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Ms-dos by Jhrono on 10-29-2005 at 11:56 AM

Hi, i have a problem, i dont know how to acess ms dos in windows xp...and i dont mean the command line..Thanks for your help .

RE: Ms-dos by Dempsey on 10-29-2005 at 11:57 AM

Windows XP doesn't actually have MS-DOS it just emulates it with the command line.

RE: Ms-dos by Hank on 10-29-2005 at 11:59 AM

to get to MS-DOS you need to Boot from XP CD, an go to a DOS Command Prompt

RE: Ms-dos by DragonX on 10-29-2005 at 12:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Animal
to get to MS-DOS you need to Boot from XP CD, an go to a DOS Command Prompt

But even with that, is it stil a native DOS OS or it it still just an emulation of it ?

RE: Ms-dos by Hank on 10-29-2005 at 12:41 PM

it is a DOS-OS

RE: Ms-dos by DragonX on 10-29-2005 at 12:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Animal
it is a DOS-OS

Ah cool, i didn't know that, i thought i was just an emulated DOS.

Thx Animal

RE: Ms-dos by Hank on 10-29-2005 at 12:55 PM

No Problemo

RE: RE: Ms-dos by Anubis on 10-29-2005 at 01:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Animal
it is a DOS-OS

No it is not, Windows XP does not contain DOS

quote:
Originally posted by Animal

to get to MS-DOS you need to Boot from XP CD, an go to a DOS Command Prompt

It is not actually a DOS Operating System.

RE: Ms-dos by Reaper on 10-29-2005 at 01:03 PM

is there much difference between DOS itself and the emulated version(s)

RE: Ms-dos by Hank on 10-29-2005 at 01:06 PM

there is..you got moree control in DOS itself than the emulator one

RE: Ms-dos by DragonX on 10-29-2005 at 01:09 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Anubis
No it is not, Windows XP does not contain DOS

I was lied to - Nah i'm just kiddin

But there musn't be many differences between a native DOS and an XP DOS.

RE: Ms-dos by Hank on 10-29-2005 at 01:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Anubis
No it is not, Windows XP does not contain DOS

i didnt say Windows Contained it, , i said you can BOOT from XP CD to get to a DOS Command Prompt

RE: Ms-dos by surfichris on 10-29-2005 at 01:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Animal
i didnt say Windows Contained it, , i said you can BOOT from XP CD to get to a DOS Command Prompt

What you're talking about is the recovery console I guess? It's not a DOS prompt at all.

Afaik, and I have been working with XP for a while now on ~300 machines, there is no way to get to a DOS prompt via the CD or Windows quite simply because it is built on the 'NT' technology and has it's own kernel drivers as opposed to Windows 98.

RE: Ms-dos by CookieRevised on 10-29-2005 at 01:30 PM

The latest true native MSDOS version was 6.22 (or for some localized versions 6.23)...

Since then there is never been a native stand alone MSDOS version anymore.

MSDOS 7.0 and higher is an integrated part of Windows 98 and higher (except for the NT based versions). Windows doesn't "emulate" DOS, it runs DOS as a process like any other program in Windows.

Booting up in DOS is something different. But even when you boot up in these new DOS versions (eg, like you could boot up in DOS with Windows 98), a part of Windows will always be loaded!

To have a true native DOS version running (eg :MSDOS 6.22) you need to create a dedicated FAT32 bootable partitition with its own(!) DOS bootrecord (not a windows bootrecord) and install MSDOS 6.22 (or lower) on that.

The MSDOS versions 7.0 and higher include more commands than the native MSDOS 6.22 (and lower) versions. They also include more control, not less. Some commands have new parameters and the possebilities are much much higher. The batch language has also much more possebilities and is much closer to a real programming language. But many problems can arise when you run a true native DOS program in these new DOS versions. There are many differences between the two.

As for the Windows NT architecture, DOS isn't included anymore as part of Windows, but it is a program like any other program so to speak and it controls the console window. It isn't a real standalone OS anymore. In a way this DOS console could be called a MSDOS "emulator", although this isn't entirly correct though.

RE: Ms-dos by Gonçalo F. on 10-29-2005 at 01:54 PM

you can boot with a win98/me disk (or cd) and access your winxp drive if it isn't in ntfs. if it is in ntfs, the best you can do with that disk is use fdisk to work on the partitions.

RE: Ms-dos by ShawnZ on 10-29-2005 at 02:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Gonçalo F.
you can boot with a win98/me disk (or cd) and access your winxp drive if it isn't in ntfs. if it is in ntfs, the best you can do with that disk is use fdisk to work on the partitions.

http://www.wsdownload.de/download/ntfs4dos/ntfsinst.exe

RE: Ms-dos by Supersonicdarky on 10-29-2005 at 06:41 PM

why do people say dos-os? it's Document Operation System, no need for an addition OS at the end

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RE: Ms-dos by Eljay on 10-29-2005 at 06:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Supersonicdarky
Document Operation System

*Disk Operating System

RE: Ms-dos by Supersonicdarky on 10-29-2005 at 06:53 PM

i was close