presuming you have an agp one atm) and just plug it into pci slot then plug one of your monitors to it and bang it should work.
I think my current one is pci. However a friend of mine is going to give me an agp one with two slots on tuesday so that should fix the problem.
RE: dual monitors by qune on 09-25-2005 at 04:09 PM

operating with 2 monitors simultaneously requires a videocard that has the additional DVI output...


RE: dual monitors by TylerG on 09-25-2005 at 09:50 PM

Your computer might not have enough power to support to video cards at once:-/


RE: RE: dual monitors by CookieRevised on 09-25-2005 at 10:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lou_habs
well it seems like it doesnt detect my mother board's video slot :S

You need to enable it again (before installing drivers).

Either in your BIOS or either even by setting a specific jumper on your motherboard (which is of course seriously depening on what type of mobo you have).

It even can be that you need to configure the drivers for the already existing graphics cards so they don't turn off the mobo graphics cards. Or, set a jumper on your graphics card. Again, all depends on what hardware and software you got.

The main thing is, you first need to enable the integrated graphics on your mobo (and of course first check if your mobo supports using the integrated graphics and an external graphics card simultaniously)


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quote:
Originally posted by -dt-
:-/ I was pretty sure that if you used a video card the motherboards one "turned off" so it wouldnt do weird things with the inserted video card....
Not always, and highly depends on mobo, graphics card and the various drivers you use

quote:
Originally posted by -dt-
:P just buy a cheap pci video card (presuming you have an agp one atm) and just plug it into pci slot then plug one of your monitors to it and bang it should work.
That really shouldn't be nessecairly (although it might work; but if this works, then there is no reason why using the integrated graphics on the mobo shouldn't work in the first place)

quote:
Originally posted by qune
operating with 2 monitors simultaneously requires a videocard that has the additional DVI output...
That's nonsense. The DVI output is simply another type of plug then the older VGA plugs, that's all. It has got nothing to do with the ability of dual monitoring or whatever.

A graphics card can have:
1 VGA port
2 VGA ports
1 DVI port
2 DVI ports
1 VGA and 1 DVI port
etc...

quote:
Originally posted by TylerG
Your computer might not have enough power to support to video cards at once:-/
That is extremely unlikely for the average user. It is only when you use two high powered high-end graphics card that you may stumble across this. And in the case that you can afford such graphics card, and actually have a use for them, you also most likely also have a big power supply (+300W), again ruling out such an event of having too less power...

And even then, if all hardware things were set correctly and before you plugged in the monitor and installed the drivers, the second card would still be 'reconized' by Windows (enough power or not).
RE: RE: RE: dual monitors by qune on 09-25-2005 at 10:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
That's nonsense. The DVI output is simply another type of plug then the older VGA plugs, that's all. It has got nothing to do with the ability of dual monitoring or whatever.

A graphics card can have:
1 VGA port
2 VGA ports
1 DVI port
2 DVI ports
1 VGA and 1 DVI port
etc...
the most common widely spread graphic cards have 1 vga and another dvi output for dual monitoring... it's also the cheapest and fool-proof way in most cases...
RE: dual monitors by CookieRevised on 09-25-2005 at 10:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by qune
it's also the cheapest and fool-proof way in most cases...
cheapest? nope... it also isn't the cheapest in manufactering it. Fool-proof? howso? the only 'fool-proof' thing about it is that you can only plug in a certain type of monitor, not really what I call fool-proof (rather a "damn, now I also need a more expensive monitor which supports DVI")...

You can't do nothing wrong by plugging monitor A in port B or whatever if both ports are of the same type. It's not like a monitor can only be used as primary or secondary monitor; it simply displays what is being output on the port it is plugged in... So this hasn't got anything todo with being fool-proof (as in prevent you from doing something wrong).

The reason why such cards have 1 VGA and 1 DVI port is for compatibility; not for fool-proofing something. New, modern, (and slightly more expensive monitors) have a DVI port instead of a VGA port. To serve both type of costumers (the ones with "older" VGA monitors and the ones with modern DVI monitors) they include both types of ports on their cards. The ability to use them as dual monitors is only an added bonus.

That's also why there are graphics cards with both the types of plugs but without dual monitoring support; it's either DVI or VGA, and not always both...
RE: dual monitors by Lou on 09-25-2005 at 11:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
quote:
Originally posted by qune
it's also the cheapest and fool-proof way in most cases...
cheapest? nope... it also isn't the cheapest in manufactering it. Fool-proof? howso? the only 'fool-proof' thing about it is that you can only plug in a certain type of monitor, not really what I call fool-proof (rather a "damn, now I also need a more expensive monitor which supports DVI")...

You can't do nothing wrong by plugging monitor A in port B or whatever if both ports are of the same type. It's not like a monitor can only be used as primary or secondary monitor; it simply displays what is being output on the port it is plugged in... So this hasn't got anything todo with being fool-proof (as in prevent you from doing something wrong).

The reason why such cards have 1 VGA and 1 DVI port is for compatibility; not for fool-proofing something. New, modern, (and slightly more expensive monitors) have a DVI port instead of a VGA port. To serve both type of costumers (the ones with "older" VGA monitors and the ones with modern DVI monitors) they include both types of ports on their cards. The ability to use them as dual monitors is only an added bonus.

That's also why there are graphics cards with both the types of plugs but without dual monitoring support; it's either DVI or VGA, and not always both...
If I post my mother board info and everything tommorow, could you explain to me what I need to do? [I will also post my bios information]
RE: dual monitors by ShawnZ on 09-26-2005 at 12:13 AM

Silly kids.

You must enable the onboard one in the BIOS before it decides to output anything.


RE: dual monitors by Guido on 09-26-2005 at 12:42 AM

I just use both ports that my video card has, so haven't confirmed it, but while researching before getting a 2nd monitor I read several times that integrated AGP chips can't be used along with an additional video card. From what I've read your additional card is PCI though, not AGP, so no idea if the same applies. That's my guess, though, since Windows doesn't recognize your second monitor.

quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
Silly kids.
Silly ShawnZs.

You should treat people like people. If he makes a question, it's because he would love if someone solved him his problem, not for someone to make fun of him.

Grow up, k?
RE: RE: dual monitors by rav0 on 09-27-2005 at 12:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Guido
while researching before getting a 2nd monitor I read several times that integrated AGP chips can't be used along with an additional video card. From what I've read your additional card is PCI though, not AGP, so no idea if the same applies
Thst's what happens on my old computer. It has integrated graphics, and I have also installed a PCI graphics card (there is no AGP slot). In the BIOS setup, it lets me choose which to use, both isn't an option. The integrated graphics processor seems not to have its own RAM though, if I pick it, it asks me how much normal RAM to dedicate to graphics.