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How does the sponsor program help? by aC23 on 09-26-2005 at 01:04 AM
I was wondering...how does the sponsor program help Patchou? What is it that gives him money when you install it?
RE: How does the sponsor program help? by expert on 09-26-2005 at 01:06 AM
it installs a search bar on your internet browser and whenmever you use that search/toolbar it hhelps him out
RE: How does the sponsor program help? by prashker on 09-26-2005 at 01:10 AM
maybe Patchou could tell us how much he earned 
RE: How does the sponsor program help? by L. Coyote on 09-26-2005 at 01:13 AM
I believe it's when you click on the result links of that search...
I remember trying out a similar affiliate program (minus the toolbar). They pay for outgoing links, afaik.
But I could be wrong...
RE: RE: How does the sponsor program help? by aC23 on 09-26-2005 at 02:39 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Leo
I believe it's when you click on the result links of that search...
I remember trying out a similar affiliate program (minus the toolbar). They pay for outgoing links, afaik.
But I could be wrong...
so that means every result link i click on, patchou gets a certain amount of money?
That kinda sucks, since people who are willing to install the sponsor program won't necessarily use the search bar.
RE: RE: RE: How does the sponsor program help? by scapeg0at on 09-26-2005 at 05:42 AM
quote:Yeah, last i heard it was doing well, so who knows...
Originally posted by aC23
quote:
Originally posted by Leo
I believe it's when you click on the result links of that search...
I remember trying out a similar affiliate program (minus the toolbar). They pay for outgoing links, afaik.
But I could be wrong...
so that means every result link i click on, patchou gets a certain amount of money?
That kinda sucks, since people who are willing to install the sponsor program won't necessarily use the search bar.
RE: How does the sponsor program help? by Patchou on 09-26-2005 at 06:29 AM
It works like any other serious advertisement program (like Google's). I'm not paid by install but per use, like when people do a search with the sponsor's search bar. If somebody installs the sponsor but doesn't "use" it, I don't make a cent and that's why I have no interest installing it on people's computer who don't want it (I wish some people could understand that).
RE: RE: How does the sponsor program help? by Unknown... on 09-26-2005 at 03:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
It works like any other serious advertisement program (like Google's). I'm not paid by install but per use, like when people do a search with the sponsor's search bar. If somebody installs the sponsor but doesn't "use" it, I don't make a cent and that's why I have no interest installing it on people's computer who don't want it (I wish some people could understand that).
Hopefully it'll slowly sink in
I'm just curious; during install do you explain to people how you make money with the sponsor program? A lot of people know you have it there to make money, but don't understand how that's possible without something shady going on.
It's been a while since I re-installed so can't remember the layout, and regardless, I've heard the sponsor screen/install was redesigned in Plus! 3.60 (under 9 hours left people! 
). Just have to keep informing/educating people.RE: How does the sponsor program help? by qgroessl on 09-26-2005 at 03:20 PM
See... I'm all for helping Msg Plus!... The only reason I don't download the sponsor is because I would NEVER use it... I google or yahoo anything I need to search so it wouldn't really pay... I think spreading the use of it is all I can do for now!
RE: How does the sponsor program help? by user27089 on 09-26-2005 at 03:20 PM
I think Patchou has informed people a lot of times, unfortunately though, many people chose not to listen to the facts from Patchou himself and got their information from other sources, saying that Messenger Plus! had a trojan etc.
I'm sure that Patchou has endlessly been trying to get the facts to people, but for some reason, they don't listen, and probably will never listen, their trusted sources aren't always correct... Many of these people wouldn't even read it if it was in an installer anyway!!!
RE: How does the sponsor program help? by Anubis on 09-26-2005 at 03:49 PM
quote:If Anti-Spyware and Anti-Adware sources were accurate (as most can be) they would provide the real deal on the sponsor program.
Originally posted by traxor
and got their information from other sources, saying that Messenger Plus! had a trojan etc.
However many people just see one category as "Spyware and Adware" as programs that are dodgy as often isn't the case.
quote:tbh, if I was a less able computer user with no way to actually examine the sponsor program I may choose not to listen to Patchou and take an opinion from a third party.
Originally posted by traxor
Patchou has endlessly been trying to get the facts to people, but for some reason, they don't listen, and probably will never listen, their trusted sources aren't always correct
The simple reason is, if I had no way to actually look at the effects of the sponsor I would instantly assume that the creator was going to either be really nasty to complaints or lie and be dodgy, in that case I wouldn't take his opinion, and would get it from the supposedly "experts" in this kind of problem.
