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Paris Riots by saralk on 11-06-2005 at 06:15 PM
The Paris riots, they are quite scary. I have to admit, it all started because of a misunderstanding between French Police and French Muslims (which is my understanding) but imo represents an underlying social problem.
Do you think these riots could spread around the world and are we on the road to recedevism?
RE: Paris Riots by Millenium_edition on 11-06-2005 at 07:08 PM
i sure hope not. if there's one target city which is guaranteed to get trashed because of that, it's brussels. RIGHT where I live.
and that would suck, now wouldn't it?
also, does anyone have a clear explanation of the reason why it all started? i'm not sure, but i think that what sarkozy said ("scum") has started all of this.
RE: Paris Riots by saralk on 11-06-2005 at 07:25 PM
10 kids were playing football, when police officers arrived to do Immigration-ID Checks, the youths ran away, because otherwise they would spend hours in a police station. They went to hide in a electrical transformer place or something (something with electricity) and three of them got electrecuted and two died, the third apparantly got amnesia and can't remember the incident at all.
That is the direct cause, but I think it was just the straw that broke the camels back to a much larger social problem which all western countries face
RE: Paris Riots by lordy on 11-06-2005 at 08:48 PM
this is dodgy, I havent followed it closely, but its been going on for more than a week now hasnt it? like 10 days or something like that
RE: Paris Riots by Apatik on 11-06-2005 at 11:53 PM
The guys that died electrocuted weren't chased by the police, they just THOUGHT they were.
I live in Paris and I (and I think I'm not the only one to) don't fear or anything, until they put my car on fire of course 
(but I don't have a car so...). We don't even really bother actually. Even if the news is soo spectacular.
Winter is coming, in a day or two it'll be as if nothing has happened (except the numerous burned schools and other casualties, woohoo...).
I'm not denying that there is a problem with the french policy concerning social integration, but I've lived long enough in "hot districts" to be quite sure that the vast majority of the rioters are doing this for fun (yeah, i mean it, for fun) and pride more than for revendicating anything (except their stupidity).
Anyway, let's just slay 'em all.
Edit : yeah, last night was the #10 I think... 1300 cars burned in one night, last record 
BTW, the riots are (supposed to) taking place in the suburbs more than in Paris itself. But that may not be true for the other french cities.
RE: Paris Riots by emit on 11-07-2005 at 10:38 AM
They're just like any other racial riot really (not that racial riots should be the norm). In this country: Leeds, Birmingham have both experienced them. Crimes against property are wholly different to crimes against persons; if the riots in Paris turn into groups of people looking to kill Muslims or so then it would become a serious issue. Even so, 1300 cars in one night? Where the fuck were the French police? They need stopping, as this will just fuel the racial tensions that exist not only in Paris but in any ethnically diverse city.
RE: Paris Riots by Mentality on 11-07-2005 at 10:57 AM
Oh Dear!!! Seriously Scary Stuff!!!
RE: Paris Riots by Kryptonate on 11-07-2005 at 11:52 AM
Last night there were also problems (the police doesn't want to talk about riots yet) in Brussels (5 cars were burned) and in Antwerp.
In Paris 34 police officers were injured, 1408 cars were burned and 395 people got arrested. And that's only one night. In total there are about 5000 cars burned and 1200 people got arrested in 11 days.
RE: Paris Riots by Juvani_D on 11-07-2005 at 11:57 AM
Yes, maybe it has somthin to do with kisunderstanding among involved parties but thre's also underlying social problem that contributed on this event.
RE: Paris Riots by saralk on 11-07-2005 at 08:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Time
They're just like any other racial riot really (not that racial riots should be the norm). In this country: Leeds, Birmingham have both experienced them. Crimes against property are wholly different to crimes against persons; if the riots in Paris turn into groups of people looking to kill Muslims or so then it would become a serious issue. Even so, 1300 cars in one night? Where the fuck were the French police? They need stopping, as this will just fuel the racial tensions that exist not only in Paris but in any ethnically diverse city.
The thing is, most race riots don't last so long, and most race riots don't spread accross the country
RE: Paris Riots by Apatik on 11-07-2005 at 11:38 PM
quote:so true.
Originally posted by Time
They need stopping, as this will just fuel the racial tensions that exist not only in Paris but in any ethnically diverse city.
RE: Paris Riots by Jhrono on 11-08-2005 at 02:13 PM
Deport the rioters and stop buying oil.
Things are way simple.
RE: Paris Riots by Plik on 11-08-2005 at 02:21 PM
quote:Oh how i would love to see you run a country
Originally posted by Johny
Deport the rioters and stop buying oil.
Things are way simple.
Deporting the rioters would just fuel more violance.
