I only saw it's for XP version... What about those who are opereating in older OS? T_T I been looking forward to it but *sigh* ME doesn't seems to be able to use 7.5...

sit tight, there are a couple of people working on making it 9x and 2k compatible. As far as I know TB mentioned this a while ago, i believe Ahmad might be working on it (wish that wtbw works on it, he's a god , ofcourse TB is too.). So there is still some hope.

ermmm... you can never make something 100% compatible for 9x/2k if it was specifically designed for NT or higher. Some stuff is simply not build in into older OS's.

Other than that, MS is gradually building down on their support for old OS's.

There was a version that worked on 2k that passed by mess.be... i'll go look to c if i can't find it.

http://www.mess.be/pafiledb/pafiledb.php?action=download&id=638

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Not to be mean or anything, but do yurselft a favor and get rid of ME

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Not to be mean or anything, but do yurselft a favor and get rid of ME

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Anyway that means ME won't get 7.5?

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Hopefully... thanks. Btw I love the new Msgplus

I think you should just accept the fact that MSNM 7.5 is for WinXP only. It calls upon functions in the OS that simply aren't there in other OS'es.

Looking at the amount of problems with MSNM 7.5 and all those updates i think you're better off with MSNM 7.0.0816 anyways. MSNM 7.5 seems far from finished.

It's not like MSNM 7.5 has so much more than 7.0, it's just some GUI stuff (looks) and voiceclips (wich you won't be able to use with contacts who use 7.0).

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Originally posted by Ahmad (creator of A Patch) - on the mess forums
By request.. MSN Messenger 7.5.0306 installer compatible for Windows 2000.

http://savefile.com/files3.php?fid=2407489

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Originally posted by Ahmad (creator of A Patch) - on the mess forums
By request.. MSN Messenger 7.5.0306 installer compatible for Windows 2000.

http://savefile.com/files3.php?fid=2407489

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I think, if I can recall correctly, one of the programers on the mess.be forums stated that the only thing that is xp-only in MSN Messenger 7.5 was the sound clips thing.

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ermmm... you can never make something 100% compatible for 9x/2k if it was specifically designed for NT or higher. Some stuff is simply not build in into older OS's.

Other than that, MS is gradually building down on their support for old OS's.

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(wich i don't think is the case here)

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If anyone cares .... i would just like to add that i heard somewhere that microsoft confirmed the fact that they are gonna release another special pack (viz SP 3) soon

dang thats a pitty

how can I make localized version compatible with win2k?

This is proof that MSN is listening to its users. Ever since the 7th generation of MSN Messenger, we've been complaining about filesize. With the release of 7.5, the filesize can, theoretically, be decreased thanks to the drop of support for older Operating Systems. Yes, I find it funny too that, the current setup's filesize is bigger than any previous release - especially since they've REMOVED a number of components (ie. older Operating System installers)...I'm confused as to why it is LARGER. Still, I've been told that this is for the best and from here on out, there's a big possibility that installers will be smaller. This was stated on a number of *unofficial* MSN Messenger news sites.

Don't forget the major improvement in the updating system MSN Messenger uses. Instead of you having to download the whole setup again, you merely have to download the patch. What used to take 20 or so minutes (for me at least), now takes a few seconds to update MSN Messenger.

I think what MSN is doing is right. Besides, it's time for those using older Operating Systems to get with the program. People always complain about security, but I never see them updating. They're still using ancient versions of Operating Systems that aren't recieving any security patches or updates of any kind, officially. It's not surprise that the general mentality is Windows is overly insecure. No one updates it. I've been to a number of my friends' houses and each of their computers is not even on SP1. Never mind that, they aren't even up-to-date with pre-SP1 updates... It really saddens me and I'm glad Microsoft is finally forcing everyone to move ahead.

I agree with you Evil but at work we use win2k on all clients and my bosses are not going to update them to xp because of licenses pricing

True Seph..