So the reason why many people don't trust Patchou is quite simple, its because he's the guy that put the sponsor program in Plus, and therefore people don't trust what he has to say. If it wasn't for actually looking at the sponsor program, being more computer able than many less able users and knowing Patchou's personality, I doubt I would want to take his opinion had I accidentally installed the sponsor.
It's totally understandable reason if you ask me, (for computer users of that level).
RE: How does the sponsor program help? by aC23 on 09-26-2005 at 04:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
It works like any other serious advertisement program (like Google's). I'm not paid by install but per use, like when people do a search with the sponsor's search bar. If somebody installs the sponsor but doesn't "use" it, I don't make a cent and that's why I have no interest installing it on people's computer who don't want it (I wish some people could understand that).
That's what I'm saying, most people won't bother with the search bar. I think it would be a good idea to team up with a sponsor that pays you per install..you'd be maximizing your profits this way.
quote:Perfect example ^^
See... I'm all for helping Msg Plus!... The only reason I don't download the sponsor is because I would NEVER use it... I google or yahoo anything I need to search so it wouldn't really pay... I think spreading the use of it is all I can do for now!
RE: How does the sponsor program help? by qgroessl on 09-26-2005 at 04:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by aC23
Perfect example ^^
I'm a perfect example! :woot:
quote:
Originally posted by aC23
That's what I'm saying, most people won't bother with the search bar. I think it would be a good idea to team up with a sponsor that pays you per install..you'd be maximizing your profits this way.
Agreed... the only problem with that for the sponsor would be people that have to reinstall and yeah
it'd be too hard to keep track of or whatever.
RE: How does the sponsor program help? by Patchou on 09-26-2005 at 05:53 PM
Ohh... believe me, you don't want me to do that. If an advertisement company pays you by install, you give them a free pass on your users' computers and they'll install as much stuff as possible to maximise their own benefits (including porn of course). Being paid by use lets me have some flexibility over what is installed and what is not and don't worry, I have nothing to complain about these days, a lot of people do use the search bar, as they do for other bars .
RE: How does the sponsor program help? by prashker on 09-26-2005 at 07:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by SonicSam
maybe Patchou could tell us how much he earned
eh if you could get PSP's and laptops mustof been alot
edit:
i quoted myself and answered
RE: How does the sponsor program help? by mwe99 on 09-26-2005 at 07:13 PM
however much he 'earns' is non of our business.
I would install the sponser but like someothers i wouldn't use it either, im so use to going to google or whatever. i don't like too much cos i think it clutters IE too
RE: How does the sponsor program help? by Negro_Joe on 09-26-2005 at 07:21 PM
i instaled that the first time...i was such a newb
Is it still gonna be there on the new version..?
RE: How does the sponsor program help? by mwe99 on 09-26-2005 at 07:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Negro_Joe
i was such a newbquote
no comment
lol
I believe Patchou had added some changes to the message you get prior to installation so yes, as far as I know it will still be there in Messenger Plus! 3.60
RE: How does the sponsor program help? by Negro_Joe on 09-26-2005 at 07:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mwe99
no comment
lol
I believe Patchou had added some changes to the message you get prior to installation so yes, as far as I know it will still be there in Messenger Plus! 3.60
im glad you didnt....
does this mean the its going to be you known made more obvious, like a big flashy warning and an 80 year old naked man....that would get my attention...
RE: How does the sponsor program help? by L. Coyote on 09-26-2005 at 07:26 PM
quote:Of course.
Originally posted by Negro_Joe
Is it still gonna be there on the new version..?
I dunno what changes were made to the installer, but I don't think flashing should be in there...
The point is not to scare off the users, but to let them know what they can install.Sometimes I install it and use it for a while... Not real searchs, of course, but visiting the sites is not that bad.
You dedicate a couple of minutes every other day for those searchs and it helps Patchou.
(unless you do it in an automated-like way and they don't pay him; the clicks must be "realistic", IIRC)And, yes, I agree with mwe, don't ask Patchou about how much he earns.
RE: How does the sponsor program help? by Negro_Joe on 09-26-2005 at 07:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Leo
The point is not to scare off the users, but to let them know what they can install.
i was joking, the point i was making was to make it more obvious because it can be easy to skip through thinking its a terms of agreement etc... thats what i though it was...though some poeple have got more sense then me..ok then most poeple...