And stop buying oil, thats the stupidest things i've heard in a while! What has oil got todo with this? and if they stoped buying oil the whole nation would fall apart because their would be no transport, plastics or any other of the million oil baised things.
RE: Paris Riots by Omar on 11-08-2005 at 02:26 PM
quote:Agreed, this fucking has to stop... It is time to bring back a french institution... the guillotine.
Originally posted by Apatik
Anyway, let's just slay 'em all.
And i really mean that... racial tensions are not an excuse to destroy other people's property... ¬_¬
quote:To be honest, nobody forced those guys to come to France or Belguim or those countries... They can always go back home...
Originally posted by Madman
quote:Oh how i would love to see you run a country
Originally posted by Johny
Deport the rioters
Things are way simple.
RE: Paris Riots by John Anderton on 11-08-2005 at 03:24 PM
I didnt even know about this till i saw this thread ![[Image: msn_disappointed.gif]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/smilies/msn_disappointed.gif)
I sure hope they dont spread ![[Image: xso_undecided.gif]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/smilies/xso_undecided.gif)
All this sux tbh.
![[Image: msn_note.gif]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/smilies/msn_note.gif)
Black Eyed Peas - Where is the love
quote:They do last quite long (unless you think a week isnt too long) and can be reaaallyyy aweful. The worst kind We have had a few here and i have heard about one when i was about 6. The last one that i remember was about 3 - 4 years back. Even though my life was normal, i could so easily see that for others in the affected areas, this wasnt the case.
Originally posted by saralk
The thing is, most race riots don't last so long, and most race riots don't spread accross the country
Imho that song that i mentioned totally captures everything about all these things that have been happening in the past few years (not the natural ones like the tsunami but the man made ones)
RE: Paris Riots by Jhrono on 11-08-2005 at 05:07 PM
quote:I'd love to see me running a country, it'd be the best in the world.
Originally posted by Madman
quote:Oh how i would love to see you run a country
Originally posted by Johny
Deport the rioters and stop buying oil.
Things are way simple.
Deporting the rioters would just fuel more violance.
And stop buying oil, thats the stupidest things i've heard in a while! What has oil got todo with this? and if they stoped buying oil the whole nation would fall apart because their would be no transport, plastics or any other of the million oil baised things.
Then, if they dont like the way they are treated, just get the fuck out, and go back to their land.
And oil?
Why do you notice middle east, arabian, magrebian, northern african countrys so much ? Terrorism ? Wars ? Naaah, just the weastern world giving them money with Oil that gives them enough power to develop such crisis all over the world..
I definitly think European / American brands should invest in new "fuels" investigation( maybe risk 80% of their capital ) but a new fuel that ISNT (mainly) explored by middle eastern countrys, so they couldnt 'monopolized' us as they do, and did, quotting ben laden, who said he wanted to raise the oil price.. Why did he say that ? Woopie Fucking Duh so they get more money, even more money each day.
RE: Paris Riots by Negro_Joe on 11-08-2005 at 05:11 PM
alot of conflicts have been caused by conflicting relgions, or something to do with religion. Religion ahs been invloved, WW2 is a good example...im not against religion just against the fact some poeple will use it as an excuse to fight...
the crusades another example...
RE: Paris Riots by user27089 on 11-08-2005 at 05:17 PM
I agree with Joe, useing your religion as an excuse for violence is completely immoral, I bet you any money that a lot of those rioting are in it because they enjoy the violence and not for the true cause... This could've easily been resolved during a peaceful procest, rather than violence...
RE: Paris Riots by Negro_Joe on 11-08-2005 at 05:25 PM
umm i dont think a peaceful protest would have done much at all, it would have just turned violent, its happened enough times before...
RE: Paris Riots by Exca on 11-08-2005 at 05:45 PM
It comes to belgium here too... 5 cars burned in Brussels, 1 in Lokeren and more will follow. It's only a little bit in comparisation but still this means something and also here it would be able to begin... (it were migrants who did it)
RE: Paris Riots by Jhrono on 11-08-2005 at 05:51 PM
quote:Yep i know about the crusades, it's ALMOST, the same, but it has certain diferences..
Originally posted by Negro_Joe
alot of conflicts have been caused by conflicting relgions, or something to do with religion. Religion ahs been invloved, WW2 is a good example...im not against religion just against the fact some poeple will use it as an excuse to fight...
the crusades another example...
quote:Yep, bin laden doesnt give a shit about religion, yet, he interpretates it in a way that make people die to get more women in Paradise
Originally posted by traxor
I agree with Joe, useing your religion as an excuse for violence is completely immoral, I bet you any money that a lot of those rioting are in it because they enjoy the violence and not for the true cause... This could've easily been resolved during a peaceful procest, rather than violence...