But I just dont get all these people complaining that 7.5 is only for XP. MSN still has versions compatible with 9x and 2k available on their website.

Messenger 7.5 is not much different to 7.0, just a couple of extra features, and even though I modified the installer to work on 2k, the voice clips feature doesn't work. Even with that problem, people are still happy because now the About box says 7.5.

So, what I suggest for 9x/2k users is that they reshack the version number of their current Messenger, that should make them happy! It sounds silly doesn't it? Because it is...

New developments!

The Voice Clip feature will not work on Windows 2000 if you have not run the Audio Tuning Wizard (Audio and Video Setup) first.

I installed 7.0.0816 and went through the wizard and completed it. Then I installed 7.5.0306 (with the modified installer) and was then able to successfully use the Voice Clip feature!

Have fun!

Well not everyone are capable of getting a darn new OS disc to install on their computer. Or some people computer isn't really good for upgrading to XP.

It's not like those "ancients" doesn't want to upgrade. I, too, hope to upgrade my OS to newer version. But the fact is my family is too poor to affort just the CD or a new computer (I really need new computer now since this one is starting to dies. Not even worth to fix or upgrade the graphic card or whatever it is inside)

I know microsoft is pushing people to get newer OS. I'm not like others who you guys said that doesn't really give a damn to go Window Update. I do that offen but not now since lol you guys know Window ME doesn't have anything to update.

lol msn 7.5 looks like far from complete. I'm not trying to start a fight here. I just say how some "ancients" like me felt about moving on to newer OS and etc...

Guide: Installing MSN Messenger 7.5 in Windows 2000

Download the exe installer file for MSN Messenger 7.5.
Open the file in a programme such as Winrar and extract MsnMsgs.msi file.

Start up your favourite Hex editor and change the value below:

Offset:      155C0
Original:  31
Patched:  30

Then save the file. You will now be able to install this on windows 2000.

that's how ahmad done it and i'm sure it's possible for other os' too just need to change some things and have that os to test it

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Originally posted by Absorbation
Guide: Installing MSN Messenger 7.5 in Windows 2000

Download the exe installer file for MSN Messenger 7.5.
Open the file in a programme such as Winrar and extract MsnMsgs.msi file.

Start up your favourite Hex editor and change the value below:

Offset:      155C0
Original:  31
Patched:  30

Then save the file. You will now be able to install this on windows 2000.

that's how ahmad done it and i'm sure it's possible for other os' too just need to change some things and have that os to test it

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Cookie, may I ask what exactly does makes MSN Messenger not run on anything besides XP? I mean, like features, what things in the protocol, ect?

It isn't a matter of running or not. It's more a matter of running 100% correctly.

I'm no programmer of MSN Messenger, but I do know that in general many API's and other programming stuff depend on the OS it was designed for. eg: many API's do not function on other OS's or are simply stubs or behave a tick differently. This means you wont get an error, but the function wont do anything either or output something slightly different. This goes for many stuff (the very much used LoadImage and LoadIcon API's are a perfect example of that; if used in a certain way they behave a very small bit differently on different OS's, so small you wont notice at first, but in the end can cause serious errors).

If a program _seems_ to be running on another OS, it doesn't mean it works perfectly 100% without any glitch. Glitches can even be very small, so small you wont notice at first or only notice in certain circumstances.

If MS desided 7.5 is XP only, then there are perfect reasons for that. They do not limit a program to a certain OS just for the fun of it. And they also do no limit something to XP, while it would perfectly run on another OS, just because they want people to upgrade their OS, that's also nonsense.

Instead of asking me how do I know it wont run perfectly on anything other than XP, the question should be how do those other people know it _does_ run on another OS... Do those people magically know the exact code of MSN Messenger? Do they have the source? No... You'll find that those people wouldn't be able to provide a perfectly solid technical explaination for it; they have no proof what-so-ever; they're just guessing (or repeating what others say); they just _think_ it runs perfectly because in their eyes and for what they "tested" and for what it's worth, it _seems_ to run...