I received this e-mail from Microsoft today:

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Hello!

We'd like you to be among the first to try a new beta version of Messenger.

If you use MSN® Messenger now, we think you're really going to enjoy Windows LiveTM Messenger. It's as fun and reliable as the Messenger you already know, and you won't lose your contact list or any other personal information when you try this new version.

Some of the new stuff it will let you do:

    * Use Windows Live call to sign-up for MCI Web Calling to get incredibly low rates on calls to phones across the country or around the world
    * Drop documents into special folders that you and your contact can access even when one of you is off-line

      Join Now     

Join Now
Please keep in mind that since this is a beta, some features are still in progress. And that we need your feedback if there's anything that doesn't seem to working right, or that you would like to see done differently.

And in case you were wondering about the new name, Windows Live Messenger is part of a new family of services from Microsoft® that includes Windows Live Mail (now a simpler, safer, faster mail), and Live.com (a new personalized homepage experience), to name just a few.

Thanks, and we hope to hear from you soon.

The Windows Live Messenger team

Get Windows Live Messenger alerts! Receive notifications about Messenger and learn about opportunities to provide your feedback. Sign up now!

You are receiving this message from Microsoft because you are a preferred Microsoft customer.

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i got the same email today ...but it was from someone inviting me...check the email of the sender...if it isnt from microsoft then someone invited you.

My mail program says " Van:  Windows Live Beta <msnbetax@microsoft.com>".
Translated: "From: Windows Live Beta <msnbetax@microsoft.com>".

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Originally posted by Itsme-HcK
My mail program says " Van:  Windows Live Beta <msnbetax@microsoft.com>".
Translated: "From: Windows Live Beta <msnbetax@microsoft.com>".

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I was already a tester and got this, so I have a question. Were you by anychance in the Beta Chat yesterday?

i was

it was fun

[sarcastic]irc is pathetic compared to it [/sarcastic]

it was the worst chat ever, no real questions were ever answered, they were all evaded with the standard respon "Thank you for your suggestion, we will look into it".

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Thread-Topic: Download the Windows Live Messenger Beta
From: "Windows Live Beta" <msnbetax@microsoft.com>

The header should look something like that if it's offical.

yes it does, and mine was given to the theunknown.

For what I can see of it (it's hidden, mostly), it's the same.
The Messenger I downloaded also works.

[later]
I copied the URL's it directed me to:

That sure looks like Microsoft. (All those tokens, for the suckers who don't understand.)

Like i said in the other topic:

Accept it and log into http://ideas.live.com/mainpage.aspx

It will say...

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Welcome, <NAME>
Thanks a lot for being part of Windows Live Ideas. You're a member of following invitation only beta(s):

• Windows Live™ Messenger beta

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Mine says "exclusive", but still, how did I get it?

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Originally posted by Itsme-HcK
Mine says "exclusive", but still, how did I get it?

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You don't get my question, do you?
Let's put it this way: Why did I receive a( n) (invite) mail to join the bètatesters? Why me? I didn't apply somewhere, and I didn't ask someone for an invite...

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Originally posted by Itsme-HcK
You don't get my question, do you?

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Originally posted by Itsme-HcK
Let's put it this way: Why did I receive a( n) (invite) mail to join the bètatesters? Why me? I didn't apply somewhere, and I didn't ask someone for an invite...

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edit: @ipab: oops corrected

seems like my theory doesn't hold, many other people who were in the beta chat yesterday didn't get an invite like me. Perhaps it might have been a random selection out of the beta chat members.

offtopic:
cookie its ipab

wait, so non-beta testers could join a beta chat? which chat would that be?

no, probably a beta tester gave them the link to the chat and the password to get into it.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
- Someone send you an invite
- You are already part of some other (beta) program
- You have been in contact with MSN before (bug report, (beta) chat, whatever)
- A mixup has occured
- Microsoft feels you're very special

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Originally posted by ShawnZ
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From: "Windows Live Beta" <msnbetax@microsoft.com>

The header should look something like that if it's offical.

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Originally posted by Invitation Email
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Thread-Topic: Join the Windows Live Messenger beta
From: "Wndows Live Beta" <msnbetax@microsoft.com>
To: <my email address>
Subject: Join the Windows Live Messenger beta
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I think you were invited by MS

When you are invited the subject is:
Check out Windows Live Messenger
And the "From:" part is the email of the person inviting you.

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Originally posted by email
From: "Wndows Live Beta" <msnbetax@microsoft.com>

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Originally posted by hmaster
I think you were invited by MS

When you are invited the subject is:
Check out Windows Live Messenger
And the "From:" part is the email of the person inviting you.

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Originally posted by email
From: "Wndows Live Beta" <msnbetax@microsoft.com>

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spelling mistake

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Originally posted by hmaster
I think you were invited by MS

When you are invited the subject is:........

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Originally posted by Itsme-HcK
My mail program says " Van:  Windows Live Beta <msnbetax@microsoft.com>".
Translated: "From: Windows Live Beta <msnbetax@microsoft.com>".

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Originally posted by Itsme-HcK

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
- Someone send you an invite
- You are already part of some other (beta) program
- You have been in contact with MSN before (bug report, (beta) chat, whatever)
- A mixup has occured
- Microsoft feels you're very special

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It can only be the first (Someone send you an invite) or the last (Microsoft feels you're very special), since I didn't join a beta program and I didn't contact MSN.
Let's hope for the last then.

Btw, I wasn't in the beta chat.

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Originally posted by Primexx
wait, so non-beta testers could join a beta chat? which chat would that be?

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Originally posted by Salem

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Originally posted by Itsme-HcK
My mail program says " Van:  Windows Live Beta <msnbetax@microsoft.com>".
Translated: "From: Windows Live Beta <msnbetax@microsoft.com>".

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That means Microsoft has invited you, not someone else

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When I sent a invite to somebody the mail looked like this:

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Don't make it a habit I don't have any more invites for people I don't know personally now.

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Hello!

We'd like you to be among the first to try the beta version of Windows LiveTM Messenger.

If you use MSN® Messenger now, we think you're really going to enjoy Windows Live Messenger. It's as fun and reliable as the Messenger you already know, and you won't lose your contact list or any other personal information when you try this new version. Check it out to experience new ways to connect to your friends via text, voice, video, and more.

<Download now>

And in case you were wondering about the name change, Windows Live Messenger is part of a new family of services from Microsoft® that includes Windows Live Mail (now a simpler, safer, faster mail), and Live.com (a new personalized homepage experience), to name just a few.

Thanks,

The Windows Live Messenger team

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

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Originally posted by Salem

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Originally posted by Itsme-HcK
My mail program says " Van:  Windows Live Beta <msnbetax@microsoft.com>".
Translated: "From: Windows Live Beta <msnbetax@microsoft.com>".

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That means Microsoft has invited you, not someone else

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To put it very bluntly: that means jack-sh*t. Those fields can easly be spoofed. Never judge the authenticity of an email on the sender's email address!

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